Talk:Team Carbon

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This article was nominated for deletion on December 23, 2006. The result of the discussion was no consensus.

This article was nominated for deletion on 19 December 2006. The result of the discussion was early close.

Okay I have put in the rest of the references, cleaned up the first paragraphs in each electronic sports team wikipage and removed all the nonsense. Since all the team pages are clean, all the members should be clean as well.
arrashju 12-19-06 @ 2:10 PM
These pages are significant because all the players and teams have been shown on television from November 2006 to the end of December 2006 on USA Network on the weekly basis. They all have been featured in magazines, articles, and some have been on the radio.
arrashju 12-19-06 @ 4:10 PM
Top MLG Halo 2 gamers are as significant as any other professional sports athlete.
Okay, I know you might be scared - but do you think MLG and the players would really disagree?
arrashju 12-20-06 @ 2:43 PM

Instead of making comments here, why not comment on the AfD page itself? And what is this about being scared? :: Colin Keigher (Talk) 19:48, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] POV

The history section is a quote from their employer, which obviously does not pass WP:RS. These "awards" have no business here. -- DJiTH 17:00, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Those awards are official end of the season awards voted in by mlg pros.

This does not mean that they are notable. These are MLG awards, voted by MLG players for MLG players, with little significance to the e-Sports community as a whole, unlike for instance the GGL Player of the Year awards, which appeal to the e-Sports community world-wide. Please consider that MLG only represents a small portion of e-Sports. -- DJiTH 17:23, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Okay then, so I'll make sure I include that this time then

This is not about how these should be notated, but whether they are notable at all or not. Also, please be more elaborate when writing a comment, indent it and tag it properly for the sake of clear communication, thanks -- DJiTH 18:07, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

How is this stuff not notable?

User DJiTH is making it his or her personal job to go through and object to everything in MLG-related articles and say that they are not notable enough to be included. Your editing reeks of extreme bias towards PC gaming leagues and against MLG. Just because you don't believe an award from within MLG is as notable as an award from the GGL doesn't mean you should be making constant complaints and changes to MLG articles. Please remove yourself from the process of editing these articles if you cannot remain objective.

Unfortunately, none of these articles contain any relevant information about the teams besides some stats that should be overlooked and edited. None of these pages follow WP styles either. Also, make sure to use ~~~~ after each of your comments. Thanks. :: Colin Keigher (Talk) 06:48, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

I have every e-Sports related article on my watchlist, since these are regular subject to vandalism, and there aren't a lot of Wikipedia editors that are knowledgeable on the subject. I always try to stay objective, and unlike MLG-focussed editors, I am able to view e-Sports as a whole from a distance. I think Arrashju, who has an obviously strong interest in MLG only, would be better off creating an MLG website rather than only editing MLG related articles here. As I said many times before, I have no bias, I have a clearer view than people who only follow MLG. I follow all e-Sports competitions worldwide and have done so for years, before the MLG even existed. While MLG uses rather unconventional methods of operation, this alone is not a reason for not being included on Wikipedia. However, this does require a critical approach to MLG articles, which I am able to provide. This is not a bias or a hate spree, this is caution and common sense. -- DJiTH 13:09, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Arrashju has a profile on MLG, so his interests are already settled. While he is capable of editing on Wikipedia, as evident in these articles, he hasn't understood yet the process, and it is advisable that others with interest in MLG do so too. :: Colin Keigher (Talk) 14:00, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

I have edited this article a bit, I think it is more to the style that we are looking for now? -- DJiTH 14:12, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

While it still requires a bit of work, it looks better. :: Colin Keigher (Talk) 14:53, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] xXx Real Name

If anyone knows the real name of xXx, please put it in, thanks -- DJiTH 14:14, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Also the date of strongside's release is missing, if anyone could add that as well, thanks. -- DJiTH 14:16, 17 January 2007 (UTC)