Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2006 November 18

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The result of the debate was Speedy Deleted by admin User:Future Perfect at Sunrise. -Royalguard11(Talk·Desk·Review Me!) 02:32, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Template:Rotin (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

Pointless template, apparently used exclusively for vandalism. I'd nominate this for speedy deletion, but I'm not sure if it technically qualifies. At any rate, no pages use the template, and those that did (for vandalism) were reverted. Fieari 20:04, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

• Speedy delete Patent nonsense. Danny Lilithborne 07:43, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy delete per nom. Khorshid 10:05, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy deleted as WP:CSD G2 (vandalism). Fut.Perf. ☼ 16:03, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was Keep Martinp23 18:51, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Template:Kurds (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

This is a POV template for same reasons as Template:History of Turks. It is making POV claims that pre-Kurdish peoples were Kurds for 100% certain and this is also an ethnic template of which we dont see any others on WP. Also there is current country of Kurdistan and there are dozens of POV issues related to renaming this as "History of Kurdistan". We dont have "History of Aryans" or "History of Persians" or "History of Indo-Europeans" or "History of Germans" or "History of (put "stateless" group here)" etc. Khorshid 13:35, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

• Strong Keep. Where it says non-Kurds are Kurds? It only have a section for early ancestors of Kurds. Second, why we should not have templates for history of ethnic groups? who told you Wikipedia does not need that? The nomination is clearly POV and biased. Nice try! :) lol Awat 13:43, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Hello brother! Please assume good faith! I have no bad intention. Khorshid 13:46, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

• Keep. It's useful to organize and give an overview of articles about Kurds. Bertilvidet 14:44, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep.per Bertilvldet.Must^TC 15:01, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Keep useful and organized. Ozgur Gerilla 16:02, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, looks decent enough. Fut.Perf. ☼ 16:05, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - but I agree, this template does have POV. It needs to be corrected. Chaldean 16:08, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - I see no reason to delete.--الأهواز | Hamid | Ahwaz 22:16, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Keep - r u joking? If someone thinks that something is POV in the template please point it out and let's work together to correct it. But the idea behind the template is definitely valid, Kurds have not had a "typical" history, like the histories of certain sedentary nation-states, so it is definitely ok. Because of historical reasons, there are many Kurdish communities who have been living in even Georgia for centuries, so yes, the idea behind the template is valid. Baristarim 23:23, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Nor would a "History of Kurdistan" template grasp the subject matter in its entireity since, the controversy over the exact borders of Kurdistan aside, Kurds, as a people, have not had the similar history as a bunch of land with human-made borders. Let's not forget that it is the humans that are important, not some random land whose borders were drawn in a men-only exclusive club in Europe.. Baristarim 23:35, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

• Rename to Template:History of Kurdistan. Great idea! Khorshid 00:09, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
• Rename Change to history of Kurdistan, then it will match other templates.Khosrow II 00:46, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

How about the Yezidis in Georgia? They have been living there for a long time.. Please stop playing with wikipedia like this. Everyone knows that Khorshid nominated this template for deletion because of the debate going on at the TfD about Turkish history template. Khorshid also nominated other Kurdish related articles for deletion, so I really see this as a bad-faith nom. I really don't understand what the problem is.. Baristarim 04:30, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

• Delete or Rename to history of Kurdistan. Anything before the Shaddadids in that template has nothing to do with Kurds other than the fact that the geographical location matches more or less. I wouldn't mind this template if it started with the Shaddadids.--Eupator 01:03, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

There's actually in the Corduene article sources available showing the relation between Kurds and Corduene. Ozgur Gerilla 00:42, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

• Strong keep per above. Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 06:03, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was Delete Martinp23 18:54, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Template:Newpagelinksmain (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

Formerly on Main Page but now disused; according to the talk page, it's apparently useless now due to technical reasons. Kavadi carrier 07:01, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

• Delete Wikipedia:hiddenStructure is one reason, the SEO-like nature of this another, and the robots.txt exclusion making this useless is a third. --ais523 09:54, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

• Relisting to generate further consensus Martinp23 13:25, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Khorshid 10:06, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom and insofar as CesarB, who addresses the uselessness of the template at its talk page, and ais523 seem to know quite well whereof they speak. Joe 18:10, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
• Instant delete textless no text at all. templates must have text. Jer10 95 06:40, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Templates must have text or pictures(opininal).

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The result of the debate was delete Martinp23 18:58, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Template:Greekletters (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

As noted at Wikipedia:Template namespace, "Templates should not masquerade as article content in the main article namespace". cesarb 11:40, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

• Delete — per nom. _→AzaToth 11:46, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Khorshid 10:06, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
• Comment: If the above guideline is indeed binding, I'll go ahead now and subst the template on all the pages where it's used. Fut.Perf. ☼ 15:50, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Done. Go ahead and delete now, it won't be needed again. Fut.Perf. ☼ 16:01, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

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