Talk:The Dave Brubeck Quartet

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[edit] Formation and lineup

First line is inaccurate. ¦ Reisio 20:28, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, there were other versions of the Quartet before the famous Brubeck-Desmond-Wright-Morello lineup, such as the one on Jazz at Oberlin (Brubeck, Desmond, Ron Crotty, and Lloyd Davis). I think the correct account of the founding might be on the Dave Brubeck article; about to check now. Of course, who knows if that's really right. MrBook 17:22, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Guh, okay. The solo Brubeck article has Brubeck, Desmond, Bob Bates, and Joe Dodge for the founding lineup. I don't know where Crotty and Davis came in or what else happened between the founding and the Time Out lineup, but I've fixed the info about the founding and the Time Out lineup, anyway. Hopefully a Brubeck expert will come in and clean it up more thoroughly and make sure what's there is correct. MrBook 17:38, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] That other quartet

We should probably try and work in a mention of "The Dave Brubeck Quartet" as it's existed after 1976 - it'll be more painful to add later on. I'm not sure how to word it yet. ¦ Reisio 02:43, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

I wondered about that too. The same issues will likely pop up as far as which members should be mentioned in the article. I would imagine many of the musicians were involved for short enough amounts of time that they can be safely not mentioned, but Randy Jones, for instance, definitely deserves a mention. MrBook 17:21, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Why's Jones significant? I mean I've no problem with listing every drummer it ever had, we're just not that far yet. :p ¦ Reisio 20:22, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Moving/extending article to all bands?

A thought extending the above "That other quartet" topic. Maybe this page could be made into a more general article about Brubeck's bands, that is:

• Moving the current article to, say, Dave Brubeck's bands
• Creating incoming redirects for each band name, such as:
  • The Dave Brubeck Quartet and Dave Brubeck Quartet
  • The Dave Brubeck Trio and Dave Brubeck Trio
  • The Dave Brubeck Trio & Gerry Mulligan and Dave Brubeck Trio & Gerry Mulligan
  • The Dave Brubeck Trio and Gerry Mulligan and Dave Brubeck Trio and Gerry Mulligan
  • The Darius Brubeck Ensemble and Darius Brubeck Ensemble
  • The New Brubeck Quartet and New Brubeck Quartet
• And each band would become its own section of the article, with its own lineup(s) and writeup. Even if many sections start only as a sectstub, that would at least provide a placeholder inviting readers to contribute.

Wouldn't something like that be more comprehensive and useful, long-term?

-- 62.147.36.137 19:08, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

I think we should stick to Dave Brubeck and the Dave Brubeck Quartet. If parts of these articles become large enough, we can branch them off. ¦ Reisio 20:43, 14 August 2006 (UTC)