Talk:The Jim Rome Show

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Contents 1 Little League coaches 2 Death of Smack-Off articles 3 Future of the show 4 Alvin's Mix 5 Should my note on the Devil Rays 6 Interviews 7 Mundane show history 8 Seperate page for nicknames? 9 Canada stuff 10 Grouping of takes 11 Summary Style tag 12 Show Personnel 13 Bill Hunter vs. Billy Hunter 14 live from southern california? 15 Travis Rodgers list 16 Nicknames 17 Vandalism? 18 The last edit to the "tongue" entry 19 One last try to break up the article 20 Smarty Jones did not win the triple crown 21 Show Location 22 Dusty Baker 23 Horseradish (sound drop) 24 Name change

[edit] Little League coaches

Is the take that coaches who don't have kids are creepy, or coaches who don't have their own kids on the team or creepy, or a mix of the two? I can't remember.

Also, I've archived the talk topics from the first half of the year, so if there's anything you want to discuss in those topics, that's where they are. Willbyr (talk | contribs) 22:02, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

• I seem to remember it being coaches who didn't have kids. (at all). Makes sense to me because while just about every little league coach has their kids playing ball somewhere, sometimes they don't get to be on the same team, etc. Dunno...but I think it's the simpler. Either way it gets the point across. Doctorindy 22:19, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Death of Smack-Off articles

Thought I'd post the link to the AfD for the individual Smack-Off articles for reference. The Wikilinks to the individual contents will need to be edited out of this article. Willbyr (talk | contribs) 19:53, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

The Smack-Off article has also been AfD'd, so I encourage anyone who contributes to this article to oppose the AfD. Willbyr (talk | contribs) 16:18, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

UPDATE - The Smack-Off article will be staying around, per the AfD discussion. Willbyr (talk | contribs) 22:29, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Future of the show

With the news of Rome's new contract with Premiere, should the middle paragraph be removed, or just edited down? Willbyr (talk | contribs) 16:36, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Alvin's Mix

If someone has time and a recording of the mix I think it'd be great to get a rundown of what's actually in the mix.

Agreed. Don't forget to sign your posts. Willbyr (talk | contribs) 22:28, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

• • It sure is long though. A small handfull of them are hard to figure out at first, but it should be fairly easy, the vast majority of them are in this list. Doctorindy 17:11, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
  • My question is, what's the "Chew it! Chew it!" I don't think I've heard that soundbite before. Willbyr (talk | contribs) 20:18, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

The Chew it line was from a show long back when Rome was reading the sponsors and he came across Extra gum. J-Stew then yelled Chew it. It's in the article. Soxrock 16:33, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

It was from the segment with the SR4TI crew and the "Dont Forget about Mark Mulder" line. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Steponice (talk • contribs).

I think it would be too hard to try to nail it down, as of early November because it has gotten so long (Rome said over three minutes), and since Alvin is constantly adding more, it'll get longer and longer. It's great, though.--The Saxon 01:50, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Should my note on the Devil Rays

Be kept? I've heard him refer to them as the Tarpons for some time now. Soxrock 17:28, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Honestly, no. If there's a section of the article that needs a trim, it's the list of nicknames. Rome uses all of them, but listing so many of the more obscure nicknames is just clogging up the article. I say, cut the list down to the most frequently used and "classic" nicknames. Willbyr (talk | contribs) 18:20, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Interviews

Can someone add something about the Joe Montana phone interview when he misunderstood Rome's question whether the NFL has had too many "black eyes"? Montana was at a hotel pool in Hawaii and couldn't hear the question well. 165.189.91.148 19:24, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Could someone add Mark Grace to the list of interviews. I am very surprised that he has not been included with such memorable quotations such as "slump busters" and Maddux, "you love to pitch; don't you?"

[edit] Mundane show history

The article needs more mundane history about the show. When did it first air? The show is now 3 hours, but prior to that it was 4. Originally I think it may have been even longer. If anyone can add these dates and details that would be good. There's no mention of the "Scrub Saturday" show in the article, and it comes up in the Jungle often. 165.189.91.148 19:39, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

This is a very good suggestion; I know some of the information could be copied from Rome's article into this one, and other info could be gathered from Stucknut. Willbyr (talk | contribs) 17:45, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

• • During the 8/1/06 show, Rome did mention it a little. A caller said that he had gone to one of the events. The Scrub Saturday referred to 1990, when he had a show on Saturday mornings, and apparently he would broadcast the show from Lenny Dykstra's car wash. They'd have various visitors and sports guests stop by and be part of the show. Steve Garvey was apparently one of them according to the caller. Doctorindy 13:41, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
  • I added a little bit about the beginning of the show, but it needs more. Willbyr (talk | contribs) 16:26, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Seperate page for nicknames?

