Talk:The Beatles' influence on music recording

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[edit] References and notes

Raymond arritt, I noticed you fixed the reference in Geoff Emerick's book; do you think you could look up the page number for the missing reference about close miking strings.

Ta!

Apepper 19:45, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Done. I have tons of Beatles books so if you need anything specific, give a shout on my talk page. Nice article you're working on here! Raymond Arritt 20:38, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Wow, that was quick! Thanks, that question mark's been anoying me for ages.

Apepper

Try sorting out these sections. You can look at McCartney and Mimi Smith's pages to see where you're going wrong. The books quoted also need page numbers adding. Looks good so far. andreasegde 20:31, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

"...to see where you're going wrong."? I'm certain that Snr. du Regarde meant "...for an example of Project practice."! Vera, Dave & Chuck 21:05, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Lol... who's this geezer following Sir Sean around and telling 'im he's a dipstick? Give that man a medal (Oops, he's already got one - bugger... :) Sir Sean hereby voluntarily revokes his membership of the 'Smarty-pants Club' in Mayfair.

Anyway... :)) I fixed the first two citations for Apepper, and I hope he's profoundly grateful. (Sorry, Apepper, but we have a bit of a laugh on these pages, which keeps us sane - I think...) andreasegde 21:19, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

I am! I couldn't a guide for citation of books - so I copied another article's. I don't actually own a copy of Geoff Emerick's book, so if someone could add the page numbers, I'd be jolly grateful.

The innovations are almost in chronogical order, so my next plan is to make that actually true - the sampling has been pushed back to Yellow Submarine; until I started researching this, I was fairly certain it was Mr Kite. I'll try and add the page numbers - presumably I should put the edition number? Apepper 22:36, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

I've added the page number and book editions to the notes - apart from the Geoff Emerick reference; I don't have that book. I'll let Andreasegde explain to other authors that without the book editions, the page numbers are worthless :). Apepper 10:50, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

I've changed the references to become book citations Apepper 11:12, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Section Order

I've re-ordered the sections so that they are now, hopefully, in chronological order. Apepper 10:52, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Missing Sections?

There are a few innovations which I havn't described - mainly because they didn't seem to have become widely used outside of the Beatles; I'd welcome opinions:

Vocals through a Leslie speaker - used, of course, for Tomorrow Never Knows.

Varispeed recording - recording at one speed and playing back at another, to introduce a different texture (by shifting the harmonic balance). The Beatles used it a lot in 67, 68 but it didn't seem to catch on outside of them.

Using speakers as microphones. This was done to record Paul's bass - almost as a variation on DI; an identical speaker to the bass amplifier's was placed facing the bass. The engineer who set it up was almost sacked for that!

Apepper 10:57, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Categories

I've added some categories to the page. Apepper 23:47, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Artificial or Automatic Double Tracking

The entry for ADT has been changed to Automatic Double Tracking; I'm changing it back to Artificial as it was named Artifical Double Tracking when it was used by the Beatles; I would also argue that it isn't automatic - an unpopular job for Abbey Road button pushers was wiggling the control that varied the speed of the second track to make it sound like a second voice.

Apepper 21:55, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Joe Meek and DI

Is there more information about Joe Meek using DI? The modification to the article is rather vague. The Joe Meek wikipedia article is unreferenced, although it would be entirely in Meek's nature to try DIing instruments, it would be good to have some more background.

Apepper 22:03, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Is it known if Meek used impedence matching DI boxes?

Apepper 21:38, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

From what I recall of my book on Meek he was very secretive (to the point of paranoia) about his working methods, so I doubt if it can be verified. Remember he acted as his own engineer for most of his recordings, and virtually handbuilt the studios in his flat. What was and wasn't technically possible (and what was tried) may never be truly known. LessHeard vanU 22:14, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

I've changed the emphasis on Meek using DI from "did" to "believed to do". Apepper 14:03, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

I note from discussions on his talkpage that User:Vera, Chuck & Dave has done edits on the Meek article. Perhaps they have an answer (or a book containing said info). LessHeard vanU 18:09, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Sort of, User:Vera, Chuck & Dave was told about DI by Chas from Chas and Dave who worked with Meek. Apepper 23:41, 3 March 2007 (UTC)