User talk:Technopat

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You have new messages (last change).

Contents

[edit] Welcome

Hello, Technopat, and welcome to Wikipedia. Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. If you are stuck, and looking for help, please come to the New contributors' help page, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have! Or, you can just type {{helpme}} and your question on your user talk page, and someone will show up shortly to answer. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! By the way, you can sign your name on talk and vote pages using four tildes, like this: ~~~~. If you have any questions, see the help pages, add a question to the village pump or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! -- moe.RON Let's talk | done 01:47, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

If you have any questions or would like a comment, feel free to let me know. Have fun! -- moe.RON Let's talk | done 20:32, 13 January 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Translations

(The following posting was originally duplicated on my user page, but as of today only appears here --Technopat 22:33, 17 February 2007 (UTC))

Please. Dear experienced Wikipedians. While I reckon I have made a reasonable effort to check out available FAQs, etc., I have not as yet come across any reference to the copyright situation on translations to be included on article pages (I'm pretty sure that there must be something out there). The reason I'm interested is that I came across an article page for a Spanish music group whose lyrics are pretty central to their appeal and on the corresponding discussion page someone had asked for a translation.

As I wasn't too sure about the legal situation, I started a simple synopsis of the lyrics (on the discussion page corresponding to the album in question) and suggested that it might be in the spirit of Wikipedia to make a concerted effort among us all to try to get an ongoing translation, with people adding nuances to the basic translation as on any other article page.

So my question is the following: Is there any infringement of copyright if a free translation is made of the lyrics of a song? Surely the strict measures made to protect copyright only refer to the original version. Thank you for taking the time to answer this doubt. (And thank you for being on Wikipedia - it's a great project!) Technopat 00:28, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Dear Technopat: You're right, it is a bit difficult to find the information! Basically, a translated text is a derivative work, and as such subject to the original's copyright as well as the translator's. Therefore there would be an infringment of the copyright. Translations in general are subject to copyright. The min exception is that a translation made by an author who died more than 70 years will generally be in the public domain, but more recent works remain copyrighted.

You can cite and link to such translations on the web but quotations from the translations are subject to 'fair use' rules. You may use very brief examples, a word or phrase here or there (Such as "The Beatles song, "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds" begins with the words "Picture yourself in a boat on a river...") All quotations must be short and essential to the context.

Please note that the WikiProject for albums does intermittently check for lyrics & the such & will remove them as copyright violations, so it's best not to put the lyrics and/or translations therein as well.

I hope this helps, if you need further info, just leave a note on my user talk page. SkierRMH 00:52, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

(moved from user page) You've probably read Wikipedia:Copyrights. I believe many countries do not allow for translations of works without permission. I'm sure doing it for a couple of lines is fine, but also note that Wikipedia should not include original research, which may include self-translated works that are not published elsewhere.

Please also note that discussions should take place only on talk pages, as is the {{helpme}} tag. Thanks. Xiner (talk, email) 00:49, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Don't worry about it. This place can be confusing -- I mean, talk pages are technically discussion pages, but who says that? Xiner (talk, email) 23:46, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: translation of lyrics

Thank you all very much for your response. Wikipedia - and its Wikipedians - are great! Technopat 11:13, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Stevie Wonder

In regards to User talk:Moeron#weird stuff going down; What happened was that 66.222.19.10 (talk • contribs • WHOIS) edited the page in a vandal-like manner with this edit, replacing the page with nonsense. FrancoGG (talk • contribs) then used a program (see WP:POPUPS or WP:SCRIPTS) to rollback that IPs edit to the last version that was correct; in this case, that correction was yours. In short, everything is all good on the Stevie Wonder page again and there is no worries. If you have any further questions, feel free to ask. Cheers! -- moe.RON Let's talk | done 23:35, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Forests of the Iberian Peninsula

We seem to have had an ugly edit conflict at Forests of the Iberian Peninsula/Translation. I've done my best to restore any of your edits that I may have accidentally overwritten. My apologies if I missed something, you may want to check. Weird that we should be both working at once on something that has been so neglected. - Jmabel | Talk 01:07, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism & what to do

