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[edit] Definiton

Teabagging is the oral sex practice of lowering the scrotum into the other partner's mouth.

...allegedly... (based on Googling, but sources are somewhat dubious).

I saw that on John Waters' Pecker, and it appeared to be simply lowering the scrotum onto someone's head. (The dancer does it to the art critic.) Not that I'm a John Waters fan, mind you. Koyaanis Qatsi
The definition I've always used, in my many and frequent discussions of scrotum-based sex practices, is what was in the article -- simply the lowering of the scrotum into the partner's mouth. Of course, Wikipedia Is Not a Dictionary, so unless some more encyclopedic information can be provided, I vote for deletion. Tokerboy

Okay, not to be an ass, but I fail to see why we have this kind of article on here?!??!--Julien Deveraux 22:47, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Hey!

Look here you nimwits! Teabagging was started by the Something Awful Goons playing Splinter Cell Pandora Tomorrow. Not in Halo. Regardless, the video game reference is unnecessary and I'm killing it. TotalTommyTerror 17:25, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

How does it matter which game started it, what matters is that if you have "corpse humping" redirect to "teabagging", you should definitely have some mention of the video game aspect.

[edit] Image

It is definitely far more appropriate to leave the image as an inline link rather than one that loads with the page. There is a very simple reason for this. It could easily qualify as an obscene image, offensive to a large group of people. People use wikipedia to look up things they do not know. So they may have no idea what teabagging is and be exposed to a (potentially) offensive image. Please leave it as an inline link.--Oni Ookami AlfadorTalk|@ 08:06, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Great idea, I support it 100%. All potentially offending images should be censored because they might offend someone, of course, of course. // paroxysm (n) 18:53, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

I find the picture HILARIOUS. But I do agree it doesn't need to load with the page. shaddix 11:57, 01 January 2006 (UTC)

Okay this image is by definition of the word, explicit. It shows bare human testicles, on a face. A large portion of the population is offended by something like this, and as this is a public project should not be subjected to it unknowingly and unwillfully. I am reverting again, answer and issue with it here. An article censored so often obviously has reason to be. Judging solely by the number of people censoring, vs the number reverting said censorship I think we have a consensus. Unless of course anyone can cite a wikipedia guideline or policy that explicitly trumps removal of an inline image.--Oni Ookami AlfadorTalk|@ 05:33, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

