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[edit] thanks!

thanks for stopping by my page im also wondering as to the issue format of the Punisher (1987 series), which is HTMLed table, as compared to the other volumes of the Punisher titles which are just a list. Do you think we should also table them? something like to make the format uniformed? but then it would be hard to track down every writer/penciler of each volume's issue if we make them all tabled, so should we just make them (all the punisher volume titles) just a list? any thoughts about uniformity? Bloodpack 07:05, 12 October 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Thanks

Read the link. Many thanks. I think my edits are 150% on what they were.

Asgardian 04:15, 13 October 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Jimmy Woo

I'm starting to wonder if Mr Woo deserves an article of his own. Aside from his background with the Yellow Claw, I think he's made a number of notable SHIELD appearances (including an LMD copy or two?) - and he's back again as a team member in the current Agents of Atlas, which seems to be meeting with a certain amount of critical approval. I think you probably know much more about the character's early history than I do, though - any opinion on the matter? Thanks! --Mrph 19:20, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

In reply - yeah, I think he's probably worth it. Offhand, we've got the Yellow Claw original stories, the Agents of Atlas, the Nick Fury vs. S.H.I.E.L.D. appearance, whichever tale it was that resurrected him after his death in that... and a bunch of appearances in Godzilla, to judge by his international hero profile. If Clay Quartermain qualifies for an article, I think Jimmy does too. He's not purely a SHIELD/Fury supporting character - and not purely a Yellow Claw character either - which probably adds to the case. --Mrph 12:41, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:Doctor Strange

Hey dude it's there again. Brian Boru is awesome 13:41, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

Announcement: It's an administrator!

Tenebrae, thanks for your support on my request for adminship.

The final outcome was a robust 62/1/1, so I am now an administrator. If you ever have any questions about my actions, please do not hesitate to contact me.

Thanks again, Chris Griswold

[edit] Thanks For Your Quick Response

Thanks for your quick response to my earlier comment. It's all good.

206.64.224.128 21:17, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wonder Woman's 'vast' powers

The individual who keeps doing that now says it in other ways, but keeps saying the same stuff. He/she/it doesn't edit so frequently that three pop up within the same 24-hour period. It might be twice in one day. A day or two might pass in between, but good grief, this has been going on since last month. Anyway, that's why I pointed this out on the project talk page -- which is exactly where I first learned about this mess myself. Doczilla 21:38, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Actually, what I'd really like to see some additional input on is a weird edit war going on in the Batman article. For four days, self-professed newcomer Nihilozero has done nothing but keep inserting a "Batman as villain" section into the article, often without logging in (by his own admission) which may make it hard to pin him on 3RR, plus he keeps tweaking it, but he refuses to back down no matter how many people hammer away at it. I got dragged into this after it had already started. I tried to put a detailed list of problems with his stuff, but that list really didn't faze him. Additional input would be appreciated. I'm going to un-watch Batman for the weekend because it's ridiculous for this to annoy me so much. Doczilla 06:18, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Killraven

Re your revert of my edit; A citation was requested and I provided it, but you removed it.

My reason for rearranging the pictures was that the bullets in the lists do not show up in my browser (screen res 1200x1600) when pictures appear on the left. I think the layout was more legible the way I had it.

Lastly, I don't think we even need both of the pictures - they don't add much to the article. -- StAkAr Karnak 12:55, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

hey thanks for taking my suggestions for the List of S.H.E.I.L.D. Members page. Also, just to let you know, i am going to be doing some work on it, not going to like recreate the whole page, but yea, mabey add some pictures and stuff.Phoenix741 19:59, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Comic Book Artist magazine

Are there subscriptions available for this magazine? If so, how much and how do I find them? A cursory Google search didn't turn up anything for me. --PsyphicsΨΦ 17:50, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! --PsyphicsΨΦ 18:17, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sheena Rating

The page itself would probably be a start class, starting to lean towards B class, but I am rating it on the film's assessment. There is only a small paragraph talking about her in the film. If the Comic book WikiProject had assessments it would no doubt be a start class. But until their is more information about her in the film(s) then it should remain at stub for now. If you want to continue to add more information and change it to start eventually that's fine with me. This is just one of several more thousand articles that need to be assessed and just one of the several hundred I did in the last few days. But altogether the page does look good, keep up the good work. Nehrams2020 04:09, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] About the Barnstar

You are very welcome and believe me you do deserve it. Thank you for your kind words in return, although I can't take credit for creating that Barnstar. It already existed, all I did was give it to you; it seemed to be the most appropriate one. :-) Stephen Day 02:56, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Thanks for contributing!

