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Image:PentahoArchitecture.png

Pentaho is an opensource project and I think they are not against for that image in Wikipedia Setti 09:02, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Tawkerbot2 problem today

I posted a notice at the help desk because I wasn't sure what happened on the Tropical Cyclone article. Now I see there is a bot and some of the same problems have been reported before.

Here's what happened: The bot reverted vandalism (page replaced with swearing), but it attributed the vandalism to "user talk DavidH" and it reverted one version too far, so my recent edits were lost. I fixed it manually. It also seems like it left a notice on my talk page, then reverted that. Thought you would want to know. DavidH 22:28, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply [1] on my Talk, no problem now that I know what happened. If there's any way to change that history description (or is that too paranoid about appearing to be a vandal?), let me know. -- DavidH 00:25, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
You know, the "user talk" ref also confused me. Might be better is the bot wrote the description to refer just to "User...." (without the word "talk"). It's a minor thing, but I thought, "How can my user talk be the author of the change that's being reverted?" I know the bot leaves a msg on the talk page, so it gets that link, but it looks a little weird in the history. Anyway, thanks again, good luck, and thanks for tackling the real vandalism problems. That tropical cyclone one was nasty. DavidH 00:43, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Tawkerbot2

Sorry about that, it was caused by the IRC recent changes feed giving incorrect diff links and because the bot uses that information to determine who to revert, it would revert to the older version and warn the wrong person. I've alerted the devs and they're looking into it, sorry about that and thanks for fixing it. -- Tawker 00:18, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

bot admin

yes, wouldn't it be ironic if your bot passed rfa before you did :) of course it is premature, you'll need to optimize it and leave it running for a couple of months, maybe keeping a list of users it would have blocked. If you assume a blocking policy where the vandal is only blocked after his fourth vandalism within two hours or so, you will have very few false positives, if any. If you take into account the user's contribution and block log, say, block only users with few contributions, or with a log of being recently blocked by human admins, you will probably have no false positives at all. Under such circumstances, I can see a blocking bot being acceptable. New users blanking articles or writing "gay gay gay penis penis" are invariably vandals. It would have to leave a useful summary somewhere (VIP or AN/I) for easy review of its blocks. In fact, you could have it issue such notices even now, naming users it would have blocked, so people can keep track of its performance.

Having said all that, seeing that your rfa was turned down for no other reason than being premature, and seeing that you've been around for more than four months now, I see no reason not to resubmit you right now. dab (ᛏ) 08:09, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Interesting idea, having the bot issue blocks. I can see some people having issues with the very concept, so I think that, if you decide to persue this idea, running for a while a log of "would have blockeds" would be a critical step to gaining acceptance. OTOH, there is already at least one block-bot running (the anti-page move vandalism bot), so the basic idea is already in place. So maybe there would not be so much automatic resistance to the idea.
One concern would be how would the bot determine how long to block for? I see particular concern with shared IPs. And AOL IPs. In general admins handle shared IPs differently than other IPs. School IPs in particular. For instance, personally, I'm actually a little quicker to block a school IP, but will generally block them for a lot less time than I would block a similarly vandalizing regular IP. And blocking AOL IPs is pretty much useless. - TexasAndroid 15:54, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Bah Humbug

I think you need to fine tune your bot a bit. Look at this. It reverted and IP version but thought it was me. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 16:13, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Looks like the exact same problem as yesterday, Tawker. Sorry that it's not fixed. - TexasAndroid 16:41, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
Ok, I turned off the bot as soon as I noticed that, but you caught my on an autoblock before I could remove the warning msgs :) - I'm going to have another look, I think I'm just going to have to add a "manually grab page history" check rather than just relying on the diff versions - this only seems to happen when WP gets really slow, weird. -- Tawker 17:27, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Blocking/unblocking the bot

No problem with you getting someone else to unblock the bot/your IP. I consider the block as a stop button on the bot when it's having trouble. When you're active and able to turn it off on your end, that works just as well. And I never even considered that the auto-blocker of it's IP would hit you as well. Ouch. Sorry about that. - TexasAndroid 19:48, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Tawkerbot2

Awesome bot - has beaten me to a vandalism revert twice in 24 hours! Congrats on an awesome job ;) Image:glenstollery.gifPOW! 14:01, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Well?

It's been @least a month since you said you'd move {{ArtificalLightSources}}; will you? 68.39.174.238 23:19, 22 March 2006 (UTC) PS. The link @ the top of this page is defective.


Sea Island

Warning: This is a Joke

By far the greatest contribution you have ever made to wikipedia.

sound of BAH-DUM-BAH from the trap

Anyway, I was actually intrigued, but google gave me nothing and it's in no history book I have. Then again, I have no Canadian history books. I'm gonna look into this. TKE 05:47, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

That's pretty cool. I'll work up a preliminary tomorrow before I work in the evening. TKE 06:03, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
My thesis. Is this where you were going? TKE 06:49, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
This will be my first significant article contribution, so I'm gonna pester you with my goals if you don't mind. The VYA is the background, I'm going to focus on the three projects mentioned in the link. Off for the night, it should be up by 3:30 EST. TKE 07:07, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
It's up. I'm a Tennessean, so I'm going to leave the future of the article up to you Canadian folk who know what you're talking about. I left a note on the GVRD project discussion page letting them know about it. Fun times. TKE 19:38, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
BTW, I tried to lower the wiki defcon level by substituting what was there, it didn't work. What are the primary parts to edit? TKE 06:36, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
...and last but not least, how did Sea Island turn out for you? TKE 06:42, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
...the least. Thanks, now I've figured out the defcon. I hope to make it to the airport someday to see. Glad to help, it's your bots' contributions that motivated me. You get a vote from me on your next accepted RfA! TKE 06:49, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Queen of the North

I had to run before I could fix the Queen of the North article, thanks for improving it, it looks great :) - I'll try add the info that comes up on the 6pm news here. -- Tawker 00:12, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

no problem! It doesn't seem to have made the news at all over here (UK), I can't even find it listed on the BBC's news site. └UkPaolo/talk┐ 08:26, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the help on redirecting WNPA to WPCW-TV. Just trying to update the page since there are call sign changes coming up for the station. And again, thanks.Jgera5 01:56, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Damn 'nucks!

Thanks for response to my complaint about the bot. And congrats to the Canuckleheads for hanging on against my Oilers. Hopefully it will be different story on Saturday. ;-) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kevlar67 (talk • contribs). 09:13, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

What, I though I did sign that? Anyway, I hope your Canucks and the Oil and the dirty, dirty, bastard Flames all make it in so there's good chance of an all-WestCan series somtime during the playoffs and one of us might actually make it all the way. Cheers. Kevlar67 23:30, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Tawkerbot2

I echo the nice comments that have been made about Tawkerbot2. It's already excellent: when it gets all the attributions right it will be one of the best anti-vandalism tools we have! By the way, I think a better edit summary for the bot to use would be this:

bot: reverting revision 12345678 by RogueUser (talk) to revision 12345689 by GoodUser

The only links we admins need to make best use of the summary is to RogueUser's contributions history and talk page. I don't see any advantage in having a link to GoodUser's talk page. Keep up the good work! --RobertG ♬ talk 16:31, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Vhet?

Just so you know, the usage of the Squid image on pages other than the article its described in is considered a copyvio and isn't allowed under fair use, I hate to be the bringer of the news but you know how the WMF is with copyright issues :) -- Tawker

Huh? I'm scratchin' my head here. I didn't even know I'm using the Squid image. M o P 18:21, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Re: Sea Island, British Columbia

Do you know if there is a coast guard station on the island, I think there is but I'm not totally sure -- Tawker 01:15, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Ooooh, you're right. I believe there is. It's been a long time since I've been there and it's a restricted-access area, so I can't write more than a sentence about it right now. Thanks for reminding me. I totally forgot. Buchanan-Hermit™..CONTRIBS..SPEAK! 01:18, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Queen of the North Sinking Image

Why are you calling it a blatant copyvio, this is an image taken by a passenger released to multiple media outlets and cannot be considered property of any one media outlet, I just screen captured it from the tv station I had open. I would have to disagree on the "competing" with them as they will only show the article on the day of the event and Wikipedia is not in any way competing, we are simply proving an encyclopedic account of the event -- Tawker 00:07, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia may not be intended as a news outlet, but our coverage of major current events is usually better than that of most news sources. As a result, we compete with news outlets for viewership. One of the basic rules of "fair use" is that you can't take someone's copyrighted work and use it in such a way that provides direct competition with their use, so we can't claim "fair use" on current event images from news media. --Carnildo 03:48, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
And yet the image only appeared after the TV station had 24 hours of non competition from Wikipedia and the image can hardly be considered copyright of the media station. It was also on multiple unaffiliated networks so property of the image does not rest with any one station. As the image will end up on Wikipedia one way or another, I see no reason to play a "delay longer" game. Consensus on the IRC channels tends to agree with me -- Tawker 04:13, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
No, in this case it appears that copyright rests with the unknown person who made the image, so we're competing with their ability to sell the image to news outlets, by reducing its value to those news outlets. And the fact that we spent 24 hours not violating copyright doesn't matter one bit. --Carnildo 05:13, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
I've made a phone call to the newsroom in question, obviously the image enhances the story so I'll try and get source info. I think after a week though it will count as fair use as it won't be used in the mainstream media after today. -- Tawker 05:27, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
Whoever made the image, they've already sold it to the news station(s), they're not going to make any more money from it. Copyright law sucks, but we can hardly get a free replacement, can we? IANAL but the "fair use" claim seems justified - we've identified that yes, it's from a TV station, and we're not competing with them... Alphax τεχ 06:46, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar, w00t!

RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar Congratulations!!!

This RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar is presented to Tawker from LBMixPro for taking vandalism recovery to the next level by being the first to create comprehensive vandal fighting bot.

Thanks

A big pixelated WikiThanks for the RAOK barnstar! Feel free to bug ask me for help on other images. :) — 0918BRIAN • 2006-03-25 08:46

Tawker: Thanks for tagging the Bill Everett image. I'm fairly new here - at least when it come to using it regularly - and good GOD is there a lot to read! Thanks for your help. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cfortunato (talk • contribs).