WP:NOT censored. It's just too bad that the human body offends you and a "large portion of the population." In the end, it also breaks WP:NPOV because Wikipedia is not the judge of what is "explicit" or not "explicit." For example, I happen to consider images of tortured jews more "offending" than someone's scrotum. // paroxysm (n) 20:12, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
I can see the point in it. I could care less and am not really offended as a matter of fact. However, it may be in the interest of the article, for the purpose of tactfulness, to consider one of a couple options. It wouldn't hurt to replace this particular image with an artistic rendition, such as the articles in similar context Autofellatio and Tribadism. It has solved problems before and comes across a lot better as a whole. It might also be sensible, although not necessary, to move the image in question nower in the page. It looks like it might belong in the sexual act category anyway, as judging by the picture, the person being teabagged seems consious and without objection (both uncharacteristic of teabagging as a prank)--Oni Ookami AlfadorTalk|@ 00:29, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
I agree that it seems to belong in the sexual practice section, since it looks nothing like the actions described in the prank section, and putting it there also has the effect of moving it low enough on the page that most users will have to scroll down a bit to see it. Personally, I'd prefer moving it to a link, since I think most people, while not necessarily offended, would prefer not to have the image on their screen without knowing that it was coming. If nothing else, it makes Wikipedia a bit safer for work. That said, moving the image lower down the page helps. I'm not sure that using a drawing rather than a photo makes a significant difference relative to the tastefulness issue, but that might not be a bad idea simply to address the claim of copyright violation. Swillden 21:51, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
Wikipedia is not supposed to be work-safe. The picture depicts a prank, not a consensual sex act. // paroxysm (n) 22:23, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
Why not make it less generally offensive and safer for work if the change can be made without removing the content? The girl in the photo is clearly consenting, even enjoying the situation. Swillden 22:26, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
Look at the uncensored version: http://www.owned.com/Owned_Pictures/Funny_Owned_Pics/Just__the_Soft_and_Round_Balls/OWNED.html The woman in the picture clearly has her eyes closed.
We are not going to make it "less offensive" because uncongeniality is purely a matter of opinion. WP:NPOV. Since it illustrates the prank, it should be placed beside the prank. // paroxysm (n) 22:29, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
The woman in the picture has her eyes closed because she's laughing, not because she's asleep, unconscious or unaware of what's happening. She's clearly a willing participant, not a prankee. Swillden 23:29, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
Since you're clearly ignoring the context of the act, which makes it quite obvious it's being done as a prank, not to turn someone on, here is the original diff of the image being added to accompany the article -- rate above the the prank's description. Hmmm. // Paroxysm (n) 01:18, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
Where the image goes is really no big deal. I gave an option, it was not taken, no harm no foul. Paroxysm's right. Somehow that part of wikipedia policy slipped by, so boo on my part, and the image should stay, and does not need to be moved or replaced. However, I still hold that it might be sensible to replace the image with one similar to that on the other sex act articles (even though the image in question is a prank). While there is nothing wrong with the current image, the other one may be "more right" if that makes sense at all.--Oni Ookami AlfadorTalk|@ 05:54, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure I agree about the prankishness of the image, but I seem to be in the minority on that, so I'll give. I've moved the image back, and also re-orderd the sections, placing the sexual practice section at the top. That both pushes the image lower on the page and puts the prank section next to the video game section, which seems appropriate given their similarity. I agree that replacing the image with another (perhaps hand-drawn) image is a good idea, particularly since it would also address the question of the copyright violation. Swillden 14:23, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
Copyright violation will not be an issue seeing as though I am the owner and the person involved in this picture. It was definitley a prank, but the resipricant happend to be a good sport and allowed a picture to be snapped. I would undoubtedly argue to keep the picture on this page, because if you try to search for another "teabagging" picture on the internet to help better understand what one is, you come up with results that are MUCH more distasteful then this current picture. A side note... I am also quite amused that this lengthy of a discussion has been taking place with my testicles as the topic :) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.25.200.14 (talk • contribs).
I see one major problem with this whole argument. Proof of ownership would be needed. Also, I have removed the email address from your statement for a couple reasons. The first being that it may not be yours, and you may be exposing someone to unwanted email traffic. If you wish to be contacted by email it is best to create an account and enable wikipedia's email system. Second, if it is yours, it is not a good idea to ask people to come looking for you to verify your claims, that should be provided on wikipedia itself so that it is documented for future reference.--Oni Ookami AlfadorTalk|@ 20:38, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rowing drill?

I removed the following recently added content, since I was unable to verify its factuality:

Teabagging is also the term used to refer to the crew rowing drill where a number of members of a boat will simmultaneously tap their oars up and down in the water to practise timming. It is rarely used as a taunt to other crews on the start line. The practise was almost certainly named after the aformentioned sexual practice, a common line of humour among rowers[[rowing]]

I'd like to ask the person who added this to please cite some verifiable source for the claim. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 15:04, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] An example of how idiotic Wikipedia can get...

Also, this practice can potentially backfire if a sleeping or unconscious victim unexpectedly wakes up and clenches down upon the testicles resulting in a painful shock or injury to the perpetrator.

WTH is this rubbish? Are you going to add every single 'humorous' scenario you can imagine? This entire article is pretty stupid, but the mind boggles at how a comment like this be part of a serious encyclopaedia. LOL, sheesh. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 172.213.1.151 (talk • contribs).

Then take the damn thing out if its such a problem, and mention why in the edit summary. No need to be asinine about it.--Oni Ookami AlfadorTalk|@ 01:10, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Prank?

