Talk:The Black Room

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To-do list for The Black Room: edit  · history  · watch  · refresh
  • Clean-up/major copyedit as this is as its root a pre-WP:KLF article with the usual problems
  • Expand
  • Expand lead section, which needs to sufficiently summarise the article alongside its importance.

[edit] Chat from 2003

hmmm, okay, so what was the copyrighted text? are you referring to the whole document? or just the lyrics to the unpublished song 38? cos the page that you've put the link is a page on my website - and yes, i did basically just lift the text straight from that page to this one, because the text comes from a FAQ for the mailing list for fans of the KLF and as such is a public domain document. from the text at the top of the original plain text verison of the FAQ: This document is completely anti-copyright (of course) so you can copy, print, repackage, transpose, sample, quote as much or as little as you want so long as you make no money from it or pretend its yours. anyway, i've removed the lyrics, since they could possibly have been copyrighted i guess. let me know if you still feel there is a problem with the rest.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Illitrate23 (talkcontribs) 11 September 2003.

whoops.. I didn't see that.. sorry... I don't think the lyrics would be a problem... Evil saltine 05:32, 12 Sep 2003 (UTC)

The lyrics got added again recently, and I've removed them again. First of all, the source is the KLF FAQ which is not a verifiable source. Secondly, if they are genuine they are subject to copyright (not that The KLF would sue of course). --kingboyk 18:43, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Intro

I think the line "According to Vox magazine it is "considered by those who've heard it... [to be] The KLF's finest album".[1]" should be moved from the intro, because I feel it is a load of nonsense hype - I don't think there was ever a finished or even semi finished version so no-one can have listened to it. I think maybe the genesis for this example of poor journalism came from the 1992 break up story in Select, [1] where Mark Stent says:

To the engineer / producer Mark Stent, the resulting music was pure genius. "The most awesome track for me was one called "The Black Room and Terminator 10" which was like a very slow tempo thrash. It was mad. It was brilliant, absolutely brilliant, and it would have shown a lot of people up because it was as ballsy as hell. Guitars screaming all over the place, Bill doing his vocals and Dean doing his. There was such a raw power to it. It was so different from anything anyone else had ever heard. This was really heavy."

I mean I'm not arguing, it is a fact that Vox magazine said that, but I feel that by including that line in the intro it ascribes that quote an importance it doesnae deserve. Cheers - Drstuey 13:38, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Right on man, I think you're correct there. I've been off wiki for a while and worryingly Vinoir has disappeared, so I hope The KLF articles are still in good shape... --kingboyk 21:20, 26 July 2006 (UTC)