Talk:The Beach (novel)

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[edit] Book and film

I propose splitting this page - keeping this as the novel and creating The Beach (film).

A precedent is Trainspotting (novel) and Trainspotting (film).

Stu ’Bout ye! 15:38, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

  • I'm doing this now since there are other uses for 'The Beach'. This will be left was a DAB article. Vegaswikian 21:35, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

The plot summary is of the film and not the novel on this page.

A couple of quick examples: In the book he is from England not from America, there are issues with Richard being Sal's enforcer in the book, and some other stuff I can't think of right now.

Apocalypse_now references: I cannot judge the differences between Heart_of_Darkness (didnt read it) and apocalypse now, but "the beach" makes very obvious references to the movie. Daffys last words to Richard are "the horror, the horror", which are also Kurtz last words. Richard mentions the movie quite often and his insanity is comparable to the things that happen to Kurtz and Duvall. Also, the idea of westerners loving/hating apocalypse now is tackled. Although its an "anti war" movie, Richard loves the idea of hunting down vietcong, inspired by apocalypse now and the vietnam war. The war and apocalypse now produced some of the images (southeast asia, the rainforest, hunting asians) he longs to see on his "tourist" trip. How can we put these connections on the wiki page? Leobard 08:06, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] graphic novel

Back when he first film came out, there were reports that Garland originally intended the book to be a graphic novel. I haven't added this to the main page, because I don't have sources to hand, but it's worth checking up on. Kelvingreen 20:43, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

There are no mentions of the references to the Vietnam War which frequent the novel, or that the lead character is obsessed with the war. Also, it is incorrect to say that he went mad after the Americans were killed, as he had already been talking to Daffy (who was dead).

I agree, I'm not even sure its right to say that he's "going mad"; Richard just has hallucinations, he still has a fairly strong grasp of reality, enough to begin organising a sudden departure from the island ( with Jed, Keaty, F. and E. )on the night of the tet celebrations, during which most member of the beach community go crazy and start ripping apart the bodies of the rafters.Overall, this article is riddled with mistakes.. it sure needs a bit of work! Kotare 05:32, 22 March 2007 (UTC)