Talk:The Long and Winding Road

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[edit] This page can crash Mozilla

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[edit] Article content location

Suggest including this on the Beatles page or on a Beatles miscleaneous topics page.

There are a bunch of articles about Beatles songs...they should probably go on their respective albums' articles though. Adam Bishop 05:53, 6 Oct 2003 (UTC)

I don't see a problem with well-done articles on particular, notable songs; care needs to be taken not to repeat too much of the information already present in the album or artist listing, though. Jgm 15:44, 7 Oct 2003 (UTC)

This is a very good article, and I also see nothing wrong with articles on important and well-known songs, but this article, in my opinion, goes well beyond the scope of the song "The Long and Winding Road". Perhaps the information not directly related to the song could go on a separate breakup of the Beatles page? I'm sure a lot of other information could be added to such a page. Or else make a clear "Breakup" section in the History of the Beatles article, and transfer some of this information there? -R. fiend 16:07, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I've done an edit with R.'s comments in mind; specifically I've tried to limit the material to the song, with just enough framing info for context. Much of what I cut out would be a valuable addition to the Let It Be article, I think, or, as R. suggests, the History of the Beatles article. I've also made some general structure and wording changes and copy edits and added some material from a primary source (Lewishon's book). There are still some awkward bits (ie. the explanation of the difference between the Billboard and Cashbox charts) that could use fixing.

To quote: "McCartney claimed that his longstanding dissatisfaction with the released version of "The Long and Winding Road" (and the entire Let It Be album) was the catalyst for his decision." But isn't a catalyst something that speeds a process up? How can longstanding dissatisfaction, thirty years or so, be a catalyst? Brendanfox 04:07, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Break up reasons

What were the other five reasons he cited in court to break up the Beatles? -Rwv37 05:38, Jan 16, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] OnStar commercial

This is kinda old, so it'll be a bit hard to verify, but I believe that an instrumental version was the background music for an OnStar commercial a few months ago ("few" is used loosely, as I don't know exactly when it was). It was the commercial where there were a whole bunch of kids (separately) telling about their various experiences with OnStar and how it saved their family members, etc. Can anyone confirm or deny this? Does anyone even know what commercial I'm talking about? —Gordon P. Hemsley→✉ 09:25, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] linking to copyvio

I have again removed external links from this article to material in violation of copyright, per #5 under the "Links to be used occasionally" section at Wikipedia:External links. Performances and transcriptions of lyrics are protected by copyright. Unless the owner of the copyright has placed the material on the web themselves, or approved its publication on some unofficial website, it should not be linked from Wikipedia. -- Mikeblas 02:20, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Link rot

some of the citations are suffering from link rot, being new to wikia I did not continue further <notably reference 8> 75.15.195.164 20:38, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Anthology 3 and Let It Be… Naked

The version on Anthology 3 is the same take which received Spector's overdubs, whereas the Let It Be Naked version is a different take, previously unreleased. This information is correctly stated on the Let It Be… Naked page. Sonitus 04:13, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Authority does not equal quality

The following quote - and the article it is quoted from - is a prime reason why "quoting authorities" is simply not good enough to create a viable reference.

>The song takes the form of a piano-based ballad, with an unconventional structure and some of the most inventive and sophisticated chord changes heard in The Beatles' catalogue. The song's home key is in E-flat major but spends ample time in its relative minor, the key of C minor.[2]

To put it crudely, it's wack BS. The "unconventional structure" is Verse/Verse/Bridge/Verse/Repeat last verse.

The "sophisticated chord changes" are purely diatonic, with a couple of dominant seventh chords and a single altered bass (Ab chord over Bb bass), in one key. The only "relative minor" in the song is the first phrase of each verse, which is sung over a minor chord. Only in the most strict interpretation of a small part of the classical music tradition does a single minor chord define a minor tonality.

The rest of the "Let It Be" album is heavily influence by the Beatles early rock influences, so in the context of the album, it sounds sophisticated, but compared to the songwriting on Abbey Road, the White Album, - anything post-LSD, to be blunt - it is a simple, straightforward song. No key changes, no altered notes, no "jazz" chords, nothing special except Paul McCartney's ability to deploy such simple materials in an elegant, appropriate fashion.

Perhaps I'm not sufficiently bowing down to Pollack's authority, but his article in general reminds me of A.J. Weberman's obsessive projection into Dylan's music, more so than mainstream musical analysis.

24.17.180.126 09:28, 27 February 2007 (UTC)