Your concerns on my RfA

You mentioned a concern that I'd simply delete images such as Image:Queen of the north sinking.jpg out of hand. In the past, I've always tagged such images for speedy deletion, to get a second opinion. --Carnildo

Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my user page

Thanks for your (as always) very quick revert of the vandalism to my user page. Greatly appreciated. Gwernol 05:27, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

My RfS

This is now my Request for Sleep vote to see if I'm allowed to go to sleep (for 8 hours and the human portion known as Tawker, the computer known as Tawkerbot2 will never ever sleep). I won't sleep until it reaches consensus.


(3/4/2) ending 25:06, 30 February 3006 (UTC)

Question: I agree that Tawker should be able to sleep

Support

  1. Strong support. Get this fucker out of here! Allow this great contributor to get the rest he deserves. --Rory096 09:16, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
  2. zzzzzzz -- Tawker 09:17, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
  3. Support, if only so he'll quit reverting other people's clearly thought-out, well-reasoned large-scale removal of obviously irrelevant and unencyclopedic information from Wikipedia. Warrens 09:57, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
  4. Support so that he can get rid of the pills. --a.n.o.n.y.m t 22:14, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
  5. Support. Of course, ever....(zz). User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 04:43, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Oppose

  1. Oppose. Sleep is for the weak! --Carnildo 09:37, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
  2. Oppose. Thanks for experimenting with your talk page. Your test worked, and has been denied or removed by an automated bot. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Thanks. If you feel you have received this notice in error, please contact the bot owner // Tawkerbot2 09:41, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
  3. Oppose. Too few edits for a self-nomination. More experience and a few more months and I'll be happy to vote support your RfS. Also, per my own standards I prefer sleepers to be more than just vandal fighters. tv316 09:51, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
  4. Oppose. The vandals will eat us! Misza13 T C 09:56, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Neuteral

  1. Erm, who would want to neuter Tawker? --Rory096 09:46, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
  2. Cyborg (no neutering) - As much as I personally enjoy sleep and think all good wikipedias should get theirs, your contributions are important, so I hereby nominate you to become a cyborg. This way you won't need the sleep and can keep on editing forever. -- malo (tlk) (cntrbtns) 22:20, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Comments

  • Well, it depends on how you are going to format your sleep. Perhaps all the nightmares should get their own articles as stubs, while the other dreams should be all in one article. But then again, dreams are rarely varifiable and too often original research. And they are likely to violate the NPOV policy as well since they often derive from sub-conscious thoughts and feelings. Buchanan-Hermit™..CONTRIBS..SPEAK! 09:27, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Note: This is a joke :)

It's happening again

<grin> Another message from tb2, to SmackBot, which has been blocked since early this AM! Rich Farmbrough 22:44 26 March 2006 (UTC).

That's OK. I've borrowed your giant button for User:SmackBot - but it's an all user stop button. Rich Farmbrough 23:16 26 March 2006 (UTC).
Oh I didn't mean TB2 had blocked SB (that was a complaint from a grumpy user) I meant I knew SB hadn't been editing because of that. Rich Farmbrough 23:17 27 March 2006 (UTC).

RfA

It doesn't really matter, I withdrew. --Khoikhoi 01:53, 27 March 2006 (UTC)


Image

You left a message regarding an image I uploaded on my user page. This image, ourcottage.jpg, is of MY cottage, I took it, and it was uploaded a long time ago with no problem. I find it very strange that after so much time someone has made a copyright comment on it. TruthCrusader 08:05, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Tawkerbot2 on other wikis?

Hello. I'm an admin of it:wikipedia. Recently there was a short discussion in our village pump and on our IRC chan regarding the Tawkerbot2, his advantages and possible problems. Many italian wikipedians showed interest but also concern and asked to know more about what the bot actually do and can do. Could we have the bot code and maybe a bit of tecnical support? :-) Thank you very much - J B

Tawkerbot

Nope - no block bots for me! Just good old fashioned keyboarding and a sharp eye for trouble :-) I think Curps does use a blockbot, but its inner workings haven't been disclosed as far as I know. What was funny for me, was that even though I typed the entire block message, I was just moments after Curps!

Anyway, keep up the great work - it's really nice to see someone actively making Wikipedia a better place, and it's really appreciated. See you around! --HappyCamper 23:22, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Anti-vandal on pt:Wikipedia

(sorry for my english) Hi, I'm a sysop in pt:Wikipedia. Is possible to run a anti vandalism bot on that project? If yes, is possible to share your code to me? =) 555pt | msg | msg on w:pt 01:10, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Redirection help page

I applied a redirect cutting and pasting from the Wikipedia redirect page to make sure of the syntax (using the correct Wiki target oage as appropriate) and TB2 pinged me for a capitalization error. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nick Thorne (talk • contribs).

.NET Bot Framework

Hi, thanks for applying to use the .NET Bot Framework. Your request has been approved, and you should have already received instructions as to accessing the source code of the framework. You have also been added to the Spam list for announcement emails regarding the framework. If you do not wish to receive these announcements, please feel free to remove yourself from this list. Messages sent will involve announcements of new versions, features and other important information. Thanks, and enjoy your use of the framework, Werdnabot (DNBF)/T\C on behalf of Werdna648T/C\@ 06:09, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Redirect fix

Thanks Tawker. I made a typo on my redirect. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Manufracture (talk • contribs).

LCvandal

No problem glad to help ^_^ — Deckiller 02:10, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

10 seconds actually

Well keep up the good work. :)- Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg | Talk 04:17, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

RFA

Thank you sir for your nomination. I accept and am honored to be nominated.--Adam (talk) 05:00, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Tagging WikiProject Vancouver articles

I noticed that you tagged some West Vancouver schools' talkpages with {{vancouverproject}}. Just a reminder that for articles related to something outside of Vancouver proper, the {{vancouverproject-gvrd}} tag should be used instead. Thanks. :) Buchanan-Hermit™..CONTRIBS..SPEAK! 07:12, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm in the process of re-tagging them but if you get to some before I do (or if I miss some), it would be appreciated. Thanks. This is really great work. :) Buchanan-Hermit™..CONTRIBS..SPEAK! 07:15, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
Hehe, yeah. If you want, you can ask the WikiProject participants whether they mind you putting your bot to work here. Your Deas Island article is alright; not a bad start at all. I probably can't get a photo of it anytime soon (due to university exams) but after April 28, I can try to arrange a Delta bike trip to take some shots. But yeah, I agree that you should reqphoto it and see what pops up. :) Buchanan-Hermit™..CONTRIBS..SPEAK! 07:22, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure which articles "desperately" need pics right now, but because I have a uPass, I will be taking bus rides all over the GVRD this summer (and I do mean all over). I'll likely be able to snap some pics, as I am in Richmond and not TOO terribly disconnected from civilization, hehe. Buchanan-Hermit™..CONTRIBS..SPEAK! 07:37, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
Oooh, thanks for the barnstar. That was a pleasant surprise :). The Vancouver Canucks article's always a good thing to focus on. My original reason for joining Wikipedia was actually to work on the Canucks page, actually. But I've diversified somewhat, probably for the better. Buchanan-Hermit™..CONTRIBS..SPEAK! 07:44, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
Great pictures? They're cell phone pictures. :D Well, not to sound greedy but I'm gonna take both the barnstars. I suck at choosing (I'm seriously like a Canadian Hamlet). Thanks. Buchanan-Hermit™..CONTRIBS..SPEAK! 07:46, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
Alright, I'll keep the fair use rationale thing in mind in the future. Thanks again. :) Buchanan-Hermit™..CONTRIBS..SPEAK! 07:50, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Stress

Why so stressed? :( _-M o P-_ 07:53, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Exams and few major events coming up, nothing wiki based -- Tawker 07:55, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
Well, just don't get too stressed on us ;). Hope you do smashingly well on your exams and major events; cheers! _-M o P-_ 07:56, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

BARNstar

The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
For your Tawkerbot2 for making me curse out loud (again) because it beat me to a vandalism reversion. I've lost count how many times it's made me swear like a sailor now. Just too quick for me. Good stuff! :) Buchanan-Hermit™..CONTRIBS..SPEAK! 08:47, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Your bot ...

... is making incorrect reverts. [2]. Plus it should have a heading on its automated messages to user's talk pages, as the message I got was attached to the bottom of the previous post. Proto||type 09:48, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Sweet. Now I can start vandalising! :) Proto||type 15:38, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Nice Bot

For my personal attacks on your bot I will turn myself in and be suitly emphazi. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 16:02, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Do you ever get messages not about Tawkerbot?