Isn't unconsentually putting testicles on somebody, or dumping them into the water in a sack, better described as sexual abuse or assault than as a prank? It can result in criminal charges, as is alluded to in the article on Averill Park, New York (it doesn't mention teabagging, but that's what it was - Google it or search the Albany Times-Union archives. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Schizombie (talk • contribs).

Not necessarily. Almost any prank qualifies as some form of assault or abuse if the "victim" wants to take it that far. As sexual abuse that would be considerable as the sex act, just commited on an unwilling recipient. If the cops are called to a party or lan or something, because some dumb kid passed out drunk is pissed that someone smooshed their nuts on his face, they are probably going to laugh at him and leave. Also, and for future reference, its not a good idea to tell someone to google something. If you want to provide evidence you provide it, don't just say "look it up" because they're going to say exactly what I'm about to. I googled it and saw no evidence to support your claim.--Oni Ookami AlfadorTalk|@ 01:08, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Actually, if cops reacted that way they'd probably be exposing themselves to legal problems. As for googling, I'm sorry I didn't supply links for the lazy, but results still show for me just like they did when I originally posted e.g.: http://www.guidemag.com/magcontent/invokemagcontent.cfm?ID=23AF4DDA-E9FC-44E3-B68CD0F5D2F30FF9 and http://www.timesunion.com/archives/summarylist.asp?DBQUERY=%28averill+AND+teabagging%29&DBLIST=allpub%5Falbanytu&SORT=d%3Ah&NITEMS=25&qtype=q_string&action=Search&outputtype=XSLT&papid=albanytu&view=rtemplate&templatetype=legacy Esquizombi 21:16, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
I just said that because I didn't feel like looking it up myself and doing your job for you. Telling people to search themselves when you're the one making the argument is a really, really bad idea for a multitude of reasons. As for these sources, all either of them say is that there was a lawsuit, neither saying the outcome of such a case. Saying something can result in criminal charges does not mean a lot either. You can get arrested and charged for doing just about anything technical. Whether or not it actually qualifies as a felony, misdemeanor, or what have you is another story. In any case, the police leaving in my previous anectdote is probably a little over the top, but its doubtful as all hell that they'd take it seriously. The point is it can be either a prank OR a sex act OR a sexual assault depending on how the recipient feels regarding the act.--Oni Ookami AlfadorTalk|@ 22:25, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
I strongly suspect unconsensual genital contact constitutes a sexual offense in most jurisdictions whether the bullies who engage in it think it is or isn't. I'll have to see if I can find the outcome of the Averill Park case. As for "repeated dunking of a person restrained inside a bag into water" I can't believe anybody who wasn't drunk (as I expect anyone who would do that would be) would call such assault and battery merely a prank especially when it could easily result in involuntary manslaughter. Esquizombi 23:32, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
Like I said, how the recipient views it. As for the dunking in water, that is an old use that is probably never used anymore (Especially since boarding schools have fallen somewhat out of favor and hazing laws have become stronger and more present). I changed the article to reflect that. And you must admit, not too long ago it would have been seen as nothing more than a prank. Also I have (unfortunately) been present for many prank teabaggings (although not involved on either side thank god). It is definitely viewed and used as a prank very often. --Oni Ookami AlfadorTalk|@ 00:03, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
Well, how the recipent and the law see it. The perp's intent is pretty much irrelevant. I had never heard of the practice until a few years ago. If it's actually common, I have to wonder where and why. Esquizombi 00:09, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Honestly if the recipient is over the age of consent and does not claim assault, it doesn't matter what the law says. In any regard, its mostly drunk college kids at keg parties and people at LAN parties that do it, and yeah, for some bizarre reason that I want nothing to do with it happens a lot. Bottom line here is this... it can easily be a prank. Pranks are almost always technically considerable as either assault, destruction or property, or harassment if the person on the recieving end chooses to see it that way. A prank is different from a joke in that you are actually doing something to somebody. As a result nearly any prank can be considered a transgression of one sort or another against the recipient.--Oni Ookami AlfadorTalk|@ 05:22, 1 April 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Expansion of article