I've done a little bit of work on Military history of African Americans, and I kept thinking that it would be good to have a consolidated list of "the first officer ...", "the first admiral ...", etc. It's nice to have a place for it finally. Keep up the good work. - Jwillbur 17:42, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Spot images

I noticed the revision you made in DC Comics.

I agree that, in a perfect layout, the link box (I'm presuming that is the window you mentioned) would not interact with the text. In fact, since it functions to open the image page just like clicking on the image, it's redundant, unavoidable with the reduced size images, but redundant.

However, since it is unavoidable, and since the text wrap is dynamic with the screen resolution and font scale, your edit isn't quite that effective.

Examples from that article:

  • At 1240x1024 resolution and Medium text size on IE
    • Action Comics has a caption of 3 lines with "Shuster." coming under the link box.
    • New Gods also has caption of 3 lines, but is flush with the box.
    • Green Lantern has a caption of 5 lines with the 3rd and 4th wrapping under the box.
    • Superman/Batman has a caption of 4 lines with the the 3rd wrapping.
  • At 1240x1024 resolution and Smallest text size on IE
    • Action Comics has a caption of 3 lines and is flush with the box.
    • New Gods has caption of 3 lines and is flush with the box.
    • Green Lantern has a caption of 5 lines with the 3rd and 4th wrapping under the box.
    • Superman/Batman has a caption of 4 lines with the the 3rd wrapping.
  • At 1240x1024 resolution and Largest text size on IE
    • Action Comics has a caption of 5 lines with the 3 middle lines wrapping under the box the box.
    • New Gods has caption of 5 lines and is flush with the box.
    • Green Lantern has a caption of 8 lines with 4 of them wrapping under the box.
    • Superman/Batman has a caption of 6 lines with the the 5th wrapping.

At this point, my preference would be to undo the edit you made and bring all the spot images based on full covers in to a consistent format. The link box is, to me, the lesser of the aesthetic and graphic design faux pas. — J Greb 23:04, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

I agree that the size can, and if proper should, weight an image and its importance. However, in this article the 4 covers (Action, New Gods, Green Lantern, and New Teen Titans) all have equal weight with respect to their respective sections. And each of those sections feel, at least to me, to be of equal weight in the over all article.
That being said, this may just be boiling down to a difference in taste and perception. And to be honest, given that the images alternate and have a fair space between them, it works well either way.
I had included the other 3 captions in the examples not to suggest you had edited them, but to round out the examples. Beyond that I think we maybe miss-communication about the "window".
What I'm seeing with IE are the following things related to the spot image:
  • The image itself.
  • The caption. (Action Comics … Joe Shuster.)
  • The "link box" or "enlarge" icon.
  • And the frame around those 3 elements.
Am I missing something that you're seeing in your browser? — J Greb 00:07, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Agreed. Both to leaving the Action image as you've set it, and that it's nice to discuss the situation as opposed to shout.
It has been a pleasure, hopefully we'll see more of each other's edits. — J Greb 23:21, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] African-American firsts

Nice start, yeah, the article needs work, but this is a good way to begin the cleanup. I replied to you on the Talk page. User:Zoe|(talk) 21:39, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

No, I don't know who the first was. I knew that Robinson wasn't the first ever, so I did a quick and dirty Google search and that name came up. Thanks for being open to modifying the article. User:Zoe|(talk) 21:50, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

That PBS link doesn't work for me. User:Zoe|(talk) 22:30, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Fleet Walker, huh? That's funny.  :) Great work. User:Zoe|(talk) 18:18, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Digger (comics)

I like what you added to Digger (comics) it really improved the article. I'm wondering about your removal of the word "supernatural" from the page's opening though. Digger's profile on Marvel.com states "Has slightly superhuman strength, and green skin." This by itself isn't indicative of Digger being supernatural in a predominately science based superhuman universe. Since he originates as the host of a couple of supernatural horror series, I think its still a safe assumption to make that he is supernatural though.

