Talk:The Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, Inc.

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[edit] HOGD vs. HOGD, Inc.

Hey folks - the "Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn" is the legal name of the Order. There is no "inc." after its name. The HOGD, Inc. coporation is just a coporation, and has only three officers. It has no Temples, Chiefs or anything else that could make it a stand-alone Golden Dawn Order. As the entry already states, the Order was founded in 1977. The corporation was founded in 1988. They are not one and the same. I'm willing to meet half way on calling the entry "Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, Inc." simply because 1) it helps distinguish this entry from the one for the original Golden Dawn. And 2) because it would be silly to have a separate entry for the modern HOGD *and* the corporation that was founded to protect the modern HOGD (and several other Orders to boot). My problem is with treating the modern HOGD as "one and the same" with HOGD, Inc. Kheph777 12:23, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Please read more carefully, the subject of the sentence is "The history of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, Inc.". Not putting the Inc. is confusing, as the history of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn started much earlier. Your criticism assumes that the Inc. is the subject of the sentence; it is not, the history of the Inc. is the subject. 999 (Talk) 17:51, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

I would really hate to see us begin to quibble over semantics. The fact is that the article- as it is written- makes it appear as if the Cicero HOGD were named "HOGD, Inc." It isn't - and I think we should make the distinction clear in the article. I would suggest giving "HOGD, Inc" its own section, explaining its relationship to both the HOGD and the greater community. Kheph777 05:15, 6 February 2007 (UTC) Edited: Kheph777 09:33, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

A bit silly of them to confuse the issue by recycling an old name. It's like Engelbert Humperdinck and Engelbert Humperdinck (singer). Same name, same artistic field, but quite different people. We need some easy way to differentiate the two. Fuzzypeg☻ 21:02, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Seems to be a 'tradition' in its own right. It's an homage thing, I'd say. I'm happy when groups admit they are modern and don't try to imply they ARE the older Order. Kheph777 09:33, 18 February 2007 (UTC)