Tokerboy rightly said that the article needs to be deleted if there isn`t really any encyclopedic info. Perhaps as an idea for expansion we could make reference to the above mentioned:

http://www.guidemag.com/magcontent/invokemagcontent.cfm?ID=23AF4DDA-E9FC-44E3-B68CD0F5D2F30FF9

and http://www.timesunion.com/archives/summarylist.asp?DBQUERY=%28averill+AND+teabagging%29&DBLIST=allpub%5Falbanytu&SORT=d%3Ah&NITEMS=25&qtype=q_string&action=Search&outputtype=XSLT&papid=albanytu&view=rtemplate&templatetype=legacy

Any more ideas or feedback is welcomed. Plebmonk 01:59, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sex act

The "sex" act deserves its own article, and a lot of the trivia needs to be trimmed from it. Normally, I'd be against including a bogus "sex act" — 14-year-olds come up with these all the time, and no well-adjusted person would ever do them — but this one is seminotable. Czar Dragon 01:52, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Why does it deserve its own article? It will simply be take 1 article and make 2 stubs that will probably never be expanded. Also as a sex act or a prank, they are effectively the same practice and carried out in the same way.--Oni Ookami AlfadorTalk|@ 01:02, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Consolidation

I consolidtated the most of the sections into the Sexual Practice and Prank sections, as most of the other sections seem to fall within those two sections and serve better as subsections. I also trimmed the Sexual Assault section down as it was very repetitive and seemed to suffer from TMI syndrome. That is, it contained a lot of information that was either not immediately relevant to the topic, or adequately covered in its own article.--Oni Ookami AlfadorTalk|@ 01:35, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Regarding my recent edits, I created a disambiguation page to cover the extrenous topics that probably did not belong in the main article. I left video games as it is essentially an extension of pranks. If it turns out to be an issue its easy to copy the informatin back and have the empty disambiguation article deleted. I am still reluctant to give The prank and sexual practice seperate articles though as they are both essentially the same physical act, just under different circumstances.--Oni Ookami AlfadorTalk|@ 18:48, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Latent homosexuality

The see also reference was simply pointless. There is absolutely no [b]supported[/b] assertion of a tendency towards latent homosexuality in the section. Plus "see also" insertions are generally bad form. They are better suited to their own section at the end of an article, if the article's subject matter has some direct corellation to the article cited as a "see also". Better to use an inline link such as the following. "Experts have stated that teabagging as a prank may be the result of latent homosexual tendncies <source citation>." If you cant cite a reliable source, dont even bother putting it in the article as wikipedia is having too many problems with unsourced bs as it is. In any case, it doesn't belong in the format that it was in. It was a subjective association made with no evidence supporting it. Also, who's to say it only happens between two males?--Oni Ookami AlfadorTalk|@ 15:15, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Look, dude, all I'm saying is that if you think it's fun and/or funny to put your sack in another dude's face you might just consider questioning your sexuality. And it's only applicable to the "As a prank" section because the rest of the article is about a straight-up gay lifestyle and a guy going to a gay strip club to get teabagged probably doesn't need a heads up that he might be gay. No matter what your frat buddies told you. Ewlyahoocom 17:53, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
Look "dude" this is an encyclopedia not a place to make random suggestive comments. I see you haven't read WP:MOS or WP:NOT yet. Please do so.--Oni Ookami AlfadorTalk|@ 22:32, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
But dude, the MOS is huge -- can't you point out something a little more specific? (I find Help:Section#"See also" line or section but it doesn't support your argument.) See also's are really kind of a grey (or brown) area: suggesting another article barely counts as content, much less "research" (original or otherwise), don't ya think? Ewlyahoocom 00:03, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
No, not at all actually. When any connection is made or implied in a wikipedia article, it needs to be cited. If you dont want to read wikipedia guidelines and policies, perhaps its not for you.--Oni Ookami AlfadorTalk|@ 03:17, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
No, really, I looked. I couldn't find anything about See also requiring citation. (In fact, I find very little about See also at all.) I was just hoping, that since you appear to be a an expert on policy and guideline, you could, you know, give me a pointer. But let's compromise, I'll restore the link for now and when you find something in the MoS that requires its removal I won't add it back. Deal? Ewlyahoocom 07:44, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm reverting again. MoS or not, without making a cited connection it does not belong. Get a source or stop this nonsense. Also, for simply stylistic reasons, it makes no sense to isolate it so much. If you can prove expert support for it then include it, but it will likely be copyedited into the paragraph as it makes much more sense that way. And yes see-alsos imply a connection so they need citation, just as anything else on wikipedia. If you don't want to cite sources for your additions, wikipedia is not for you.--Oni Ookami AlfadorTalk|@ 15:36, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
Dude, I can see you have some real issues with Teabagging, so I'm going to let it go. But do yourself a favor: find someone to talk to. Maybe the house mother? The fellas over a Delta Lambda Phi? Whoever. But take care yourself, OK? Ewlyahoocom 16:36, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
Actually, I dont have any issues with this, or anything else for that matter. I simply choose to conduct myself according to wikipedia guidelines on every article, even if its as absurd as this one.--Oni Ookami AlfadorTalk|@ 19:39, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Halo