I just thought it would only be fair of me to hear your side before proceding. :-)

On a final note, I noticed your kudo for my creation pf Digger (comics) in that page's history -- Thank You very much!!! Stephen Day 03:38, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Your reasoning seems fair to me. So, no mention of supernarural for now and Headstone P. Gravely, well, maybe in the future. :D
On a second note, I've posted a question about Digger's skin colour in Tower of Shadows on the Digger (comics) talk page. Since you were the one to write the Tower of Shadows article, I'm thinking maybe you might know the answer. Stephen Day 23:24, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the responce. Rueful laugh is right. :-) Stephen Day 23:39, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
One final note on this. I just added a section mentioning his skin colour. I figured I'd run it by you just to be sure its an accurate statement. Stephen Day 21:59, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Linkspam

Hi, I am an intern at Marvel. They asked me to go through wikipedia and add relevant links to their characters, books, films, writers and artists. One point of contention that I would like to make as far as reverting the writers/artists links goes is that the links to Marvel.com don't actually lead to anything for sale. It links to a list of books that they have worked on for Marvel and provides descriptions about the books. Marvel.com does not sell any of the books --- for that people would have to go to a real store or an internet one. I don't know if that changes anything but I thought it a point worth raising. Thanks -Sean- 15:18, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Innovation publishing

thanks for improving the article, but im also having trouble regarding its category:Innovaton publishing. how do you add the name of the company to the category lists? there are other titles innovation published and surely they need to have a category of the publication company (innovation),thanks! †Bloodpack† 02:27, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

thanks for a very prompt reply, actually david campiti visited my country to conduct his comics creation seminar last october 14-15 (and i was there), maybe you can start an article about him. he hold 3 glasshouse graphics studios, 2 in brazil and 1 in my country, philippines =) †Bloodpack† 02:41, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
lol, yes, whats your country? im from the philippines, btw, i really dont know how to add the innovation publishing category, can you do it for me pls? if youll notice, the Biff Thundersaur has a red category for it =/ †Bloodpack† 02:46, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
later bro †Bloodpack† 02:50, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] hey thanks.

when I start to find images for the other S.H.I.E.L.D. members I will remember what you told me. Also nice work adding the chart to the existing S.H.I.E.L.D. members. Great work.

and sry for not signing it beforePhoenix741 03:05, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Okay

Okay, I've blocked you for 96 hours, I think that takes you up until the end of the week. I'm going to raise this at the Admin's noticeboard because this is out of process and against current practise, but I'm ignoring all rules at the moment, and we'll see what happens from there. You may find a consensus rules the block can't stand, but I'm going to argue strongly on a couple of counts that we should consider the idea, namely in assuming good faith and also possible publicity concerns. Take it easy. Steve block Talk 19:15, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

  • Right, the following has been brought to my attention: Wikipedia:WikiProject User scripts/Scripts/WikiBreak Enforcer. What I figure is that unless I hear different from you or the admin noticeboard, I will let the block stand until the end of the week, but then from there you need to have a look at this thing, which I hope will suit your needs and work for you. I can't be around to block you all the time, I'm afraid, so hopefully this script will work out and be the solution. Good luck. Steve block Talk 20:13, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Kitty Pryde

I thank you for telling me that. It was removed because it had no data in it; in reality I should've commented it out until it had been filled out, and I apologise for that error --JB Adder | Talk 06:08, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thor's "God Blast"

Actually sir, if you will check the history page for Thor, you will find that I only added that term to the superhero box once. I don't have any intentions of adding it again since I now agree that "force blasts", or something along that line, would be more appropriate there.--CrystalB4 15:38, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vince Alascia

Thanks! The Social Security Death Index is a pretty cool tool.  :) NawlinWiki 15:01, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Shield_Countess.jpg

Per WP:DRV, I've restored this. You need to look at the tags on it, the tag you selected still requires a detailed fairuse rationale to be included, so I've left the no rationale tag on it, if you don't resolve this it will of course be redeleted in due course. --pgk 21:57, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

You asked:

Sorry for not responding during the two weeks, but I hadn't noticed the image was tagged on Nov. 6; how does one know when an image is tagged? Thanks!--Tenebrae 14:39, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

I recommend selecting "[x] Watch this page" on the Special:Upload so that any images you submit will be added to your watchlist. —freak(talk) 02:56, Nov. 22, 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Orphaned fair use image (Image:Richard and Mary Parker UToSM-1 headshots.jpg)

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[edit] Jimmy Woo

Hi, Sorry about that - I've been almost entirely away from Wikipedia for a few weeks due to Stuff. Should hopefully be back and active for a bit. Thanks for the Jimmy Woo article - I'll go take a look now... --Mrph 15:41, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Peer review

A request for a peer review of New Universe has been made at Wikipedia:WikiProject Comics/Peer review/New Universe. I'd appreciate your comments on the article, hopefully it will kickstart the comics project's peer review process. To comment, please add a new section (using ==== [[User:Your name|Your name]] ====) for your comments, in order to keep multiple responses legible. Steve block Talk 22:13, 29 November 2006 (UTC)


[edit] See AA Discussion

Asgardian 05:00, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nick Fury's Howling Commandos revert

I can't say I'm happy about the revert, but it happens. I'm going to eventually post something on that article's talk page about my concerns. It will most likely be Wednesday as that is when I have some issues back from a friend and I'll have everything I need to make sure the points I make are accurate. Mostly it has to do with the fact that I really think this article's focus should be the series and not the team. That's a point for later though.

