Talk:Tegetthoff class battleship

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Is it certain that the name of this class was Viribus Unitis? Some reliably-looking sources I found (1 or 2) call it Tegetthoff instead. -- Sandius 18:14, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)

It's pretty standard to name a ship after the first of the class, and if the dates here are correct, Viribus Unitis is the first. Stan 21:58, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)

It may be a standard, but there always are exceptions. For example this page, which is dedicated to Tegetthoff class, says: "SMS Viribus Unitis, the first ship of the Tegetthoff class, was launched on June 24th 1911."

I doubt all these pages are wrong. Given the fact, that it is common to name the class after its first ship, I'd rather expect them to follow this rule, unless they had some facts that are opposing it. And it seems to me they really have them. -- Sandius 23:25, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)

They can very well be wrong; in the process of our research we often find material, especially on the net, that is well informed on some things and poorly on others. In this case I find it curious that the departure from custom is not remarked upon, which means it's possible that these websites are copying somebody else's mistake - or not. I would recommend chasing down a more authoritative source, preferably in print and with an explanation, before fooling around with this name; although everything is fixable, it takes time to undo a hasty move turns out to be mistaken (I should know, I've made hundreds of that sort of mistake! :-) ). Stan 01:24, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)

It's Tegethoff. I'll quote a book about the A-H navy: "The name of the class is Tegethoff, because the first unit was meant to be named like that, but Franz Joseph I wanted to name the first ship after his motto (lat. Viribus Unitis). Anyway, the class name remained as Tegethoff.

check: [1] and [2]

--TheFEARgod 14:44, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

That seems to resolve the naming issue. I don't see a reason why the page shouldn't be renamed now. But perhaps you should also give us the title of the book you've quoted. -- Sandius 18:57, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Dario Petrović: The history of the K.u.k. kriegsmarine--TheFEARgod 20:27, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll wait a week and then move the page, if there is no opposition. -- Sandius 14:08, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

OK by me. Be sure to mention the naming oddity in the article (I didn't see it on a cursory reading), and cite the book in the references too. Stan 15:03, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Done. -- Sandius 20:30, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vırıbus Unıtıs Yugoslavıa

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[edit] Design Flaws

The Article alludes to significant Design flaws in the class, but then does not elaborate upon them. Could anyone bulk this out a bit as I'd always understood the Tegetthoffs to be a good design, built much too slowly...

Also, perhaps some of the historical background could be shifted into the Individual ships entries... Getztashida 16:23, 14 December 2006 (UTC)