Hey, you've got a lovely bot there. I just noticed this edit [3] (sorry, it's the history that's interesting, not the one diff.) A bunch of edits by a user in a very close range, all of them vandalism, but tawkerbot only reverted one. I don't know if there's anything you can do about this, but would there be a way for it to notice if the IPs were in a close range and put up a "human check this please" flag? Didn't put this on the bot talk page in case that kills the bot, as it does with others. Cheers, Makemi 03:44, 31 March 2006 (UTC)


Redirects

Hello Tawker,

C&P from UtherSRG's talk page: "I just fixed some links and wondered if there is a bot for this. For example, there are more than 500 links that point to "women", although you are redirected from there to "woman"." — Shantris Te'Amdoraja 05:00, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Sure, no problem, Tawkerbot can do that in its sleep. Do you want the Wikilinks to show up as women or woman, either is pretty easy to do. -- Tawker 05:16, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
That's great :) So, the bot can search for [[women]] in articles and automatically turn it into [[woman|women]]? Is it necessary to feed him with the words he has to look for, as men, thief, teenager etc. and the words to redirect to (man, theft, adolescence)? In case it is, is there a list with these words? — Shantris Te'Amdoraja 17:23, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Tawkerbot2

Hi, it seems your bot gave User:Ccel a "test" warning for blanking a page. I would like to request you make a specific message, suited to just page blanking. The message doesn't even say blanking was done, or what article its in reference to. In this case, a user was trying to delete a page s/he made (s/he then AFD'd it). Now, I suspect this is common. So, I suggest telling people why page blanking is wrong, and what are other options there are, and where to go for help. While page blanking is often done malisciously, its often done with very legitimate motives, even if the means is misguided. --Rob 10:32, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Yea, its on my to do list, it should be done sometime soon :) -- Tawker 05:07, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Tawkerbot2 vandalism

Just in case you are interested, Tawkerbot2 wrongly reverted in a way that effectively caused vandalism to Pacific Madrone. I caught it and quickly corrected it, but it illuminates a bug that you might want to fix. (I thought it was pretty funny, actually.) Mlouns 17:10, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

No source tag

Hi Tawker. When tagging an image as "no source" or "no license", please use {{subst:nsd}} or {{subst:nld}}, not {{subst:no source}} or {{subst:no license}}. (The second method breaks the tag, and means the image will never get deleted.) Thanks, dbenbenn | talk 22:07, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Do I still need to give it the dates or does it grab it by itself -- Tawker 07:36, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
Nope, just {{subst:nsd}} will fill in the current date automagically. dbenbenn | talk 07:37, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Something wrong with your bot there

I was not playing with Flemings article... There must be something wrong with your bot.DanielDemaret 22:52, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Tawkerbot2

I highly recommened not using Tawkerbot2 unless your ready to hear more complaints from users. This kind of high speed vandal fighting is not going to be good if the bot can't correctly identify good faith edits from bad faith edits. IMHO, you should leave this up to RC patrollers than a bot. Moe ε 01:29, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Big Red Button

Removed here. — xaosflux Talk 04:10, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

PetPets

This was a false positive. I praise you for running a bot that fights vandals, but PetPets needs to merge to Petpet, already a longer and more well-established article. Therefore, this was not vandalism. Some editors create articles before being made aware of another article of a slightly different spelling, but essentially the same content. --Shultz IV 08:52, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

West Vancouver

Thanks for the note Tawker about West Vancouver. I can't think of anything in particular at this time. But I'll be sure to add it to the article when I do. Keep up the good work! Luke 02:53, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

What?

What do you mean? Did I post something?

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:EKN&redirect=no

Re: Tawkerbot2

This is in response to your reply on my talk page to feedback I left on the bot's talk page.

As for the message left on editors' talk pages, my personal preference leans towards something more technical and less conversational. That lead to my "thanks for experimenting, now frig off" interpretation, because that's how I imagined an innocent aggrieved editor taking the comment when the revert was wrong. FWIW, I'd lean more towards something along the lines of:

Your recent edit of some article was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to recognize and repair vandalism to Wikipedia articles. If you were experimenting, know that everyone really is welcome to contribute, but tests should be done in the sandbox. If the bot reverted a legitimate edit, please accept our apologies – if you bring it to the attention of the bot's owner, we may be able to improve its behavior.

Or something like that. At least that's my 2 cents' worth.

The bot is a great idea in theory. Thanks for all the work you've put into it. But please be careful and very conservative in practice. If you get too ambitious you'll get in trouble, because there is no way that the bot will be ever be able to reliably distinguish between all types of vandalism from good faith edits. Randomly reverting legitimate edits is another form of vandalism, after all! Going for the obvious profanity, scatology, etc., will help a lot, but keep a close eye on it, and leave the rest to us mere mortals. --Kbh3rdtalk 05:29, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

A tawkerbot error

Hi Tawker. I just thought you should know about this revert. The IP address fixed it in the previous edit and your bot reverted it back. I figured that you should know so that hopefully you can prevent this from happening again. I left a message on User talk:80.7.14.231 (the user whose edit was reverted) explaining the misunderstanding. I overall like your bot and I've seen the good that it can do, however, I am a little concerned that mistakes like this will bite newbies and scare them away from future contributions. However, as long as the mistake is caught and is explained to the user, especially if they are a new user, I don't have a problem with it. I am just worried that this won't always be the case. Anyway, thanks for looking into this. --PS2pcGAMER (talk) 10:00, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Ok, thanks, I've made a note of what happened, I'll see what I can do -- Tawker 00:15, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations!

WB would like to nominate you to be an administrator. Please visit Wikipedia:Requests for adminship to see what this process entails, and then contact WB to accept or decline the nomination. A page has been created for your nomination at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Tawker2. If you accept the nomination, you must formally state your acceptance and answer the questions on that page. Once you have answered the questions, you may post your nomination for discussion, or request that your nominator do so.

– WB 21:54, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome. Looking at how it looks right now, I think you may want to considering withdrawing for the exact same reasons as before. Perhaps you should note that your first edit in Wikipedia was in July 2005. – WB 02:09, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

RE: Tawkerbot2

Finishing it, please send to me in lugusto at gmail dot com. Thanks. 555pt | msg | msg on w:pt 01:41, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Your RfA

I've added some questions to your RfA, if you have a minute, I'd appreciate if you would answer them. Thanks. JoshuaZ 01:46, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

If you want grab and answer those too feel free, I won't object to more information to work with (yours seem to be a highly unique and tough decision). JoshuaZ 03:24, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the note. With sheer contribution strength I normally would have gone support/neutral there, just that it there was a large AWB % with minimal research on my part. Stay active on project pages and I'll go support next time if needed. If it comes down to the wire, I may switch to neutral. — xaosflux Talk 04:11, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Please note: I just added a followup question on your RFA. — xaosflux Talk 04:23, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
    • I refactored it, and moved it to the bottom — xaosflux Talk 04:31, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
      • Thanks for the followups, I've moved from oppose to neutral. — xaosflux Talk 01:46, 7 April 2006 (UTC)


Ok, so optional questions (answer any (possibly null) subset you feel like). 6) If you were constructing a level of editor between user and admin, how would they be choosen and what privilages would this new class have? 7) If you could give any normally non-admin ability to all users what would it be? 8) If you can combine 6 and 7, what would you do then? 8) What do you think of WP:BEANS? 9) How do you draw the line between extreme POV pushing and vandalism? 10) Suppose you are closing and AfD where it would be keep if one counted certain that you suspect are sockpuppets/meatpuppets and would be delete otherwise. The RCU returns inconclusive, what do you do? Is you answer any different if the two possibilities are between "no consensus" and "delete"? 11) Do you believe there is a minimum number of people who need to express there opinions in order to reasonably close an AfD? If so, what is that number? What about RfDs and CfDs?

Presumably move whichever you feel like moving over to the RfA and numbering appropriately. I'm going to go to bed now and think about this in the morning. JoshuaZ 04:28, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Well, they've clearly been struck out after I've voted. But I've clarified my vote in light of the changes. Robdurbar 08:07, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
I've added yet another question for you on the rfa. Hope you don't mind but the even more regular appearance of Tawkerbot 2 on my watchlist is making me re-think my vote so I thought I'd interrogate further. Robdurbar 11:04, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

RFA Thanks

Hi Tawker. Thank you for your support vote on my RFA. The final result was a successful request based on 111 support and 1 oppose. Sorry to see the resistance on your current RFA over 'main namespace' edits. That unfortunately happens to alot of users who specialize in a particular area of Wikipedia. Hopefully the request will go through anyway, but if not I'm sure you'll be able to satisfy that one issue and apply again. --CBDunkerson 11:41, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Deleted Edits and Tawkerbot2

I've seen you comment a couple of times about not being able to see deleted edits. While this is possible, edits are really not deleted very often. About the only reasons I can think of for deleting an edit out of an existing page is when it contains personal info from outside WP.

What I would suspect is more likely happening when the bot has warned someone, but you cannot find the revert that was the subject of the revert, is that someone else made the revert before the bot could make it. In this case the bot would have tried to make a duplicate revert, and the duplicate revert would not show up in any edit lists.

In these cases when I need to find the edit that set the bot off, I look at the time stamp of the message, and then go look at the contributions of the "vandal", and look at approx a minute from before the warning. If there's a vandalistic edit there, especially if someone else reverted it almost at once, then yo have likely found the edit that set off the bot. - TexasAndroid 13:04, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Wrong warning

Your recent edit of some article was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to recognize and repair vandalism to Wikipedia articles. If you were experimenting, know that everyone really is welcome to contribute, but tests should be done in the sandbox. If the bot reverted a legitimate edit, please accept our apologies – if you bring it to the attention of the bot's owner, we may be able to improve its behavior. // Tawkerbot2 16:28, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Hey your bot reverts my change which was reverting a vandal. This is the link --Ugur Basak 16:32, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Watch it...

Something happened here with your "AWB": [4] 68.39.174.238 22:01, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Hmm, thats a fairly old subst, the bot was just subst'ing some messages, nothing messed there -- Tawker 02:50, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Redirect

Thanks for fixing that. I was on a public library computer and it was counting down the seconds before my turn was up. Maurreen 02:34, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

My RfA

Hi Tawker. Just a quick note to thank you for your support in my RfA, which recently passed 62/13/6. I will do my very best live up to this new responsibility and to serve the community, but please let me know if I make any mistakes or if you have any feedback at all on my actions. Finally, if there is anything that I can assist you with - please don't hesitate to ask. Cheers TigerShark 03:35, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

RfA

I revised my vote, we need a user who is almost always on IRC to have the block powers of DOOM. +Hexagon1 (talk) 09:06, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Now now, blocks are not "DOOM", they are simply a means of stopping an attack from a user who has chosen not to abide by the policies and procedures of Wikipedia. If it were possible, I rather that nobody would ever have to block anyone but there is a much greater chance of me winning the lottery than that occuring :) -- Tawker 09:14, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
Umm.... I was joking... by the way, I would greatly appreciate if you have any Perl/Python scripts to check who the last editor was, preferably Perl. Cheers! +Hexagon1 (talk) 09:56, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
So, I'm assuming that's a no. :( +Hexagon1 (talk) 02:43, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

oops

I was surprised to see you create WP:AIV/TB2. Surely any title which starts WP: should be a redirect into the Wikipedia: namespace? -- RHaworth 13:37, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Oops, fixed that, thanks for pointing it out :) -- Tawker 16:11, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Re: My major edit summaries