One last note -- thank you for your words about the article on Timmy the Timid Ghost. :-) Stephen Day 23:59, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Wow quick responce on your part. You wanted me to check out those three articles you created, I liked all three. I get a kick out of reading the history of the comic book medium. Stephen Day 00:22, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

OK I just posted my arguments. Now we can get this sorted out. :-) Stephen Day 02:24, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] re: Eric Devendorf

When you tagged the page for deletion, I notice that you used the standard {{afd}} tag. I assume that's how you discovered that the previous discussion existed. Next time, just retag the page with the {{afdx}} tag. The format for that tag is {{subst:afdx|2nd}} (or 3rd or 4th ... if it's been repeatedly nominated). Follow the normal procedure but be sure to put a link to the prior discussion in the text of your nomination.

I've made the correction for you already. Please go back to the page and follow the link to the new AFD discussion to present your evidence for the nomination. My entry is only a procedural nomination. Thanks. Rossami (talk) 19:26, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] African-American modifier

The title should have been hyphenated; it was an oversight that it wasn't. According to the AP Stylebook and Strunk & White, a compound modifier is hyphenated, except for adverbs ending in "ly." Wikipedia policy is to follow those guides for grammar and spelling. --Tenebrae 04:15, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Then why don't you change move the article named African American to African-American while you're at it? —72.75.105.165 (talk • contribs) 04:36, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Because "African American" isn't modifying anything. The phrase "African-American man" uses the term as a compound modifier. No biggie. --Tenebrae 04:41, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Please see User talk:72.75.93.131 ... and it's not "creating a sockpuppet" if your ISP keeps switching your IP address at random. —72.75.105.165 08:17, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
I believe it is if you're registered as User:Dennette but consciously go by anonymous IPs instead. --Tenebrae 15:22, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion

Underway for Galactus (which way too long and cluttered with superfluous information). As for AA, everything is still there is a tidier form, right down to the mention of Andy's interests. The love interest could be succinctly dropped in, but not too much "tell the story". References - best left for the end, otherwise it reads like a mess.

Asgardian 09:24, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Admin thing

Have you e-mailed User:Asgardian about the request for administrative input? I can't see where Asgardian has been informed of it. Do User:GentlemanGhost and User:Grey Shadow know about it? I have no idea how they feel about Asgardian right now. For all I know, they may hate him or they may have decided he's making the effort, but they have both participated in those edit wars. I believe it was one of them who first brought the edit wars to my attention through a WikiProject Comics talk page. Doczilla 05:57, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm aware of it. Grey Shadow | Talk 07:03, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
As is obvious by now, I'm aware of it admin noticeboard entry, too. And yes, I was the one who put it the notice up at WP:CMC about the ongoing edit wars. --GentlemanGhost 00:41, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of Eternals members

Thanks but it was just cut and paste. Does that count as a creation of an article??Brian Boru is awesome 00:23, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Martin Nodell

Just wanted to say "Well done!" after reading your edits to Martin Nodell. I'd done some early, brief work on that article, but your edits were outstanding! Konczewski 17:41, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Personal attack on Theplanetsaturn

Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks may lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. Argumentative accusations of "immaturity" and "unreasonable", etc. Dismissal of discussion as "huffy". Occurs at Talk:Jhonen VasquezTheplanetsaturn 02:13, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hmmmmm Got time for someting a little bit different

You have any talents at putting together comic like graphics? The concept is to sort of parody barnstars as a 'wet diaper award' sort of thing to motivate people to work at better documentation trails when leaving the various types of In-your-face banner templates (Necessary evil for some admin stuff) like Clean, mergeto, merge, move, etc. where most of the time no one pays attention to the implicit directive in the template to document their justification in the talk, despite the link overtly given in the template.

