Talk:The Bionic Woman
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Including an article about The Bionic Woman is absurd. Trivial in the extreme.
- No more so than the million articles about other TV shows. Or the article on George Washington, for that matter. Everything is relative. 23skidoo 04:17, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- And, according to Wikipedia's "notability" standard, TBW is notable for being the first science fiction/super hero genre show to garner its lead an Emmy for Best Actor or Best Actress in a Drama Series.CzechOut
[edit] Cost
In the Wiki article, there's some discussion about how much Jamie's bionics cost. There's evidence that her bionics cost the same amount as Steve's. In Season 1 Episode 11, when Jamie and Rudy are stranded on an island after their charter plane crashes, Oscar drops some supplies by parachute. Rudy and Jamie go to open one of the boxes, but Rudy finds that the box was bent when it landed. Jamie says to Rudy, "Would you like to make way for the six million dollar can opener?" --Crazyivan 06:18, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
- Although I clearly recall a reference to her costing less in an early episode, it's worth noting this line of dialogue, too. 23skidoo 14:29, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
I believe in the opening credits, there is information presented about the bionic parts. The cost of the parts, however, is "classified." 4.243.152.165 02:18, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Bionic "bridge" page
(cross-posted to The Six Million Dollar Man)
I am considering doing a page that will bridge the bionic series together. The page would contain general information about the entire series (the shows and the movies) with links to the separate shows. This would make alleviate any duplication between The Six Million Dollar Man and The Bionic Woman. Does this sound good?
Lady Aleena 18:29, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
- If you decide to do this, I recommend making it part of an article on Martin Caidin's novel Cyborg as it was the base material for both series. 23skidoo 22:00, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] "Jamie" or "Jaime"
Both are used in the article, which is it? --Awiseman 19:22, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
- Yeah it's easy to be confused. It's supposed to be "Jaime" (according to IMDb and the novelisation Welcome Home Jaime). 23skidoo 21:35, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
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- The problem is that the producers spelled it both ways. When crediting Wagner for her work (usually on SMDM), they would typically write, "Special Guest Appearance by Lindsay Wagner as Jaime Sommers". However, in the opening montage, the computer graphic was spelled, very clearly, J-a-m-i-e. It's a trippy thing when you watch the pilot episode repackaged under TBW title sequence. Because the title sequence tells you her name is Jamie, but the episode title is "Welcome Home, Jaime". CzechOut
- In France she was Super Jaimie.Dogru144 15:16, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
- The problem is that the producers spelled it both ways. When crediting Wagner for her work (usually on SMDM), they would typically write, "Special Guest Appearance by Lindsay Wagner as Jaime Sommers". However, in the opening montage, the computer graphic was spelled, very clearly, J-a-m-i-e. It's a trippy thing when you watch the pilot episode repackaged under TBW title sequence. Because the title sequence tells you her name is Jamie, but the episode title is "Welcome Home, Jaime". CzechOut
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- In one episode, she gets a job working on a construction project. The foreman, expecting a male Mexican, is surprised that Jaime is a woman. (J-a-i-m-e [pronounced /'hai me/] is the spelling of a Hispanic man's name.) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 4.243.152.165 (talk) 02:21, 30 December 2006 (UTC).
[edit] Separate Jaime Sommers article
A new editor has written a long biography of Jaime Sommers as a separate article. A couple of editors (me included) have redirected it here, and the author keeps reverting back to the separate article. I've now added a merge tag to the Jaime Sommers article. Please comment here. NawlinWiki 15:47, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
- Do not merge, just format the character article so it is easier to read. Let The Bionic Woman be series centric, and Jaime Sommers be character centric. So, leave them separate. Steve Austin has his own article.