Why isnt Halo mentioned? It makes sense, people always teabag in HAlo.--64.121.1.55 05:08, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

  • People always kill in halo too, but halo isn't listed in that article either. Vicarious 06:43, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Teabagging in rock climbing

The verifiability of this term is apparently more difficult than I thought. It's mentioned in a variety of magazines (including, but not limited to, Urban Climber Magazine), and it's a well-known, commonly used term among climbers. In rock climbing, many terms are used that aren't considered 'official', but are ubiquitous in the sport. A good example is "beta": the term comes from early climbers videotaping their sessions on the rock to work out a sequence, and they did so using Betamax. Hence, anytime information on a climb's sequence is passed along or determined, it's called 'beta'. The sport is still relatively young, and slang-ish terms find a great deal of purchase in it to describe consistent events (i.e. "I took a huge whipper and ended up teabagging.") Understandably, it's pretty difficult to find verifiable references to this online, even though it's very commonly used at the crag. El Guapo 21:03, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

  • I don't question the good intentions of adding the climbing reference to this article, but there is an unambiguous policy on this issue, Wikipedia:Verifiability. However, including a source doesn't have to be website, if this term has been defined or at least used in a helpful context in a magazine, that'll work; just cite the magazine. Vicarious 03:02, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] In Video Games...

Recently (pre-registering this account), I put in a small blurb about teabagging in video games, such as Halo 2. It was taken out less than a day later saying that is was irrelevant. This, of course, brings the question how exactly it's irrelevant when typing "corpse humping" into the search box redirects you to the teabagging article. There should absolutely be something in there about its application in video games as a way to taunt one's opponent. Yet I fear if I add it in there again, some idiot is going to just remove it right away. Any suggestions, or backup even? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mutated Spleen (talk • contribs) 23:22, 20 January 2007 (UTC).

I agree, teabagging and video games are related concepts. I'll keep an eye on the article and revert anyone who removes the section. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 23:45, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Corpse Humping"

Okay, I don't know of any way to verify this, but in my art history course last year our professor pointed out that the Greek word for "knee" comes from the same word for "scrotum," because (and I quote), "The kneecap floats over the knee the way the testicles float within their sac." He then pointed out that in a lot of photographs of soldiers, they will have their knees down on their fallen enemies with their guns pointing in the air, as a way of "teabagging" them. I just thought this was an interesting point to add to the video game idea, but again, not sure how I would cite that. Rubinia 20:13, 24 January 2007 (UTC)rubinia

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