While a chide, also want to interject some fun in the slap on the face. Hence my first title was 'Wet noodle award', which isn't funny at all in a first draft, but does a pretty good job at getting out why I think this is a good idea. See: User talk:Fabartus/Wet noodle award example and tfd comments when I used it prematurely, and similar subheading on my talk @fabartus (I'm about the archive most of the page so use the TOC to find). Thanks for your consideration in advance. I know squat about comics. // FrankB 03:59, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm flattered you asked. I'm afraid I'm not a graphics guy; I've gotten a couple of Barnstars (whatever that name means) but I couldn't draw anything on a computer screen to save my life. I can copy-paste existing stuff in Photoshop, but not design anything myself. Still, nice to be well-thought-of! --Tenebrae 04:12, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Well I was drawing a distinction between graphics skills and knowledge about. The former I can find easier than the later (My first born will do for openers), which isn't the same importance as perhaps one who knows what makes them tick, and can perhaps visualize and describe one or three ideas that seem to promise humor if implemented for others to draw up. But see the remarks Quiddity and I just exchanged on that talk page. I may be reinventing the wheel here. Right now, I'm heading to bed. // FrankB 04:21, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Theplanetsaturn & Tenebree

That last comment you mentioned seemed pretty actionable, to me, but it also seems like it was added by a different user, after which planetsaturn asked them to calm down, unless I'm missing something? If anybody's being a really consistent problem, especially if they do so without providing anything of substance, I'm always happy to help... it's not so clear cut, in this case, though. People are unfortunately almost bound to make off-color comments, in arguments -- if you can find a pattern of excessively severe comments, or if you can find an admin who draws the line different than I do, or if you can provide me with more serious diff evidence, you may get admin action. Either way, good luck. ;) Luna Santin 07:07, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

I think you're looking at the wrong section. The dispute between myself and Tenebrae can be found primarily in the section titled "hardcover". I'd link it properly, but my skill in that area is poor. I'm sure Tenebrae can direct you more properly himself later.Theplanetsaturn 07:17, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
I just noticed the bit Tenebrae was pointing you to on your talk page. You're right, that was not me who made that statement. As you suggest, I was the one trying to calm that user down during that unrelated discussion.Theplanetsaturn 07:23, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Left my feedback

Hello Tenebrae. Thank you for giving me an opportunity to comment on the Jhonen Vasquez article. It looks as if this has been resolved, but I've provided feedback on the talk page per your request, for whatever thats worth.  :) I'm not really an expert on the subject, but I do have a friend who is, so I've emailed them asking if they might have a copy of this book (in hardcover), and if they could provide an ISBN for the item if they do. If an ISBN was never assigned to the special edition by the publisher, that would explain why it isn't showing up on Amazon; an ISBN or UPC is a prerequisite to selling something through their site. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 07:58, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Just making sure.

Did we agree to keep all members together for List of S.H.I.E.L.D. members, or we going to put them in 2 diff sections(former members and active members) like what User:RIANZ did? I am asking this cause if we did not, then i was going to put something on his talk page. Phoenix741 04:30, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Meh, I thought we did talk about it, either that or it was like a unwritten thought. Any way, i will put something on his page about that stuff you mentioned. Along with a thanks for all that info he added.Phoenix741 04:49, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] William Wells Brown

An unregistered user at 24.248.250.170 made repeated vandalisms to this article. I don't have the Wikisense to be identify how much he's messed up, and since you seem to be the most recent member working the article, I'd better leave it in your capable hands. The ip address' Talk page indicates several vandalism warnings as far back as 2005. MDonfield 01:16, 21 December 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Awesome Android

Did you address any of the Discussion points? Or did you just claim the sky is falling and make assumptions once again?

Asgardian 20:20, 28 December 2006 (UTC)


1. I will respond if you ask rather than make demands.

2. Note that "you know who" was doing it long before me...


Asgardian 03:55, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

  • I was trying to be tactful. I think you know who I'm talking about (CxxxxxxxD). If you were also a tad less melodramatic I would be more receptive. This isn't life or death.

Asgardian 04:06, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

  • I think you are over-reacting. If I wish to speak with you directly, I use your Talk page, just as you use mine. "Impugning" you is also little heavy. I'm just saying that it helps to be a little less emotional about all this. Another example was your recent comment about things going back to normal "so the rest of us can get some rest". Again, a tad extreme. As for wiping comments from Talk pages, am I wrong?

On Awesome Android, all the points for the changes were placed on the Discussion page (which I agreed to), which is where you needed to respond first. More dicussion there will be needed.

