Talk:Telecommunications Research Establishment

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Weren't Martin Ryle and Bernard Lovell also at TRE???Linuxlad 16:16, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Dates

According to The Battle Of The Beams by Greg Goebel:

Ironically, the success of BITING (Feb 1942) made the brass worry that the Germans might pull the same stunt on the TRE at Swanage, and so intelligence about German paratroops across the Channel quickly forced the mad relocation of the TRE to Malvern.

Please can someone verify which is correct because it is at odds with this page which says that TRE was in Malvern from 1940 -- Philip Baird Shearer 11:18, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

It does seem the move to Malvern was March 1942, and May 1940 was the move to Worth Matravers. There's a good-looking Oral History at [1] and another good history by someone who perhaps was there at the time [2] [3]. Rwendland 11:12, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

It is not clear to me if TRE existed before Worth Matravers. Is this wording correct:

TRE was set up in Worth Matravers, which is four miles to the west of Swanage, in May 1940, and it moved to Malvern in August 1942 because of the fears that the Germans might launch their own Biting like commando raid against it if it remaind by the coast.

--Philip Baird Shearer 22:55, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

Another take names and moves is at [4], which says the TRE name was established November 1940 ~6 months after the move to Worth Matravers, and the move to Malvern was around May 1942:

The Telecommunications Research Establishment

The development of radar in the UK was initiated by the Tizard Committee on Air Defence in 1935. In 1935 the first experimental radar transmitter was erected at Orfordness on the East Anglia coast, east of Ipswich. In 1936 the small research group moved to nearby Bawdsey Manor, and it became known as BRS (Bawdsey Research Station). This was the central research group for RAF applications of radar, expanding over the years, changing its name three times and changing its location three times. At the start of the war, in September 1939, it moved to Dundee on the east coast of Scotland. In May 1940 it moved to Worth Matravers near Swanage, Dorset, on the south coast. Around May 1942 it moved to Malvern, near Worcester in the West Midlands, where it took over Malvern College. On the move to Dundee its name was changed to AMRE (Air Ministry Research Establishment), then it became MAPRE (Ministry of Aircraft Production Research Establishment), and finally in November 1940 it became TRE (Telecommunications Research Establishment).

The Air Defence Research and Development Establishment, ADRDE, also moved to Malvern, and TRE and ADRDE (renamed Radar Research and Development Establishment in 1944) were amalgamated in 1953 to form the Radar Research Establishment, RRE, renamed the Royal Radar Establishment in 1957.

Rwendland 01:28, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pictures

We could perhaps take one of the Crown Copyright photos from there "TRE Malvern Huts in winter 1942-3"; Crown Copyright expires 50 years after first publication (unknown), so it might be reasonable to assume 1942 MOD photos are copyright expired. Rwendland 11:12, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Computers

NB Tom Kilburn was also at TRE, and it seems TRE funded some the early computer devleopment at Manchester University (eg Baby which ran the first stored-program ever) [5] - Rwendland 11:12, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)