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I agree with the last comment. Crystal Palace Park deserves a different page from the Crystal Palace. The current situation causes confussion as these two things are not the same. - getafix

WHy do you people (i dont know who) keep combining teh artcile on teh place crystal pacae with the artcile about the bfamous building? or shoudl the building one be renamed The Crystal Palace? - fonzy

When they moved the building from Hyde Park, where did they move it to? Various sources say Sydenham, Anerley, Penge and Upper Norwood (Even Wikipedia is internally inconsistent). The High Level station was in Sydenham, the Low Level Station is in Anerley, but the whole site was in Penge. I have not looked at a recent map but the Western boundary of the Crystal Palace Park was also the boundary between Penge and Anerley wards (both in PUDC and London Borough of Bromley). I know that Anerley ward has been replaced by Crystal Palace ward but I don't know if that included boundary changes Bebofpenge 09:28, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
From the maps i've seen, they seem to moved it to part of the parish of Battersea along the edge of Dulwich Wood where the upper level station was put a couple of decades later. Alec - U.K. 08:50, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
Well, they shouldn't. Shame on them. BTW, would you please provide sources for the "reason it didn't make money" thing and the "target for the Germans" thing? --Ed Poor

ok i will but what eaxclty do you mean about the germans thing thats what they did. They decided to take them down because they feard th germans coudl navgate there way around. But it was stupid as they coudl use anything. Aot of stuid thinsg were doen then.

example: teh shop bromley and russel, in Bromely tehy blackend out the name bromely becaus ethey thought the germans woudl know where tehy were if tehys aw teh word Bromely. - fonzy

I'm interested in battles, and I would like to know more about what people of various cities have done to lower their risk of aerial bombardment. If I get enough info, I could write an article about it. Cheers. --Ed Poor

-ok well i'm not quite shore how to implement a source or where to get one for the two water towers being taken down. It was a shame though. TV began in the south one. Logaie baird did his test TV transmissions from it. - fonzy

-- Ed poor do you wnat to help me on this article. - fonzy

What you've done is great. You can do more here, or branch out to other things you know about. Hmm, maybe I'll spell-check it. --Ed Poor

-well i want abit of help as there is an awful lot to write about On this buidling. - fonzy ps if your intrested in history this is quite intresting. I especilaly like lokking at old phots of the place. (maybe its beaue i live in the area.


I'm not shore but was it Punch Magazine that gave it the name "Crystal Palace". - fonzy


Pictures? Does anyone ahve pictures ones taht acan be used. Pictures of what it was like. What remains? - fonzy

I may have some pictures of the dinosaurs by the south lakes that I took myself- when I come accrosss them I'll scan them in- I've a feeling they may have my children in as well tho, in whaich case they wouldn't be suitable... BTW I used to be obsessed with the crystal palace dinosaurs when I was a child! quercus robur


I may go out and take a picture of what remains of teh North and South bases myself. - fonzy


rE-WRITTEN ARTCILE BY FONZYS FARTHER

- thankyou for adding it on 62.7.111.139 (mick) ironicly i just gonme on hen you added it, but why did you say it was yor farther origianlly? - fonzy

- because I cut and pasted teh comment you left at the bottom, which said "my farther" and I did not notice til it was too late.

- ooo i see, ok. Well the artcile does need to be npoved abit


I believe the dinosaurs have been finnished renovating. its still closed off so that trees can grow i bileive - fonzy

fonzy- how did you get the photo's? Can the public now get to the dinosaur area? my children were really disappointed to find that area sealed off when we went there last summer... quercus robur

Those photo's I took were on a special tour lst summer when they were redeveloping them, just to show people what was going on. At the moment the area is still celaed off to the public becuase they want the new trees to grow, but i heard ppl can go seem them on tours, btu i beilevthey are painted in their original colours, which is not i dont think the colocurs you will remebmber them. - fonzy

o btw Latest News The whole of the Top Site is now closed off as tehy are tidying it up from all the tipping and hazadous material. They are now asking ppl in Bromley what tehy want to happen to the top site. Its annoying It being closed off i wnated to get better picture of the higehr level station. I did take one of the North and South Bases of teh watertowers, the laste remaing collum and some omore terraces. - fozny

PS if you want to suggestion anything about teh top site, therea a form on bromley councils website www.bromley.gov.uk


Re dinosaur statues- you are right, the megalosaur is a little to the left isn't it? Thanks for spotting that :-) quercus robur

jsut wondering. are you going to add taht photo to Crystal Palace/Images ?

Um not really sure how to do it- feel free to if you want to tho... i'd like to keep it on the main crystal palace page as well tho.... the photo is at Image:Iguanodon1.jpg- cheers quercus robur

That's an extremely confusing first sentence. I had to read through it twice just to understand it. Maybe someone could change it? Pingveno 03:11, 4 Dec 2003 (UTC)


"But on 30 November 1936 came the final tragedy"

As I understand it, it's only a genuine tragedy if there's actual loss of life and limb, although informally you might refer to the loss of a beloved building as tragic. Lee M 19:27, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I've removed the words ", but the same could have been said about St Paul's Cathedral"

It's a valid opinion, but I don't think they belong in an article about the Crystal Palace. Perhaps they could be moved to Battle_of_Britain.--jmd 02:08, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

Many of the links here seem to be inappropriately wikified - why link to water when talking about water towers?

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[edit] Crystal Palace and Edward VIII's abdication

The burning down of the Crystal Palace occurred a few days before Edward VIII's abdication - should this be mentioned?

As far as I know no conspiracy theory has been proposed. Jackiespeel 16:39, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Why did it burn?

Can anyone explain why a building of glass and steel burnt completely to the ground. What was in it to make it burn so vigorously? Perhaps an explanation of the low temperature required for deformation of steel?--Mcginnly 22:37, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

It had alot of wood flooring, but the actual reason for burning down is a mystery. And why are there no images of the crystal palace at syndem? there are three of the 1851 building.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.41.0.14 (talk • contribs) .

[edit] Misplaced text

The following text in the main article soen't seem to have a logical home. If anyone knows what it is intened to convey, perhaps it could be re-inserted together with an appropriate source and reference.

The framework was similarly adapted to make the iron and glass ceilings in Waterhouse's Museum of Natural History.

Velela 05:48, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Other "crystal palaces" should be relegated to a subsection ...

... instead of dominating the leading paragraph. The lead paragraph at the moment is less than 1/4 about the primary subject of the article, and 3/4 about imitations of it in other places, which completely distorts the article. I will come back and fix this when/if I have time, but maybe others could tackle this sooner. Ian Page 07:36, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism

In the 'Relocation' section, I see two segments '___________Nick was here___________' and a part of the text is in a box. It is not part of the editable text. 212.8.192.18 14:41, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "photoshoped" image of the fire

This image is just some unknown dude's fantasy of what the fire might have looked like. It contributes absolutely nothing to the article. Why is it here? SECProto 18:12, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

The image was innacurate (it was of the 1851 building instead of 1854) and there are plenty of REAL photos of the fire.