Asgardian 04:33, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Civility

It's preferable on Wikipedia to comment on the article rather than the user. You may need to refresh yourself of Wikipedia:Civility, which sets out acceptable topics to discuss when editing. I'm not taking sides in any dispute, I'm simply looking to see any disputes centre on the improvement of the article rather than the behaviour of editors. Thanks for your time and happy editing. Steve block Talk 09:51, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Calm it down a little and let it runs its course. Remember we comment on the issue, not the user. I'm well aware of whose making which comments, and let's just remember the important thing is a good article. I have email enabled anytime you want to vent off-wiki about anything. Steve block Talk 15:31, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
    • Cheers. I think this will play out through the dispute resolution process, and end at the ultimate step, but that involves everyone, and everyone's edits come into play. Steve block Talk 15:43, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Comic-Con Int

That was yesterday's project, and it did take all day long (or at least all the time I could play on Wikipedia...). I used all the information, but there still is a lot of holes though. Thanks a lot! Dark jedi requiem 15:33, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Glad to see you like Dark jedi requiem's more elegant solution. Unfortunately, Philkaos has taken it upon him/herself to reintroduce dupe wikilinks and toss the table format. -- Robocoder (t|c) 18:31, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:StanLeeBookCover.jpg

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[edit] Ghost Rider

the general concensus [1]was to split the page circa August 2006, but no one did anything about it. if you're looking for some kind of official vote ("yes" or "no"), i invite you to (re)read concensus procedure. [2]

good catch with the copyright info, though. but i don't know why you declared a copyright violation directly into the article. you should just have removed that material. --Exvicious 02:17, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sorry

I just happened to visit that article and thought why the Footnotes/References were named as such. Reading your explanation, I concede to your judgment. =) Happy editing, seems you've got a lot of contributions under your belt. =P Berserkerz Crit 10:09, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Women in Comics

Thank you for the encouragement. I definitely do not want to see the article deleted. I agree that an article about the portrayal of women in comics is important. Currently, I am trying to clean up the article and have already visited the pages that you suggested. It is a struggle to write an article like this and not have it be biased. Any help that you can provide will be sincerely appreciated. Maple Leaf 00:42, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

I appreciate the quick response. It is definitely my responsibility to get this article up to the appropriate standards. Your suggestion of Women in Science will get me in the right direction. Thanks again. Maple Leaf 00:58, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

The article is starting to take shape. It still needs a lot of work but the one thing I did was change the title to Portrayal of Women in Comic Books. I thought it would reduce confusion with some of the other pages that feature Women in Comics in its title. Maple Leaf 22:36, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism

yeah i dont really care that much for X-men, i just felt like vandalizing a random, terrible movie. i probably wont vandalize anything else for a while, and i do make contributions that arent totally stupid, so yeah. just though you should know that.

-Dean (the guy that vandalized the xmen 3 page) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 209.77.231.209 (talk • contribs).

[edit] Thanks!

Hello Tenebrae. Thank you for this. :-) I really appreciate you going the extra mile. Cheers and happy editing! thunderboltz(Deepu) 18:49, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Another Thank You

Hello Tenebrae. Thanks for the compliments in the message you sent earlier. It means a great deal coming from you. I've seen you edits, and you keep articles in fantastic shape. I applaud your dedication and wiki skills. In terms of the "150px" issue, I honestly can't remember exactly where I read it. What I do remember is that it involved the issue of "Text squeezing", where including relative large images to increase the size of a section was discurged. I also seem to remember that at the time 150px seemed to be the de rigor size. But I could be remembering that incorrectly. You're commenting about most images being about 180px sounds right to be, too. Sorry I can't be of any more help. From know on, I'll avoid using "standard 150px" in the comments section since that can't be validated. So, that's about it. But thanks again for the comments and the great work. Bhissong 23:02, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ruth Atkinson Ford

My interest is exclusively Thoroughbred horse racing so I sort of edited her by chance after doing an infobox for her brother, jockey Ted Atkinson. I found a website [3] that claimed her birth to be born in 1918 so I then went to the SSDI for Ruth Ford where the birth/death years and New York state issue matched only one person. Note, I left open her death day as I have much experience in genealogy and know that the SSDI is sometimes off by a few days simply because pople filling in the form put the death date in the wrong section and is actually the filing date or burial date. The Canadian Horse Racing Hall of Fame says the Atkinson family moved across the border to upstate New York when Ted Atkinson was three making it 1919, or one year after Ruth Atkinson was born - hence her Toronto birth. Handicapper 15:28, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Portrayal of Women in Comics