I have received your message. As I vote for or against candidates for administrators, I consider edit summary usage important. What exactly are WikiSin and mathbot?--Jusjih 15:47, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

I just ran the mathbot to check your edit summary usage. It just reported (better) "75% for major edits and 97% for minor edits. Based on the last 68 major and 150 minor edits in the article namespace." Keep up your good edits and you will eventually have my support.--Jusjih 15:59, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Re: Some pretty BC Photos

Ooooh, nice. :) Well, when I return from my semi-Wikibreak, I'll see what I can do with them (if someone hasn't already done anything with them by then). And for the RfA vote, I honestly think you're long overdue for the mop. You've busted your arse for Wikipedia; you totally deserve it. Buchanan-Hermit™..CONTRIBS..SPEAK! 18:37, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Tawkerbot2 bug

I recently beat tawkerbot2 to a revert here, but tawkerbot2 despite assumedly getting an edit conflict, left a message on the user's talk page. Prodego talk 20:51, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

It's done this to me 3 times now. Prodego talk 21:18, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
Its still in the feature que, its a hard one to implement, Joshbuddy and I have been talking about it but its getting there, sorry about that -- Tawker 21:18, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
Good luck fixing that, I have to say I love Tawkerbot2, it is very effective. Prodego talk

New RfA question

I've added a new question to your RfA and would appreciate an answer. Thank you! —Locke Cole • t • c 04:57, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Not a problem; I wasn't expecting an instant response. =) I'll go read it now, but thank you in advance! —Locke Cole • t • c 06:28, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

FYI, RobChurch has added more questions. JoshuaZ 03:00, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Re: When you're done your Wikibreak

Alrighty, I'll get to it this weekend if I can. :) Buchanan-Hermit™..CONTRIBS..SPEAK! 07:30, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

A revert

Hello. Just curious about the edit summary in the bots revert [5] . No problem just curious about it because it usertalk not username, you'll see. Thanks.--Dakota ~ ° 18:32, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Sry for the reply here my bberrys sharedip seems to be blocked. Basically I wanted it not to look like admin rollback, though I could maki it a little cleaner :) -- Tawker 18:56, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

User:TimPope - could someone msg him pls (bberry ip blocked)

Would someone mind leaving him a message asking him if he could post the diffs to the good faith edits tawkerbot2 reverted. He voted oppose on that fact but he has not contacted me about them. I want to fix the problem but I dont know what the bot mistakes are. I'd post but my bberry ip is blocked and I can only edit this page. Thanks Tawker 19:24, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

If you email your IP to me (or post it here), I can unblock you. I left a note for TimPope to look here. NoSeptember talk 19:48, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
Here's one [6] — an admin's revert should not be reverted by a bot. Tim (meep) 19:49, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
Ok, it should not revert admins, I will take a look, this needs to be fixed. I'll have the bot regrab the adminlist, maybe its outdated. Sorry about this -- Tawker 20:50, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Lincoln Kennedy coincidences

The tawkerbot2 reversed a redirect, although perhaps I did things out of sequence. I changed the title of Lincoln-Kennedy coincidences to List of similarities between Abraham Lincoln and John Kennedy, for reasons explained in the Talk/List of similarities between Abraham Lincoln and John Kennedy. I deleted all the information on the Lincoln-Kennedy coincidences page, and left the redirect to the new articles title. All the information is exactly the same. Can you please fix the redirect to over-ride the bot. Thanks. --LibraryLion 20:24, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

No need to revert the bot in this case, see the note I left at User talk:LibraryLion. NoSeptember talk 21:03, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

TransLink (Vancouver)

If you want, I believe I added pics of B-Line buses at 99 B-Line and 98 B-Line. You can rip those off and put it on the TransLink page if you think it looks right. I'd imagine the 98 B-Line pic would be more appropriate though because TransLink has started to "phase out" the old 99 B-Line paint jobs (either turning them into a 98-like look or just a regular "sweep" paint scheme; for bus freaks, look out for buses B8001, B8002, B8012, B8018 for examples, hehe). Buchanan-Hermit™..CONTRIBS..SPEAK! 00:52, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Be careful. The last time I tried taking a pic of a trolley at Granville Mall, I almost got run over! hehe... crazy taxi drivers. Buchanan-Hermit™..CONTRIBS..SPEAK! 01:06, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism on Wikipedia:Introduction

The Introduction is a very high profile page that many first time visitors see. Unfortunately, User:Sandbot is not working correctly on the this page and vandalism has been staying longer. The latest time was a vandal edit at 11:21, 6 April 2006 that did not get reverted until 12:32, 6 April 2006. Is there some way you can have User:Tawkerbot2 help out on this page - the vandalism is simple: users change the first line of the page - or delete it all together - thus breaking the transclusion of the introduction template. If the first line is

{{Please leave this line alone}}

then the page will work fine - the usual editors who monitor the page can remove regular vandalism (nonsense, rude comments, defemation, etc), but removal or change of this line results in the page not working and presents a bad image of wikipedia. Preferrably the first two lines should always be:

{{Please leave this line alone}}
<!-- Feel free to change the text below this line. No profanity, please. -->

Thx in adv Trödel 13:35, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for making working with Josh to test and get Takerbot working on this page. The speed of Tawkerbot's corrections is just incredible. When I tested it, by the time the page reloaded and I clicked history - the vandalism had been removed. My test 11:02, 7 April 2006, the correction 11:02, 7 April 2006. Almost thou persuadest me to vote support. Also appreciate the less than 6kb thank you. Trödel 11:20, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Open proxy?

Regarding my grabbing you on IRC, could you check if 68.87.64.101 (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log) is an open proxy? I've told the guy blocked that it's the connection that's the problem and not him, but if it's clean I'll unblock it and explain to him. If not, eh, he can get a new connection from somewhere :-). Thanks! Shimgray | talk | 16:10, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Image:Red sofa.jpg

No, I'm not 100% sure of the proper tag. I had thought {{PD}} was appropriate, but it now seems that the image should be tagged with {{sxc-warning}} instead. I'm sorry for not getting back with you sooner - I'm not editing Wikipedia regularly anymore. – Quadell (talk) (bounties) 19:19, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

thebot

I was just PMd on some sort of edit I didn't even make, nor have I even looked at the page it was on. I just wanted to mention this, as I don't want to be blamed for something I didn't do.

My name is username is discharger12, btw.

--65.54.154.114 01:53, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Hmm, who is your ISP, the bot saw this which I think you would have to agree looks pretty much like vandalism. It's possible you had a shared IP and someone else made the edit though -- Tawker 01:57, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

question

Can you explain the entry you made on my talk page? Thank you! laurap414 03:48, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick reply!! --laurap414 04:05, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

User:Tawker/Intergated Vandal Count

Er...should that be "Integrated"? It being your page, I didn't want to move it against your wishes... (The userbox is off too, BTW) -- stillnotelf is invisible 04:21, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

WP:100 Cake

Have a slice, its time to celebrate my listing on WP:100 -- Tawker 06:00, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
Have a slice, its time to celebrate my listing on WP:100 -- Tawker 06:00, 7 April 2006 (UTC)


Google Web Accelerator

Andrew, I happen to have administrator access on this Windows computer, so I can indeed turn off the Google Web Accelerator. However, not everyone will be in the same situation -- for example, at work and at school I don't have administrator access and cannot disable it; it will always be ON.

The annoying thing is that I spent all night trying to figure out what was going on instead of editing articles like I wanted. Normally, I don't have this problem since I edit from my Linux laptop which doesn't have GWA. I only ran into the problem tonight because my wife is using the laptop and I came down to use my trusty old Windows desktop.

How do we mark a range of IP addresses to lessen the chances of this happening in the future, the way it was done here: User talk:216.208.8.227. --Stephane Charette 08:00, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

well this is interesting

ins't it?--Chelloru 20:23, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

isn't it?--Fernblogin 20:25, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
  • added a wikilink so you know what the heck I'm talking about--Chelloru 20:31, 7 April 2006 (UTC)


not that you'd actually be able to tell what the heck I'm talking about though, speaking of which, you don't really think I'm sticking beans up my nose? do you?--Fernblogin 20:52, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

I don't have a clue what you're talking about or why it fits on my talk page, so um, its interesting...... -- Tawker 23:49, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

I am sorry

I have seen you around, and have appreciated your contributions... however I just don't feel it is the right time for your RfA. I trust this won't interfere with any interactions we may have in the future, and know that you will make a splendid Admin if your RfA does indeed pass. Just keep up the good work, and everything should be fine. See you around, my friend. I'll be looking for you in class. ;-) --LV (Dark Mark) 01:55, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

How did I sneak into Hogwarts? I'll never teeeeell. ;-) --LV (Dark Mark) 02:05, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

RFA Oppose by Massiveego

Explaination for quick on the draw. From you talk page, I've read the following comments.


""Why did you remove my edit??

what was wrong with my edit?? what was POV about them??

I used the following sources for my edits, mostly with little edits:

Library of Congress - Country Study: Sri Lanka

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Sri_Lanka

are you saying that they are wrong??

I mean on this article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sri_Lanka [edit]


Excuse me?