—Lady Aleena talk/contribs 19:43, 30 July 2006 (UTC) - I agree, do not merge. There is plenty of precedent for major TV characters (and even minor characters) to have their own articles. Besides Austin, see, for example, Doctor Who, NCIS, CSI: Crime Scene Investigation, etc. The article does need clean-up and wikifying, but otherwise it has every right to be here. 23skidoo 04:32, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
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- Wikipedia is inconsistent on this, however; Lucy and Ricky Ricardo redirect to Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz. Jlittlet 17:51, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
- Then Lucy and Ricky Ricardo should be divorced from Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz. However, that's a different situation than what we have here. There, we're talking about the actor being confused with the character. Here we're talking about the show being confused with its main character. I think it does make sense to keep them separate. Not all of Sommer's continuity exists within the confines of The Bionic Woman. I think some of The Bionic Woman's material on Jaime should be grafted onto the Sommers page. This one should clearly be about the show. That one, the character. I'm putting up a counter-merger tag on this page. The PLOT section here is way too long and involved on details about Jaime's life. I'm honestly not even convinced you need the section at all here. Again the focus of this article should be, I think, the television show, not the details of what happens to characters in that show. Details about the plot are only necessary as they are relevant to the history of the television program, but they should be mentioned as briefly as is possible to make the point. For instance, "When audience reaction to Wagner's first appearance as Sommers proved popular, producers soon knew that they would have to somehow bring Jaime back to life, after her apparent death on The Six Million Dollar Man. In other words, this article currently doesn't have what I would consider to be enough of a "behind-the-scenes" feel to it. It's much more about trying to chronicle the adventures of Jaime Sommers, rather than the Hollywood journey of The Bionic Woman. CzechOut 23:51, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
- Just to echo a bit of what CzechOut says, the fact Lucy and Ricky Ricardo redirect is probably an error that needs to be corrected by somebody writing a pair of articles. Both characters are iconic -- and in the case of Ricky being a successful Hispanic, something of a rarity in 1950s TV, landmark. They should definitely have their own articles so thanks for pointing that out. More to the overall point, minor characters generally shouldn't rate articles per WP:FICTION, so there is also some inconsistency in Wikipedia there, too, as I've seen, for example, single-appearance Star Trek characters given articles from time to time (usually to see them deleted by AFD soon after). 23skidoo 16:34, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is inconsistent on this, however; Lucy and Ricky Ricardo redirect to Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz. Jlittlet 17:51, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
If they do continue to exist as separate articles, the Plot section here needs to be drastically cut back. CovenantD 03:40, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] OSI meaning
As I said over at the SMDM article, there is nothing to support that OSI stood for anything other than Office of Strategic Intelligence. In fact on-screen dialogue supports this as do novels based upon SMDM and Bionic Woman. For some reason a user has been stating that OSI stood for Office of Scientific Intelligence or Information, but that is incorrect. 23skidoo 18:42, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Venus Prime
"[It can be argued that The Bionic Woman was 'inspired' by Arthur C. Clarke & Paul Preuss' Venus Prime series of six science fiction novels, which deal with a woman whose body is rebuilt after a near-fatal accident, and she is given a new identity and begins to work as a special government operative; it is worthy of further speculation that because the original inspiration was a female character, The Bionic Woman should have logically preceded The Six Million Dollar Man. However at the time when the project was being considered, it is rumored that the producers believed that the American public would not receive a female android super hero character, and so they changed her to a male; once the project was a runaway hit, the original female character was introduced, and a spin-off was born.]" I pulled this section out of the main article as it seems to be speculative and original research without any support. Bionic Woman was based off the Six Million Dollar Man which was based off the book Cyborg. If there is some evidence of Cyborg's author Martin Caidin being inspired by Clarke's work, then it would be a better fit in Caidin's article. I'm not familiar with Clarke's short stories, but the Venus Prime series appears to be published in the 80's, well after the TV series.RepSchnell 05:16, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
- Good call. Complete speculation, not to mention incorrect as the earliest date I can find for Venus Prime is 1987, so if anything the Bionic Woman more likely inspired it not the other way around. Most certainly I can't see it predating Martin Caidin's creation of Cyborg in 1972 or the first Bionic Woman SMDM episode in 1975. 23skidoo 05:52, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
