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How sure are we that the book was banned in Germany? The cover copy on the version I have says BANNED IN GERMANY--BURNING INTO HISTORY--ADOLF HITLER'S BEST SCIENCE FICTION NOVEL! right above a picture of good ol' Adolf with a red cape on a futuristic motorcycle. So is there another source for this? I doubt the veracity of the cover copy. grendel|khan 21:39, July 15, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Banned or not

Okay, I wrote to Spinrad himself on this, and here's what he told me:

"It was put on the "Index," and that is what they call it. Under German law, anyone can complain to an authority called the "Bundesprufsteller" (but don't trust my spelling or German), made up of ministers, priests, other such non-governmental notables, that a book, record, movie, whatever, is dangerous to the mental health of youth whether it was intended for youth or not.
The offending item is guilty until proven innocent once it is indexed, but in the meantime it is not entirely banned. During the 8 years THE IRON DREAM was on the Index while the publisher, Heyne Verlag, fought all the way up through the legal system to the German equivalent of the Supreme Court and eventually won, it could be sold, but not advertised or publically displayed.
That is the summary of 8 years of complicated legal action." DS 23:34, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

Great work! Wonder why I didn't think of that. Some quick googling [1] shows that the Bundesprüfstelle (BPS) became active (or re-activated) in February 1982, and that one of the first books it banned was The Iron Dream. (According to Google's translator, Bundesprüfstelle für jugendgefährdende Schriften means "federal inspection station for youth-endangering writings", which sounds about right.) There's an article on de, which I've requested be translated. grendel|khan 17:17, July 28, 2005 (UTC)

Okay, Bundesprüfstelle für jugendgefährdende Medien (all media, not just writing) looks just about finished. Now, how to incorporate this... DS 14:03, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, but the information on that page [2] is, ahem, less than exact. Neither is the BPJM "Willhelmian" nor was it (re)activated in 1982. I took the liberty of correcting that ;-) Killersepp 03:55, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Removed spoiler warning

I removed the spoiler warning. It should be quite obvious to anybody that an article discussing a book will "give away" plot details. --Morningmusic 13:31, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

That may be true, but it is nevertheless standard practice to have them. --Gwern (contribs) 15:56, 4 November 2006 (UTC)