No sooner than I archived a discussion page as per agreement among that page's contributors, you restored the page. Four days ago, I suggested we archive it before Infinite Crisis#5 comes out this week. Motion was seconded. We gave everybody time to see the suggestion. Not one person objected. On the assumption that you mistook that for vandalism, I will attempt it one more time.Wryspy 07:12, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

No problem. Actually, I was impressed by how quickly the change was noticed, regardless of the error in interpretation. Keep on truckin'.Wryspy 07:21, 9 February 2006 (UTC) [edit]

Warning templates

You threatened to block me for one bad edit in 24 hours which is the truth . You are not an administrator. Get a better handle on warning templates WP:RCP.--196.40.43.218 08:03, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

WP:CIVIL even with vandals maddening though they may be. I will have no more temper fits with any editor admin (which he is) or non admins.--196.40.43.218 08:15, 9 February 2006 (UTC) You didn't offend me. I was just reminding of WP:CIVIL which is always a good idea. Personally I have got a gripe with the dude I took out my frustration on but think I will take it up on his talk from now on. Btw saw an rfa candidate have a hard time over a joke new message box like yours but personally I think it was a good laugh when I opened yours. Take it easy man.-196.40.43.218 08:35, 9 February 2006 (UTC) ""

Basically if three users in a row seem to have a problem, it seems the way the editing got done must be in error. A few moments of thought before each edit would be better to avoid such confrontations in the future. --Masssiveego 03:13, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
See reply on your talk page. I feel obligated to point out that in each case, I have provided an explaination when I screwed up. Can you tell me of one person on this Wiki who has never screwed up. Obviously I'm not going to convince you to change your mind but I think my actions in response to those actions speaks for a lot. I can only hope you will take this additional information into account -- Tawker 03:26, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
While I understand nobody is perfect, I also understand when somebody is not learning from their mistakes. From the above there is a pattern of agitated users. While their problems were solved, having so many of time in a row raises the question, were the edits made too quickly without the right manners? At which point it makes me wonder about WP:civil. While I can understand some feathers do get ruffled, when there are more then three users ruffled, from what appears to be bold but appeared rude action, I'm left to question is this user learning from his mistakes? Or is there something about this user irrating too many users? This possible irratation must be resolved before I reconsider my vote for the next RFA. --Masssiveego 03:42, 8 April 2006 (UTC)


The more 3 messages in a row recently..

Message 1.

""What?

What do you mean? Did I post something?

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:EKN&redirect=no [edit]

Message 2.

Re: Tawkerbot2

This is in response to your reply on my talk page to feedback I left on the bot's talk page.

As for the message left on editors' talk pages, my personal preference leans towards something more technical and less conversational. That lead to my "thanks for experimenting, now frig off" interpretation, because that's how I imagined an innocent aggrieved editor taking the comment when the revert was wrong. FWIW, I'd lean more towards something along the lines of:

Your recent edit of some article was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to recognize and repair vandalism to Wikipedia articles. If you were experimenting, know that everyone really is welcome to contribute, but tests should be done in the sandbox. If the bot reverted a legitimate edit, please accept our apologies – if you bring it to the attention of the bot's owner, we may be able to improve its behavior.

Or something like that. At least that's my 2 cents' worth.

The bot is a great idea in theory. Thanks for all the work you've put into it. But please be careful and very conservative in practice. If you get too ambitious you'll get in trouble, because there is no way that the bot will be ever be able to reliably distinguish between all types of vandalism from good faith edits. Randomly reverting legitimate edits is another form of vandalism, after all! Going for the obvious profanity, scatology, etc., will help a lot, but keep a close eye on it, and leave the rest to us mere mortals. --Kbh3rdtalk 05:29, 2 April 2006 (UTC) [edit]


Message 3.

A tawkerbot error

Hi Tawker. I just thought you should know about this revert. The IP address fixed it in the previous edit and your bot reverted it back. I figured that you should know so that hopefully you can prevent this from happening again. I left a message on User talk:80.7.14.231 (the user whose edit was reverted) explaining the misunderstanding. I overall like your bot and I've seen the good that it can do, however, I am a little concerned that mistakes like this will bite newbies and scare them away from future contributions. However, as long as the mistake is caught and is explained to the user, especially if they are a new user, I don't have a problem with it. I am just worried that this won't always be the case. Anyway, thanks for looking into this. --PS2pcGAMER (talk) 10:00, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Ok, thanks, I've made a note of what happened, I'll see what I can do -- Tawker 00:15, 3 April 2006 (UTC)" ""

Lots of recent mistakes that you can learn from. --Masssiveego 04:42, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Again, every single one of the edits you have provided have been responded in a civl and respectful manner to the satisfaction of the original postee. Some of those were not even complaints and "thanks for looking into this" really doesn't look like a complaint to me. I'd hardly see how they could be classified as mistakes on my part. Are you saying that error reports for an automated bot (for me to take a look at and fix) are fault of myself even when I take steps to correct them. In fact, the 3 posts you've posted as evidence are not even mistakes at all, but I guess I'll just have to accept that you don't want to take a deeper look at what is going on and I won't waste your time any more -- Tawker 05:04, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
(EC)Tawker asked me to comment. I would like to state that I in no way was upset with Tawker, nor did I ever feel that he acted uncivilly towards me. Since I posted that message, he has modified the warning message and I feel that it is now much more friendly in describing that it is an automated bot (even linking to a FAQ) and does make mistakes, but it still makes the point to vandals that if the revert was correct, vandalism will not be tolerated. I don't consider it a mistake of Tawker's when his bot doesn't function correctly 1 or 2% of the time. AFAIK, Tawker is doing his best to fix any errors in the code. If you'll look at the error, it was on an edit that was very unusual as far as the syntax so I wasn't surprised that a bot might mess this up. I have never encounter a program without bugs here and there and with computers, you just accept that there will be bugs and fix them. I don't really see this as a major issue. --PS2pcGAMER (talk) 05:19, 8 April 2006 (UTC)


I noted, it is a tawker bot, hence an extension of your activities. It's tone of the complaints is what concerns me. It is not a waste of my time, as clearly understanding the root of the mistake of rushing a tad too much is creating a mess of mistakes. An unready tawker bot would cause alot of trouble. --Masssiveego 05:14, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Well, nothing the response by PS2pcGAMER above coupled with the responses in the talk page, I have to say that Masssiveego is not taking things into perspective. If the bot was indeed making a "mess of mistakes" it would be blocked. As it obviously isn't (and there was a huge fuss on IRC when it was blocked over the message it leaves) something tells me the bot is doing pretty well. As a percentage of the edits it makes, it is something like 98% accurate, most humans make the odd mistake too. So, while Masssiveego is fully entitled to his opinion (and free to vote whatever he wants based on it), I think the facts pretty clearly speak for themselves -- Tawker 21:30, 8 April 2006 (UTC)


35% contribuation RFA Masssiveego question

Part I'm still waiting for the results of the AfD Mike Murdock article. Part a lack time, I have priorities RFA votes more, and each RFA vote takes alot of time. Part RFA is more important then regular editing, because bad Admins can seriously cause wikistress, and mess things up. --Masssiveego 03:24, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

RFA comment

I hope you didn't take my comment about the difficulty of desysopping personally; my point was just that there's a certain merit in caution in promotion, that doesn't really square with a two month time horizon, and I'm concerned at the increasing haste to promote "good vandal fighters" on those grounds exclusively. I'd be very likely to support in a month or two, if your current RFA isn't successful. Alai 04:17, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Good Bot

Look at this history. How come the bot didn't catch it the second time? CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 07:45, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

See reply on your talk page -- Tawker 07:50, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. Ugh, it just started snowing and now there's a blizzard in the forcast. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 07:54, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
Went home and slept through it. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 05:16, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

RE: IRC, automating WikiMedia/Using Cleanup.

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Sites_using_MediaWiki

Merry christmas. --70.104.147.212 18:08, 8 April 2006 (UTC)


Oops, sorry! Merecat 18:45, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Tawkerbot2

Answered on bot's page. Mak (talk) 19:58, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Cool beans. Good luck on adminship (I hope you get it, but it's not up to me) Mak (talk) 20:00, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Rollback

Hey Tawker,

Just curious, but are you able to use rollback on a vandal just by clicking "revert" from their contributions page, or do you have to go to the specific edit? I'm unable to revert vandals from their contributions page. --Khoikhoi 02:10, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

I have that too, but it doesn't work. Does your monobook just have rollback? I think it would be a good idea for me to copy it. --Khoikhoi 02:21, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. :) --Khoikhoi 02:23, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
Wait, what's "function speedy(type)", "function disambig()", etc.? --Khoikhoi 02:24, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
Ok, I copied the stuff from your monobook, but when I try to revert from someone's contributions I get a message that says "Last editor is (anon), not Log!". What should I do? --Khoikhoi 18:54, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

A Tawkerbot request

*poke* When you get a moment, please check out User:Tawkerbot#Image:Utah_state_flag.png_to_Image:Flag_of_Utah.svg. Thanks Admrb♉ltz (T | C | k) 02:14, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

West Vancouver cite request

Hi Tawker. Replying to your question on my talk page... Of course; use the census ref I added as much as possible. The citeneeded tag I added was specifically aimed at the claim about upper management. Cheers. --Ds13 04:14, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Congrats

I hear your rfa has been closed- congratulations!--Adam (talk) 04:28, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

From me too! Jude (talk,contribs,email) 04:29, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes, congrats! --PS2pcGAMER (talk) 04:29, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Congrats. I have however questioned the circumstances of your promotion at WT:RFA, given the last nine hours of your nom were blacked out by the outage. NSLE (T+C)(seen this?) at 04:37 UTC (2006-04-10)

Oh, for God's sake. Linuxbeak (drop me a line) 04:45, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
Tawker, you should enjoy being at the center of a controversy again ;-), I mean they ain't gonna take your adminship away. I for one appreciate bureaucrats that make decisions, thats what we hire them for. And I would say that had he decided it the other way too. Good job, Linuxbeak. NoSeptember talk 04:48, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations, I hope mine succeeds like yours! :-) Jedi6-(need help?) 04:44, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Come on, NSLE. He would have passed anyway. SushiGeek 05:03, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
Would he really have? At 77/78% ish (would have gone up with more supports/down with more opposes) it'd have been crat's call. Example, say Linuxbeak chose to extend it nine hours and another crat came in and decided it was no consensus? NSLE (T+C)(seen this?) at 05:15 UTC (2006-04-10)
Well, I was just curious, it was down for 6 and 1/4 hours according to Rob Church, I'm pretty sure it wasn't closed until after that time had elapsed. I did actually ask if people wanted to extend it, and I was told it was the discretion of the 'crat. I really don't know what would have happened if it was extended but unbarring someone campaigning against chances are it would stay in the same range. Either way, the decision has been made. Ironically I think I'm on record as saying of those last few support votes (that came in after the servers came back) were not counted and they caused a failure, I would have been saying the same thing in another context. I really don't see any advantage in debating any further over it, I really did take steps to avoid controversy (asking Essjay not to close this one as of the IRC ties) so I guess that's what happens when you can't be god and control everything :o -- Tawker 05:27, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

You are now an admin!