Thanks for the note on my talk page. I have sometimes been less tolerant of vandals than policy strictly dictates, but I've noticed that (of course) admins differ as to when a block is warranted. When I check a user's edits, and the last ten or twenty are vandalism, I generally report it, but I'm being more conscious of the chronology of those edits now, and sometimes just post yet another "final warning". Anyway, check out Wikipedia:Vandalism, WP:TUSER, as well as the links listed in the welcome message above for all sorts of good info. - Special-T 19:47, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding edits made to Respect - The Unity Coalition

Thank you for contributing to Wikipedia, Technopat! However, your edit here was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to remove spam from Wikipedia. If you were trying to insert a good link, please accept my creator's apologies, but note that the link you added, matching rule \bexample\.com, is on my list of links to remove and probably shouldn't be included in Wikipedia. Please read Wikipedia's external links policy for more information. If the link was to an image, please read Wikipedia's image tutorial on how to use a more appropriate method to insert the image into an article. If your link was intended to promote a site you own, are affiliated with, or will make money from inclusion in Wikipedia, please note that inserting spam into Wikipedia is against policy. For more information about me, see my FAQ page. Thanks! Shadowbot 14:32, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

I accept your apologies in advance and I suppose your hyper-sensitivity is due to previous negative experiences, but surely in these times of advanced technology, a bot can distinguish the edit of one single letter from spam or what-have-you. All I did was to change a header to lowercase in accordance with wikipedia header policy. I have now been branded, unjustly, for life as a spammer. --Technopat 14:45, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
You have not been branded as a spammer, this first message is a pure good-faith remark, not a warning. When I see your edit here you indeed did a good-faith edit to change the capitalisation of the header, but also, purely accidental I am sure, added a link to example dot com. The addition of the latter is reverted, along with all other edits. Sorry for the inconvenience. See you around, happy editing! --Dirk Beetstra T C 14:54, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
Please, stop worrying, there really is no harm done. You really accidentily added a link to example.com, just have a look at the [diff. This revert does no harm at all. You were clearly not vandalising, this 'warning' is almost forgotten already. Counting starts all over, you are at 0 again. These things happen. Even us established users do sometimes get warnings, or make mistakes. I don't even know what shadowbot got blacklisted, and I may get a warning as well in time. As long as one then follows what the warning says, there is no problem. If you make some good edits afterwards, the first two warnings say nothing (and shadowbot would only revert you once, except on the links that he is 'angry' about). So just go back to editing .. see you around, happy editing! --Dirk Beetstra T C 18:25, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
I don't think it is possible to put a virus into the mediawiki software, there would be only one place to put it (in your monobook), and only you can edit that. But please let us know when it happens again. --Dirk Beetstra T C 19:27, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
Don't worry, you're fine. There was a monobook virus going around a while ago, but your monobook is empty, and the virus wouldn't have caused you to enter spam links anyway. (The empty box means 'no script'; the warning on top is an attempt to warn people about the virus, because it worked using social engineering methods, and it appears on everyone's monobook.) The main thing to remember is not to add code to your monobook.js unless you trust the source. I hope that helps, and sorry you were worried. --ais523 09:22, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Do what I can. :)

Hi, Technopat. I'm not actually an admin, so I can't block a user. However, I did revert the vandalism and attached a warning--it's a school account, so it's possible that the same person will be at the same computer tomorrow. If it gets too bad, the admins will forward a report to the school's officials. But thanks for the head-sup. :) Justin Eiler 00:57, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Not at all, but sorry anyway.

Hallo, Technopat,

Yes, it seems we have, really:

  • But please check that my latest edition had nothing to do with yours. Mine just substituted the word fourteenth for fifteenth in the Later Life section of M. C. Escher, so restoring the previous writing, which had been vandalized a week earlier.
  • Now about your deletion of the trifle remark about some guy who apparently told something about Mr. Escher, I must say I absolutely agree with you. If somewhere, that trivia item should be placed in the page dedicated to the guy who told it (if he ever did, by the way).

Believe me, I am very sorry for the inconvenience. Kind regards, Zack Holly Venturi 16:11, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org../../../t/e/c/User_talk%7ETechnopat_eb42.html"