Talk:Terminator 4

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Note: Previous AfDs:

  1. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Terminator 4
  2. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Terminator 4 (2nd nomination)
  3. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Terminator 4 (4th nomination)

No idea what happened to cause the lack of a third one. Please don't ask for recreation unless reliable sources start to show evidence that this film will exist. -- nae'blis (talk) 22:58, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

How does IMDB sound for you? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0438488/ And even so, Terminator 4 may not be a film, but it is, however, an idea. Does Wikipedia not have other articles on "ideas", or is Wikipedia suddenly not an idea now? Judging by the ending of Terminator 3, I would imagine that yes there is going to be a Terminator 4 and there is more than good reason to have it here. Besides, what harm does it do to Wikipedia to have an article that people would be interested in? I sure as hell am interested in the concept of T4, and I HATED T3. 86.141.141.124 10:34, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

How does Wikipedia is not a crystal ball sound for you? Shinhan 15:08, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
Terminator 4 has been confirmed by Jonathan Mostow, he has been signed on to do it, just google Terminator 4 news and you'll get a slew of good info. SovietGuy
I'm not trawling through Google News (first page of results were blank) but I have this page on my watchlist so if you post some good quality URLs here of recent news stories saying that the film is now in production or at least casting, we can reconsider it. For now it's vapourware and the page stays locked until there's anything encyclopedic to write about. --kingboyk 12:26, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
I think he meant google "terminator 4 news". I got [1] which say its "confirmed", but it really doesnt look like a WP:RS. Shinhan 14:51, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

You better kill off Mad Max IV then cause it's just as likely as T4.SovietGuy

[edit] from my talk page

[edit] Terminator 4.

Are those enough reliable sources to create a Terminator 4 article? If the writer, Michael Ferris, is already giving interviews to Entertainment Weekly, then why can't we make an article? I swear, if given the chance, i can create a pretty good stub with plenty of sources that won't be any more against WP:NOT then the article for The Grudge 3 is, or Snakes on a Plane was before it's release. So, what do you say? dposse 21:18, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm not personally convinced yet (most of those are search/aggregate links), but if the consensus here is to give a stub a try, it'll be better off discussed here. IMDB has nothing firm, Yahoo still thinks it might come out in late 2005, a better RT link has no useful data except who won't be in it, and EW rehashes everything else already on the board. The Coming Soon at least says they've got a script, but that's it. Is there any sort of studio announcement, like with Grudge 3? Is there a director, actors, or greenlight anywhere in print? -- nae'blis 13:02, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
I don’t think that any of the links can be considered a reliable source. IMDB still has a disclaimer about the unsure nature of the information, and the only cast member listed is said to be rumoured. Most of the other links contain several years old information or refer to Entertainment Weekly, but the page at EW has no solid information except about a new cyborg to which they claim Variety as a source.
I agree that one could probably write an acceptable stub on the subject, that is how this article survived its second AFD. But soon after that it grew to its previous state where it contained speculation, fan fiction and on one occasion even fan graphics (a suggested poster). Bergsten 22:01, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm also not convinced there's anything enyclopedic to write. There may well be an interesting news story, yes, but something credible for an encyclopedia that won't look like nonsense in 12 months time? There's really no rush... That said, if you're convinced otherwise why not write the article on this talk page or in your user box, and if it looks good we can take it live? --kingboyk 09:28, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, I was a bit unclear there. I am not in favour of adding anything yet (not even a stub). Bergsten 18:49, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
Ah, the curse of improper indenting :) I was kinda replying to the original poster. I'm pretty much in agreement with you my friend, but if the original poster wishes to convince me that we're wrong I'm willing to listen. Sorry about the confusion. --kingboyk 21:16, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

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This page is a double redirect, but it's protected, so I can't fix it. Can someone fix it? Ian F. 17:48, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Fixed. --Sherool (talk) 22:02, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
It's still a double redirect... it should direct to Terminator (series) instead of Terminator (film series). Anthony Hit me up... 12:54, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Done. --kingboyk 17:05, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
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