I would just like to take a few kilobites and thank everyone for voting, if there's anything I can do for you, feel free to leave me a message! -- Tawker 04:48, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Congrats! Even though you already know this, you are now an admin. I suggest you read Wikipedia:Administrators reading list for guidance. Otherwise... good job, and welcome to the cabal! ;-) Linuxbeak (drop me a line) 04:30, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Hearty congrats, I mean you would have passed next month anyway, but why not make you an admin now? Although if you had to do it a second time, you could have challenged Can't sleep for the record ;-). But you have work to do, so congrats. NoSeptember talk 04:32, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Hey, congratulations! It was a close one, but I'm familiar with those :-P So nice work! Cyde Weys 04:32, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Congrats! I've got the honor of sending you your first block ([7] for the record)! ⇒ SWATJester Ready Aim Fire! 04:37, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Congrats! Erm... I guess I'd better behave myself even more than normal, huh? ;) Buchanan-Hermit™..SCREAM!!!.... 04:42, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Congrats!!!! Finally, now that you are an admin, we can execute Operation Wikitakedown and unleash the full horrible might of Tawkberbot2 upon these unsuspecting simpletons! I, uh, mean, um, congrats, way to go. joshbuddytalk 04:45, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Dude! Congratulations! Mak (talk) 04:47, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations! I was upset seeing this number of "oppose, to recent" and I am glad it turned out all right. Please don't waste time leaving me a thank you on my talk. Cheers, --Irpen 04:49, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Felicitaciones, señor. :) --Khoikhoi 04:51, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Congratz! Party on Tawker's talk page! Admrb♉ltz (T | C | k) 04:54, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

WOOHOO!--Shanel 05:02, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations. Even though I haven't interacted with you before, I've seen your bot on my watchlist many, many times, and I most certainly appreciate what it and you are doing, and certainly how difficult it is to get right. From one software engineer to another. :) — TKD::Talk 05:56, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

if there's anything I can do for you .... yeah, I have a few thousand userboxen to delete, could I get you to take care of them? Thanks. --Cyde Weys 06:00, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations from the land of winter. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 06:31, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

  • Congrats! – WB 06:49, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Congratulations! — nathanrdotcom (T • C • W) 07:06, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations to an adminship well-deserved! ~ PseudoSudo 09:04, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Congrats! You deserve this and good luck for the future! --Siva1979Talk to me 15:27, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

  • I guess I'm late to the party, but congraulations on your new mop and bucket. - Cheers, Mailer Diablo 01:41, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
Well, what can I say (with an I told-you-so look), you got the mop! Congratulations... --Andy123(talk) 10:04, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Cake

Cake for everyone to celebrate! -- Tawker 04:57, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
Cake for everyone to celebrate! -- Tawker 04:57, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

List of people who have had a slice

  • Tawker 05:02, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Irpen 05:10, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Cake is too new, maybe in a month or two. NoSeptember talk 05:14, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
  • joshbuddytalk 05:15, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Oppose, not enough frosting. Linuxbeak

(drop me a line) 05:17, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

  • Oppose, too much frosting. ;) Congrats, Tawker! --Firsfron 17:34, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete, it's chocolate. Jude (talk,contribs,email) 05:19, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
    Troll from wikt. Please ignore him. joshbuddytalk 05:21, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
    I reject the implication that my comments are trolling and would like to shed light on Joshbuddy's low edit count (only 1622!) Jude (talk,contribs,email) 05:24, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
    Its not the number of edits, its how you use them. Have you used your edits for good, or for awesome? joshbuddytalk 05:42, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Speedy Delete per Jude. Mike (T C) 05:20, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Extreme chocolatey support. Long live chocolate.--Shanel 05:22, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Oppose. This cake does not have enough page moves. Mmm, tastycake. :-9 Can't sleep, clown will eat me 05:40, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Foodcruft. Merge into my stomach, then cleanup afterwards. — TKD::Talk 05:54, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Neutral; I'm not sure how many Weight Watchers points are in Wikicake? Joe 05:55, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Speedy hurl... That's what you get when you consume ice cream, pork, oranges, Big Macs, yogurt, beef, Pepsi, donuts, fries, chicken, eggs and steak within one hour... Buchanan-Hermit™..SCREAM!!!.... 05:56, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Speedy Keep Eat mmmm...chocolate.. — nathanrdotcom (T • C • W) 07:09, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Overturn and relist on CfD, though the folk on Wikipedia:Cakes for Deletion have lately been keeping everything that appears there; I suppose I'll just take a few kilobites before sending it over. ~ PseudoSudo 08:40, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
  • This is the only list item with a straight answer: "Yes". Ironically, this is merely a list of people and should not have a straight answer, or any other comment. // Pathoschild (admin / talk) 00:42, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
  • jacoplane has a slice, hoping there are no nuts in here! GASP .... (spastic noises)
  • Why would I possibly want a piece? It's over 80 years old. Unless that thing is a Twinkie Cake, I'm sure it's shelf life is shot. Sorry, oppose. --LV (Dark Mark) 02:56, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Hello... time machines! Duh! --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 05:31, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
  • This brings to mind episode 174 of Seinfeld (for which we don't have an article...quelle dommage), in which Elaine, having eaten a slice of cake that turns out to have been from the Edward VIII-Wallis Simpson wedding, must replace the cake with an Entenmann's. Joe 05:50, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
Stuffs himself Yum! --Andy123(talk) 10:05, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
I'll just sneak in, have a piece, and maybe be too rude to offer the host congratulations on his adminship. I'm just here for the food. JoshuaZ 18:18, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Your answer to my question on your RfA

Bravo, made me laugh, you'll do well as an admin. Others might have seen my question as trolling, vandalism, or inappropriate, but you saw it as a scartastic joke (as i intended). Mike (T C) 05:19, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

For all who voted

Feel free to include

The Minor Barnstar
For taking time to vote in a Request for Adminship, it's a minor thing that helps keep this site ticking. Oh, and yes, it passed :) Tawker 06:14, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

In your user / talk / awards page. I've been told the devs will kill me if I use up all of that diskspace doing this on everyone's page :) - so one big barnstar here :) -- Tawker 06:14, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

{{subst:The Minor Barnstar|For taking time to vote in a Request for Adminship, it's a minor thing that helps keep this site ticking. Oh, and yes, it passed :) [[User:Tawker|Tawker]] }}

Thanks

The Minor Barnstar
For taking time to vote in a Request for Adminship, it's a minor thing that helps keep this site ticking. Oh, and yes, it passed :) Tawker

/ I'm leaving this here, but you're welcome for thanking me for voting for you. Also, talk about barnstar inflation, a barnstar just for voting in an RFA? :-O ~~~~

Barnstar inflation RULZ. :) Buchanan-Hermit™..SCREAM!!!.... 06:27, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Tawkerbot and Wikipedia:Introduction

I just noticed that the introduction was blanked(http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Introduction&diff=47752570&oldid=47752464 10 Apr 04:18]) for about two hours(10 Apr 06:16. Can you check to make sure Tawkerbot2 (I believe) is still monitoring that page. TIA Trödel 06:21, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Ciphertext for you


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One more message for you:


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Galiano Pic's

Thanks, I'm kind of an amateur, just got a new camera a couple months ago. I'm just trying to get my bearing's on Wikipedia as I may be more of a contributor in the near future.

And about Wikipedia Commons, the last time I attempted uploading a picture onto the commons it seemed to be very complicated. I don't knwo if I'm dellusional or what! Any help with such things would be greatly appreciated. As you can see I contributed more to the Galiano article in terms of text. I intenend to do more as I know quite a bit about the Island as I have been going there every summer for my whole life. Gfrankson 21:05, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Re: BNS Vandalism

Thanks, I believe students are messing around at school, I think it would be best to block them anyway....i think its been done to some computers already anyway. If a lot more happens i'll contact you, thanks. Alex anaya 06:54, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Hispanic

I'm not sure what you mean. Would you like to post your message again on my talk page. Al-Andalus 07:29, 10 April 2006 (UTC).

I was in the process of moving that content up the page a few sections. One second away from doing it before you reverted. It's still there. Al-Andalus 07:37, 10 April 2006 (UTC).

RFA congratulations

I'm late, I know. I went ahead and unblocked that one guy (you know). Probably wouldn't have held water anyway. But the fact remains he's a frigging troll, so, whatever. — Apr. 10, '06 [09:55] <freakofnurxture|talk>

Tawkerbot2's Server

Went down (ahhhhhhhhhh) - I'm working on it but its taking a little time -- Tawker 06:23, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Thx - and good luck getting it up again. Trödel 11:02, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
PS - congratulations on your RfA - go forth and do good everywhere ;) - Trödel 11:10, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Should be up Real Soon Now™ joshbuddytalk 06:46, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi Tawker! First, congratulations on the mop and broom. Second, thanks for the note on the scanner. I'm not sure what is up with those Saudi IPs--they seem to be part of a range but I don't know if security is still compromised there or not (obviously it was a month ago since squidward was able to use several of them). I unblocked two of the IPs as a courtesy to the person who posted to the noticeboard. Cheers! Antandrus (talk) 14:25, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

It's about time!

Finally! I was wondering how long it would take for you to become an admin. :) --69.145.122.209 23:09, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the unblock of 125.236.44.45. Brian | (Talk) 01:05, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Yep I'll do it :), um I have a Windows Machine, matter? Brian | (Talk) 01:19, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
Okay, cool, I'll still give it a go :) Brian | (Talk) 01:27, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

"Give me five on the soul side"

Well, I've added another quote and three more references to the entry on Wiktionary for a total of two quotes and five references. Are you convinced yet that it is a real expression?--Primetime 05:58, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. No one on Wiktionary has admitted the same. However, it looks as if no one is restoring it. Since it is still going through an RFV, could you restore it? All you would have to do is unprotect the page and copy the entry I posted on Wiktionary:WT:RFV into it.--Primetime 18:12, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Check this out...