• In accordance with other similair show pages, there could be consideration to create a sub page for the nicknames on the show, since that section is taking on a life of its own, and it actually has somewhat of a life of it's own, . Perhaps List of nicknames used on The Jim Rome Show could be created, as it seems to fall in accordance with the "list" philosophy of Wiki, and would very likely survive elimination requests. Doctorindy 15:42, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm really torn on this. Your idea could work for just about all of the lists in this article; they could all be removed and placed in one article, say, "Content in The Jim Rome Show" or something like that, which would probably cut the article size by at least 75%. On the other hand, considering that the Smack-Off article was AfD'd, I'm hesitant to support the list article idea 100%. A lot of the listed stuff in the article, especially in the nicknames and Classic Bits sections, is fairly obscure and would really only be relevant on a fansite dedicated to Rome, which means it could be removed outright from this article and not hurt it at all. I tend to lean toward this option, but if you want to try the list idea out go for it; we can always revert if it doesn't flow well. Willbyr (talk | contribs) 17:54, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Canada stuff

The e-mail section could use a list of common things that Canada gets pinged about. I can remember "oot," "aboot", backbacon, salmon, and moose, but I can't remember any of the people that usually get mentioned. Anyone? Willbyr (talk | contribs) 16:30, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Grouping of takes

In order to prevent the "classic takes" section from apprearing too long, I tried grouping the takes into Sports/People/Games/TV, etc. so that they flow better. It also makes the section not look as bulky as it did. Also merged the vacation blurb with the guest host section...the vacation blurb really wasn't a "take," it was more of just a general show fact. Doctorindy 16:17, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Nice job, it does look better. Willbyr (talk | contribs) 16:54, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

• • I took a stab at the same thing for the soundbite section...I think that looks good now too. if any headers need new names, by all means adjust, but they should be kept to one word whenever possible, and be rather general Doctorindy 14:13, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

It does look better. Willbyr (talk | contribs) 14:41, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Summary Style tag

• I noticed the "summary style" tag was added recently. I think that's what has been talked about frequently around here, but never acted upon, for fear of the 'deletion fellas' going crazy. Since there actually is a tag, guidelines, and precident for doing such, I think it is a project that can be undertaken soon. Doctorindy 16:21, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. Willbyr (talk | contribs) 16:22, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

• • As a first thought, it could be broken down into Wiki style Lists... such as...and know that I'm making this stuff up as I go along, so here are a few off the top of my head...
    • List of famous callers on The Jim Rome Show
    • List of famous interviews on The Jim Rome Show
    • List of e-mail topics on The Jim Rome Show
    • List of soundbites used on The Jim Rome Show
    • List of nicknames used on The Jim Rome Show

Basically the headings from the page now...I don't really know...we should browse the page naming guidelines for more ideas....that's just a start Doctorindy 19:53, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

I personally would prefer to have all of this information in one article, rather than spreading it out over multiple lists which could be easier targets for AfD'ing. Willbyr (talk | contribs) 20:30, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

• • I tried creating subarticles. That went real well... --The Saxon 16:53, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Show Personnel

I'm not too crazy about Wikitabling the Show personnel section, but I'll hold off on reverting it if others like it. Willbyr (talk | contribs) 17:34, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bill Hunter vs. Billy Hunter

Did I get the right guy? Willbyr (talk | contribs) 19:30, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] live from southern california?

I quit listening for a short time and when I came back I notice dthe show is introduced as "Live from Southern California" as opposed to "Los Angeles". What is the piont of that change?

I'm not sure, I didn't listen for a few days and noticed the change yesterday. Check Stucknut, there might be a topic about it there. Willbyr (talk | contribs) 18:07, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Not from what I can tell. Besides, stucknut doesn't have insider information. I mod the Jim Rome threads, and I don't think it has even been mentioned. --The Saxon 03:15, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Yesterday, Jim Edmonds paid a visit and revealed that the new studio is located in Irvine 68.19.196.236 19:32, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Travis Rodgers list

I heard Rome talk about another member of Travis Rodgers' list....Gary Pulanski (sp?)...I'm afriad I'm out of the loop on that one, I forget that take, and couldn't find any info on him. Perhaps I butchered the spelling. I left it off for now. Doctorindy 18:33, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nicknames

I'm wondering how the nicknames section would look infoboxed...anyone think this would be a good idea? Willbyr (talk | contribs) 20:32, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Looks good to me: good job. Willbyr. But we've got enough boxes now. Please no one make anymore.--The Saxon 17:05, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism?