Hi Tenebrae. The work you did on the Wonder Woman section was superlative. Your suggestions for techniques and copy-editing styles are invaluable. With regards to "bright college student", that would have been eight years ago. My goal was to be a broadcast journalist but never got past anything local. I currently do sales and marketing but Wikipedia has renewed my love of journalism. Cheers!! Maple Leaf 18:33, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Me too. I'm applying to Columbia School of Journalism. --Chris Griswold (☎☓) 02:08, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Help request

Can you give me some diffs to make this faster? Thanks.--Chris Griswold (☎☓) 02:05, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Joe Gill

Once again, fantastic work on expanding one of my entries, this time the Joe Gill entry. I got the very basic details, but you really brought Mr. Gill to life. Love to know how you tracked down all those sources.Konczewski 14:27, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks pal

Thanks for the nice words, glad things are working out your end. Steve block Talk 16:38, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Requesting Protection

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[edit] Image:Sam Kweskin.jpg

Hi Tenebrae, the image was untagged for more than seven days, so that image qualifies the criteria for speedy deletion. There was no license information on the image page. That's why, unfortunately I had to delete the image. If you can provide the whole license information with proper tag, I could restore the image. Regards, Shyam (T/C) 16:25, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

I would appericiate your efforts. But you may consider uploading free images on commons rather than on wikipedia. Thank you, Shyam (T/C) 20:16, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Severin

In your haste, you deleted the new info about his daughter. (I don't think the sentence about his grandson is relevant.) Pepso 19:28, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] punisher/archie crossover

hi sup! sorry about the removal of the comicbook screenshot of the punisher/archie crossover. but when User:Edward Wakelin edited the fictional character biography, i found he misplaced the image and i dont know where to place it =) thanks! happy wikiying! †Bloodpack† 22:23, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

btw, you might also want to consider to putting the image to a proper location, i find its position to be awkward inside the article, thanks! †Bloodpack† 22:27, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
thanks! btw, im at work right now. btw, can you pls review the "Views of the Criminal Justice System" section? also, i would love to hear your opinion regarding the other version of the punisher, pls see talk page. thanks! †Bloodpack† 04:34, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] thanks!

...for the current edit on the punisher article, although i dunno whered that bible/hamurabi link came from. also, i noticed that someone keeps on adding that "slavers" storyline in the views of the criminal justice section wherein frank states his kills doesnt make any difference, etc...do you think its notable? just in case he adds it again, thanks again! †Bloodpack† 04:15, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Please do not bite the newcomers

There is no need to block an editor for twice claiming that Spiderman is "the most popular" instead of "one of the most popular" superheroes. Please do not confuse enthusiasm and vandalism. Thank you, Kusma (討論) 18:03, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bob Kane

I've removed the Ron Goulart comment again because it was in the middle of the citation note for Bob Kane's book. If you feel the item has value, re-add it somewhere more appropriate. Thanks. Rhindle The Red 14:20, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ant-Man and Wasp Reprint

You said you deleted my reprint mention in the Tales to Astonish section because it wasn't need, but a lot of other comic related sites like Captain Marvel has a section for reprint. So how's that different from what I'm doing? 71.115.231.16 20:46, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

So why didn't you just move it to a more appropriate section on the page? We had this talk before when I did edits on The Black Panther page (I've ended up with a different id number since then), here's something you said:

  • But you know, you're right: My training is as a professional editor, so I do tend to shoot first and ask questions later, if at all. I've thought about it — you mention staying with your dad on weekends, and I've got kids who do the same so I can empathize on that basis — and since I'm trained, I ought to be more helpful with people who might not always "get" the policies but do have the big picture of wanting to make articles better. I thought I was doing that, giving guidance. But now taking a step back, because of your essentially polite query, I can see where citing chapter-and-verse rules can be alienating.

Yet, you're back to shooting first.

I was also talking to CovenantD, and just as I've asked him what sites are considered reliable? Toon zone and DRG4 are ran by pretty reliable people. Yes I'm refering to the edits made to the Secret Wars page. Just because the info doesn't come from an interview, means it's any less reliable.

Sorry, but I always thought that Wikipedia had a policy Assume Good Faith, but the whole citation policy does prove that as a double standard. 71.115.231.16 21:37, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

When I was talking about Assume Good Faith I was talking about my edits on the Secret Wars page. I gave all of the sources I could, to prove my comment, but apparently I'm not to be trusted. Just what websites do you consider acceptable sources? 71.115.231.16 21:53, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Road Runner

First of all, to demonstrate (using a relevant example) that Mel Blanc sometimes exaggerated his involvement in certain things is not calling him "a liar." There are plenty of examples of entertainers exaggerating things in their autobiographies... sometimes because they forget details, sometimes because they just wanted to be more entertaining and assumed people didn't really care about the boring truth.