Hi Tawker! How's it going? Check out the history of this article. I think there might have been a false positive. Take a real close look :-) --HappyCamper 22:45, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

FIPS Place code deletions are not vandalism

I have been told the sub pages for FIPS Place code constitute (1) pages that are too big; (2) non-encyclopedic content; (3) original material. None of which I agree with, but since people don't want my content here, I am marking it for removal. I'm sick and tired of trying to make this encyclopedia better when my contributions are unwanted. So I'm removing the contributions in order to solve the problem.

I am marking the pages for deletion due to the disagreement as I have decided to get rid of the objections by getting rid of the pages. This is not vandalism, these pages have been dereferenced and I am marking them for deletion since people don't want them around.

Thanyou

Thankyou dearly Tawker for assisting with my block troubles.

The Jazzter of Righteousness
For adhering to moral principles, I award you this Jazzter. Congradulations, √αʑʑρεɾ

You shall forever be a friend of mine. - √αʑʑρεɾ 02:52, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

70.174.26.71 Vandalism

User 70.174.26.71 is constantly vandalizing German as a minority language. I've reverted it a few times but 70.174.26.71 continues. I've already given 70.174.26.71 warnings. Please look into this matter ASAP.—GH 03:04, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

As of now, 70.174.26.71 seems to be temporarily blocked.—GH 03:12, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
lol :P—GH 03:14, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

142.22.16.58

Hello. I saw in the block log that you are sometimes on this IP. That is why I only did a 3 hour block. I just wanted to stop the immediate vandalism, since the vandal was ignoring the warnings. I'll probably go for an even shorter block the next time I see this. -- JamesTeterenko 03:44, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for unblocking me. You know, my opinion is that Wikipedia should not do IP blocks. This is because, yes, very often, many different people share a computer. If one of these people vandalizes, in this case my brother, everybody else who uses that computer will also be blocked (if it is an IP block, that is). But once again, thanks. FLaRN2005 (talk) 12:50, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Congrats

You are a classy guy, Tawker. Thanks for the barnstar, and please accept my congratulations on being made an admin. Please feel free to drop me a note or call on me if you ever need anything. --Krich (talk) 17:18, 12 April 2006 (UTC)


A public challenge: Can someone make a copyright problems bot?

As an admirer of your Tawkerbot for dealing with vandalism, I wanted to bring your attention to a comment I've made at Administrators Noticeboard. To sum up, there is always a massive backlog at Wikipedia:Copyright_problems. The reason I know that no other admins like working this page is because the work is incredibly tedious, resulting in a two-week backlog. Very few of the copyright problems on the page require any insight--they are blatant violations with the original url in the copyright violation template. Because of this, I'm challenging everyone who has made a Wikipedia bots to see if someone can create a bot that would examine pages with the {{subst:article-cv|Article Title Here}}, compare the copy on the page with the link to the supposed original page, and then either delete the article if there is a match or remove the copyright violation template if there isn't. Any articles that are not a close match could be left for a human admins to examine. However, if the bot could catch most of the 80-90% of copyright violations that are extremely blatent, we admins would be able to get a handle on this extremely important issue. As an incentive, I will publically award a "Grand Poo-Bah of Bot Designers" award to the first person who creates a workable copyright violation bot. Any thoughts on this? If so, feel free to make them at Administrators Noticeboard. Best, --Alabamaboy 00:18, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks again

Thanks Tawker. I appreciate the speed with which you responded to my request. Now that I've reviewed the history on Religious conversion I can see why my IP was suspect. Pierre 209.68.1.229 04:08, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Indents

Dear Tawker,

This is a relatively minor issue and I'm somewhat embarrassed to ask the question, but is there a reason you often over-indent your replies to others' messages? I've noticed that sometimes your replies are even indented almost to the center of the page when replying to a post with just a single indent/bullet. I'm all for individuality and such where signatures, message styles etc are concerned, but this particular habit is hard to overlook because it makes it very confusing to follow a thread in extended discussions. Please look into this. Thanks —Encephalon 08:04, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Delete

Hi Tawker, here's a few more that could warrant from the speedy delete process: sex kitten, rufaro, Ross (Anglo-Cantonese slang), reniform, Ravestar. --Dangherous 09:38, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

TawkerbotC

I just didn't like the rather presumptive manner the thread was proceeding in, with one editor offering to sweep any objections under the carpet, and then a new account specifically for being a copyvio bot. It's really not a great idea to do this kind of thing by bot; particularly not to handle deletions that way. We'd only find a heap of people on DRV complaining that their 'hard' work had been eaten alive by some automated process that was unable to provide an explanation. Now, at least, we can seek an intelligent explanation of why an action was done. Anyway, there is a significant amount of opposition on ANI now, and I imagine that for now is enough to squelch the idea of doing this by bot. -Splashtalk 11:02, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Splash, please see my comment on the admin noticeboard. As I said there, my reference to combative editors was meant to refer to people who insult instead of discuss and that it did not refer to anyone in the discussion. My apologies for not being more precise and for any insult you saw in my statement. Also, I have no intention to be the "one editor offering to sweep any objections under the carpet." As I've already said in the discussion, since there is strong opposition to any bot deleting articles then we should not allow that to happen. However, if a bot could allow a human admin to more easily deal with the large backlog on the copyright problems page, while still leaving the ultimate decision to delete up to the human admin, then I think that would be useful to have. Best,--Alabamaboy 13:38, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
I replied on your talk page. -Splashtalk 14:11, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
Hmm. You mean the ones that make pgkbot et al. go "ping"? Simply being a large page does not make it at all worthy of a bot-placed "are you breaking the law?" tag. If the bot could also point to a page that it might be copying then, yeah, maybe. But as pointed out on AN, the non-intrusive way to do this would be to tag the talk page, rather than the article, and anyway have a human come along and verify the violation before listing it on WP:CP for deletion. It doesn't seem like much would be achieved by that, apart from the creation of a backlog of un-humaned, bot-tagged articles to go with the backlog of undeleted violations. Now you must be thinking I hate bots by now. I don't. I just think that they need to have a good rationale to be brought into service and should otherwise be left unplugged. -Splashtalk 15:03, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
I hate to say this, but I'm not sure having a bot search new pages for suspected copyright violations would help much. This part of the process work pretty well using human editors, who catch a good number (if not most) of the blatent violations. If a bot started doing this then we'd still have the problem of a large backlog of copyright problems which admins would have to deal with (and the backlog would be even greater since the bot would be adding to the backlog). The problem with the copyright backlog comes after human editors have tagged a page as a suspected copyright violation. Not that I'm opposed to a bot helping to find more violations, I'm just not sure it would help the backlog any and might even make the backlog worse. Best,--Alabamaboy 15:48, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
BTW, for what it's worth my experience with copyright violations has shown a strong, and obvious, correlation between new users and copyright violations (because of this I try to leave messages on their talk pages welcoming them and also letting them know that the article had to be deleted b/c of copyright concerns and inviting them to rewrite the article in their own words). While I occasionally catch a new large article being a copyright violation, most of the time the violations occur in articles in the 800 to 2000 byte range. There is also a strong correlation between linkspam and copyright violations, with companies using copy from their own websites to try and make a linkspam article seem like a legit article. These articles are usually also not notable.--Alabamaboy 15:53, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Question 5

"How would you respond to users who argue that your work has been almost exclusively in vandal fighting(even the article which you are most proud of you only have 14 edits, most of which are adding pictures) and that this lack of constructive (rather than anti-destructive) edits gives them reservations about making you an admin?" Probably needs fixing in your "canned set" as not every RfA candidate has only 14 edits... Hope that helps! ++Lar: t/c 11:37, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Bot request

If it's not already on the bot list, please add KISS (band). This seems to be a popular target for vandals. Thanks! --cholmes75 20:18, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Title of the anti vandal channel

Tawker, can I ask a favour? The ign...no, mustn't bite them, they are shiny new, in the IRC antivandal channel were not able to put a note in the title of the channel asking the admins who frequent it to release the CAT:SEMI entries. Many of the protections originate in there, and they aren't getting released. I was given a bunch of patronising "oh darling, have you heard of AWB and templates?" responses. I wonder if you might be so good as to club them over the...no....add a little note to the title bar for me? -Splashtalk 01:34, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

The Barnstar

The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
"Tawkerbot2 has been a great thing on Wikipedia. When I am on RC patrol, I sometimes race against it to post warnings! I usually lose! Jonathan235 02:01, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Blocking proxies...

How are you blocking the proxies? Some of the blocks are repeated, and done in quick sucession...Just wondering... --HappyCamper 06:18, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

If it's easy to do, could you slow down the frequency of the blocks? :-) It's sort of making it harder to find out which blocks were made earlier by other users. There was a similar bot operated by another administrator before you arrived, although I can't recall the name at the moment. If I find it again, I'll let you know - there were some pretty interesting ideas you might find to be fun to implement. --HappyCamper 06:29, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
Actually, I must say that well...the first time I read your post, I thought there would be 2000 consecutive blocks! But actually, now that I go back and check I suppose it isn't so bad. The old proxybot did something similar, but created pages and pages of blocks which rended the block log practically useless. I did notice some numbers might be good for lottery tickets though...Anyway, sorry about the bother. See you around! --HappyCamper 06:34, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

62.128.202.55

Port 80 worked perfectly as an open proxy on 62.128.202.55. I could test the rest of the links here if you want? Your scan did reveal Port 80 as open right? Ansell 07:48, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Results of my own NMAP scan


Starting Nmap 4.01 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2006-04-14 17:14 EST
Interesting ports on 62-128-202-55.iomart.com (62.128.202.55):
(The 65522 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
PORT     STATE    SERVICE
21/tcp   open     ftp
22/tcp   open     ssh
25/tcp   filtered smtp
53/tcp   open     domain
80/tcp   open     http
110/tcp  open     pop3
135/tcp  filtered msrpc
139/tcp  filtered netbios-ssn
443/tcp  open     https
445/tcp  filtered microsoft-ds
1720/tcp filtered H.323/Q.931
1863/tcp open     unknown
5190/tcp open     aol

Nmap finished: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 1815.342 seconds
BTW, I would be interested in being involved in the Open proxy project. I have been fully active for two months now. I have vandalism {{subst:test}} tags on my page due to my efforts to keep consensus material on the Jehovah's Witnesses pages, not because I have intentionally vandalised pages. If that still puts me outside of the requirements then its okay. I will continue to verify using Nmap and Firefox on my computer. It would be so much easier to have a server to do the scans for me. I don't know how reliable the webservers verification's are :) as shown above by the false negative. Browser proxy settings work fine for me so far. Tell me what you think when you get back from your wikibreak! Have a good one, Ansell 22:39, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Just so you know...