Somebody chopped the second half off the article Last night. Not sure if it was vandalism or some unaanounced effort to create sub-pages. For the time being, a revert is being done. Doctorindy 14:49, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The last edit to the "tongue" entry

I know that Rome has said that the "thud" sound is him giving himself a tongue, but does he actually tap the mike with his tongue? Willbyr (talk | contribs) 21:40, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] One last try to break up the article

I did some research on Wiki to see if there were any other similiar radio shows that were in need of "spliting up" to create sub-pages. I found an excellent example over at The Rush Limbaugh Show Wiki page. Politics aside, I think they did a pretty good job. Notice that when it got too long, they started creating sub-list pages related to the show...

• Jargon of The Rush Limbaugh Show
• Updates (Rush Limbaugh)

I think that the Rome show can do something like like. For example...

• Jim Rome's Takes
• Famous Callers of The Jim Rome Show
• E-mail topics of The Jim Rome Show

It is notable that the "takes" are actually Jim's takes, not just the show's takes....he uses that material in other outlets, not just the show. He uses some of the same takes and topics on his TV show, and in interviews, etc. Just a thought. If something isn't done soon, I'm ready to abandon this page as a regular contributor, because I agree it is out of hand, but so much needs to be maintained and reorganized. There is precident to break it up with Rush's show's page, so I think there is enough direction and enough back-up support now to deflect any attempts to delete the new sub-pages. Doctorindy 15:51, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

While I'm fully in favor of moving the minutiae away from the main article to shrink it down, I'm still of the opinion that all of the material that could be broken off should belong in one article instead of many, titled something to the effect of "Content and material used on The Jim Rome Show." IMO, having a good-sized article with a lot of pertinent info would be less likely to be AfD'd than many smaller articles. That's my take - REACT TO ME! Willbyr (talk | contribs) 17:50, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

UPDATE - In looking at the article, it's very possible that some of the material might go over the 32KB "warning" limit in and of itself, especially the takes and callers...if I get some time this week, I'll play around with moving some of the info and see how big chunks of the article are. Smaller articles might end up being the way to go. Willbyr (talk | contribs) 17:53, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

I say take a stab. I have no time to work on it myself this week...I can help though once it gets established. Let's get rid of those pesky cleanup tags! Doctorindy 22:51, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

• While working on some other large topic articles, I've created several footer Templates, and one might be appropriate once we break the page up. Template:Jim Rome I think can be in order. Included are all of the subjects of the radio show, the television show, all of the stations he worked at, past shows, etc....all an easy click away to link the pages closely, and prevent any of the pages from becoming "lost" or a slow or no-traffic page. I think it would be quite neat. Doctorindy 16:14, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

I have created an article featuring most of the big lists from the show: List of content and features on The Jim Rome Show. I will begin paring the big lists out of this article and linking sections in the new article. Willbyr (talk | contribs) 14:31, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

• I think it worked. I think there is a little bit of work we can do to trim a little more stuff off of the main page. I think we can do without some of the "examples"...it's one thing to have some "teasers" in the paragraphs, but we don't need a mini-list followed by a full list. Doctorindy 17:18, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Smarty Jones did not win the triple crown

In the section on guests, there is reference to Smarty Jones winning the Belmont and the triple crown. This did not happen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smarty_Jones

From the entry in this article:

Rome interviewed the jockey by phone, following his unsuccessful bid to ride Smarty Jones to a win at the 2004 Belmont and thus the Triple Crown.

Thus, it's correct. Willbyr (talk | contribs) 13:10, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Didn't Smarty Jones win the WNBA championship that year?--The Saxon 07:07, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

No, I think it was Nancy Kerrigan and John Elway.....hehe, I seem to recall a Smack-Off call perhaps by I think the Cablinasian talking about those two, as he put it, "horse faces." Doctorindy 16:02, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Show Location

Does anybody know from where the show is now broadcast? It no longer seems to be in Los Angeles, but somewhere else in Southern California. San Diego perhaps? I recall when his son called in he was 'Jake from Spring Valley', so SD would make more sense. Norcalvb

Irvine -- Jim Edmonds gave mentioned it at the beggining of Nov. TronNDoE 21:20, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dusty Baker

As far as I know, "scaily" isn't a word, why did this get changed back? Willbyr (talk | contribs) 18:44, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Horseradish (sound drop)

One of the sound drops at the end of the show sounds like someone saying "Call this horseradish!" Who is this, and what is he actually saying? Willbyr (talk | contribs) 20:05, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Name change

Per the last edit: Is Francis in Glendale male or female? Willbyr (talk | contribs) 13:22, 27 December 2006 (UTC)