I feel it's relevant in this article because people reading that section are going to want to know why Blanc's account is not considered reliable. The Porky Pig example is the easiest way of doing that without including the tortured and mostly extraneous explanation above.


Secondly, the Barrier interviews were done for his own research as a historian (and a fan magazine he did years ago called Funnyworld). They were recorded in the 70's, long before DVD's existed, but he included the audio recordings in his commentary when approched by Warner Bros. This does not make the information "uncited," it just means you haven't looked at the citation yet (Barrier's work and the DVD commentary). I assume you haven't bought the DVD set, but that doesn't mean you have a right or responsibility to revert everything you haven't had the opportuntiy to personally check. --207.230.140.240 22:02, 21 February 2007 (UTC)


Thanks for your response. For what it's worth, the "disciplinary action" listed on the talk page for that IP address was not for anything I did. In fact, this is the first time I've ever had to directly take issue with another editor. I know I can't exactly prove that, but I figure you can guess that I'm not the one going around blanking pages and engaging in idiotic vandalism.

But I certainly didn't remove anything that addressed that point in a factual way, which is that "Blanc's account had long been questioned by animation buffs...." That's all that need be said to present the unvarnished fact; anything else is arguing a viewpoint, which falls afoul of the policy of neutral point of view. It's also original research, which Wikipedia disallows.

I don't know how I can convince you this is not original research when I already posted a citation that both shows what Blanc said and showed what the real history of the character was. That's encyclopedic and pretty self-explanatory.

I'll try to find the exact disc for those Barrier interviews when I get a chance, but that first paragraph is already getting incredibly complicated in a way that obscures its whole point. The reason for that section is to let people know that Paul Julian was the voice of the Road Runner. Pure and simple. I'll leave changes to you since I'm not interested in a revert war, but a straightforward statement about Julian needs to be at the beginning of the paragraph instead of at the end of a sentence so complex it has to be read two or three times to be comprehensible.

As long as we're talking about Wikipedia guidelines, it should be noted that you changed my edits twice in a single day. Reversion is supposed to be a last resort, used only in the case of vandalism, clear misrepresentation, or the inclusion of a matter that has already been deemed off-limits by administrators or a majority of interested editors. The concerns you've raised could easily have been addressed with any number of tags (such as [citation needed] or npov) in order to start a discussion.

Based on your talk page, you seem to have a habit of going a little overboard in your editing of a number of articles (including a warning from an administrator for being too gung-ho). May I respectfully suggest that you take a deep breath before you start hacking at the good-faith work of other people... then you can see if anyone else shares the concerns you raise. --207.230.140.240 16:48, 22 February 2007 (UTC)


You make good points regarding the Blanc citation. Consider the matter dropped.


hey, at least tell me what you think of my finding that Ethelbert panel!


Oy... I wish you hadn't asked that. :-) The truth of the matter is that I was the first person to put up that citation along with a link that displayed the panel. I'm glad you put up the picture (I can't do that myself as an anonymous user), although I frankly think that having three citations for that one trivial fact (especially when it's all covered in Evanier's column) is a bit of overkill. Just one man's opinion since you asked. :-)


I apologize for coming across as questioning your good faith. That was never my intention, and I see that you have plenty of compliments for other articles. I only brought it up because there are now a handful of complaints -- one right after another -- from people with much the same concern as mine. I'm certain you are doing what you think best... I (and the others) just think you have what strikes us as a "Revert first, initiate discussion later" tendancy that contravenes certain Wikipedia guidelines and results in ill will. You can dismiss us all as newbies and malcontents if you choose (saying "there are always complaints"), but it's also possible there's something to be learned. --207.230.140.240 19:36, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Death Hawk

How about contacting the creator/editor of a page before you gut it and then accuse them of vandalism when they restore it to the state in which it has happily been in for months?

This fixation on the Death Hawk entry is starting to seem vindictive and punitive. You're the one vandalizing it. Jamesaxler 00:17, 22 February 2007 (UTC)Jamesaxler

I wasn't accusing you of being vindictive before, only that your constant actions and attention focused on this entry seemed like it.

If no one "owns" an article, then how can you accuse me of vandalizing it when you're the one making arbitrary changes that basically only gut it, not enhance it.

You removed copyrighted images that reference the copyright owner...which happens to be me. I gave myself permission to post them.

Yeah, I think you'd better call in an administrator. You're definitely making this personal for some bizarre reason.Jamesaxler 01:36, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

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