Hi,

Since you popped in on my conversation with Linuxbeak, I do want you to know that my opposition is not personal at all, and I'm sure you'll make a fine admin. For my own reasons, I tend to vote conservatively on RfA's, and many folks I've opposed have gone on to great adminships, proving that I'm mostly nuts. :) Best wishes and good luck!, Xoloz 05:29, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

My talk page

since when was there a rule that dictates what i can and CANNOT do on MY OWN talk page?

also, what's it to you? Drmagic 22:55, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

This is getting ridiculous

We need to have RandiRice blocked. The Flattbush article keeps getting vandalized. It's been well over 20 times that they have blanked out the entire thing, not to mention the vandalising that they do. It's time to ban them from wikipedia. P.S. The flattbush should stay up they have no right to get it pulled. They only want to lie to the public and create a false "triumphant"Communist image, when it could not be further from the truth and in actuality, the oppressive, exploitative ideals of Marxism should be out there and not hidden by any means. Let's begin to consider banning them.Stabinator 04:44, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm on a 56k dialup roaming connection for the next four days, I'll give the username a 24 hour block, that is getting a little crazy after warnings and their contribs do seem to be mostly vandalism. Please let me know if he starts after the block expires, I'm only on for an hour a day for another 4 days so I might be a little slow responding WP:AIV might be a better bet -- Tawker 04:54, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
Will do. Have a great time, we'll take care of this after Easter, and Thanks for your help...Happy Easter.Stabinator 16:56, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

wikibooks vandalism bot

The bot appears to be massivley out of synch on its rc feed compared to computer4 (ive confirmed computer4 to be in synch maunally), i suspect it may need its static config tweaking as i suspect its reciving a wrong feed (are both static configs set right/exactly the same this often causes the problems after the rc feed crash) from somewhere, ive quieted it for now until you can have a look at it and set computer4 to speak Benon 07:47, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

joshbuddy has reset it and it appears to have fixed it, ill keep computer4 around just in case Benon 08:00, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Timeline of labor issues and events -- wrongly reverted

I received the notice "Your recent edit to Timeline of labor issues and events was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to recognize and repair vandalism to Wikipedia articles. If the bot reverted a legitimate edit, please accept our apologies – if you bring it to the attention of the bot's owner, we may be able to improve its behavior..." My edit was not vandalism. Please read the edit summary. I just added sub-headings to specify the countries in which the issue or event occurred. I see you won't be back until Tuesday. Maybe I'll look into what that big shut off button is about. Seems it wouldn't be that easy to shut off the bot, but I'll see. -Barry- 02:35, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

It appears someone has fixed it for you, thats a tricky one to figure out, 99.9% of the time an edit like that occurs its vandalism but yours was good. Sorry about the bot being a little hard to shutdown, don't want vandals being able to kill the vandal fighter :) -- Tawker 06:52, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Happy Spring celebration / Easter (as your preferences and beliefs dictate)

It's bunny time - Happy Easter Tawker! (I recommend a tall glass of cold beer to help the chocolate go down). --Alf melmac 16 April 2006
It's bunny time - Happy Easter Tawker! (I recommend a tall glass of cold beer to help the chocolate go down). --Alf melmac 16 April 2006
Here's hoping that if the bunny leaves you any beans they're this kind! ++Lar: t/c 14:56, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
Here's hoping that if the bunny leaves you any beans they're this kind! ++Lar: t/c 14:56, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
Moe is here to say Happy Easter! -- Moe ε 18:56, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
Moe is here to say Happy Easter! -- Moe ε 18:56, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Solanum

hey, sorry for getting back to you so late. Thank you for correcting my error. The reason I made that error was because I made my Wikipedia account just to add Solanum so I didnt really know what I was doing. I also, correctly may I say, linked Solanum (virus) on the disambiguation page to its article.

WikiProject on open proxies

Hi Tawker. I'd like to help out with this project. What do I need to do to get involved? Thanks TigerShark 16:59, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. When I click scan on the example, it prompts me for a username and password. I have tried my Wikipedia username and password, but it doesn't seem to work. Am I doing something wrong? Cheers TigerShark 07:11, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
Hi again. I'm not sure if you tried emailing me yet, but it looks like the email isn't working (I have tried sending a couple of messages to myself - which haven't arrived). The email address is correct so I am not sure what is wrong, I left it a few days to see if they was some kind of email backlog but no joy. I don't suppose you're aware of any problems with email are you? I'll investigate further and will let you know when I can receive them. Cheers TigerShark 01:13, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
OK, I've got it working now (by using a different address). Would you mind resending? Cheers TigerShark 01:27, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
Yes it came through thanks. I'm off to bed now, but will experiment a bit tomorrow. Thank again TigerShark 02:23, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Master Jay's RfA

Andrew, thanks for your support at my recent RfA. If you have any concerns, leave a note here. Thanks --Jay(Reply) 00:49, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Buddha

heh? penis? hmmmm, I was copy editing large amount of text from other articles so I might have missed a valdalism. Anyway, I've done my edit so no problem. Have a nice sleep. :) Vapour

Yikes...

That's like fifty questions... (I didn't really count, but I'm sure it's somewhere around there ;-))!!! I'll take a peek and answer what I can. Thanks for taking an interest. --LV (Dark Mark) 21:38, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Well, after two days of typing, I finally managed to answer all of your questions. :-) You may not like all the answers, but I figured it would be better to let people know where I stand upfront. Hopefully they make sense. --LV (Dark Mark) 20:32, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

School IP

Regarding this edit, I believe that the IP should not be unblocked but should instead be indefinitely banned. It is the IP for a school, and kids at that school can still read Wikipedia just fine for research if they must, and if they want to edit, nothing is preventing them from creating a username and editing with that. If you unblock the IP or let the block expire, some students will make constructive edits; however, vandalism from others will strongly outweigh the positive contribs, and the IP will inevitably be blocked again. I also strongly discourage contacting school or school system IT. Another use already tried to and received no response. In fact, I know why he received no response. I have had first-hand experience with both the school and county IT and they are all (no offense meant to anyone) complete and utter morons. If you want, I can even send you letters written by them that prove how inept they are at everything technological, but I'd prefer not to because they are, shall I say, a bit sensitive. I could always give you quotes or an image with some text blacked out. --M@thwiz2020 23:54, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Well, 550 hasn't been fixed yet so they would be restricted to editing at home. I do agree that schools have a LOT of vandalism, I guess I was just trying to AGF and allow a good faith user upon request. I hear you with respect to school IT staff, most have no idea what a proxy server is let alone how to monitor WP access. Oh well, its a fact of life I guess -- Tawker 23:59, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
Oh, I didn't know you can't edit with a username from a blocked IP because, well, I never did anything to get my IP blocked :) What's the 550 error? I assume that's what doesn't allow you to edit from a blocked IP even with a username. That should stop a lot of vandals who vandalize with an IP and then try to with a username but can't because their IP is blocked. If only it worked the other way, too - once your username is blocked, your IP can't create more usernames. That would stop a lot of vandal socks. --M@thwiz2020 00:04, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Mass edits

It's my opinion, new users could feel rather confused about Wikipedia. I feel the newbies could use a welcome, and let them know about Wikipedia. I highly recommand trying to meet new users this way. Masssiveego 04:35, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Motherload Goldium Edition

Just spent some time cleaning up Motherload Goldium Edition, which you'd marked with a "prod", mostly so as not to bite a new user. Now it's a decent article for a game. Then I looked at the game website, and discovered that the game is a Flash clone of Namco's Dig Dug, circa 1982. It even looks 1982. It really wasn't worth an article. Cleanup was a waste of my time. There's no real reason to delete it now, although if someone were to do so, I wouldn't miss it. --John Nagle 18:35, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Blocked

I was blocked but my block ended today. I was blocked under a user name I created for the intention of creating a page. 75.3.4.54 23:34, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

It was AR and a bunch of random numbers. 75.3.4.54 23:38, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

I am already unblocked, it's oaky. Thanks for the help though. 75.3.4.54 23:58, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

West Vancouver

Ahh, figures. I never really venture down there.

Michael J. Easley

Image:WikiThanks.png Thanks for the help. ...Scott5114 00:59, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

187combat

The 187combat page was recreated again, after you had deleted it twice. Page protection might be in order. Bige1977 04:03, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Masssiveego's 24 hour RFA time limit

Theses test question demonstrates several attributes. Even if they have a life outside of Wikipedia, it is quite rude not to inspect you own RFA. If the user in question is obviously on Wikipedia, and gave no regards to the rfa, to me, the person is not admin material. Masssiveego 04:55, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

AIV

Thanks! -- Samir (the scope) धर्म 07:02, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Galinda Hobsquatch AfD

Hi, you removed the AfD notice from the page Galinda Hobsquatch and replaced it with a {{prod}}. I was just wondering why? --blue520 07:37, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Oops, I was clearing out the speedy deletes and I think I thought someone subst'ed in the speedy template. Thanks for putting the AfD back, I'm leaning towards delete but I didn't think it was CSD A7 'able -- Tawker 14:36, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
I presumed something like that, but thought to ask just in case I was missing something. I also can't see a strong argument for CSD A7, any way by the looks of it not speedy deleting it will not do any harm and it give people a chance to make something good out if it (may not possible though).--blue520 16:04, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Race

Your bot reverted my edit to Race. Based on the discussions we had in Talk:Race I was restoring the section entitled "Human genetic variation" until it could be summarized. Could go in there and put the section back together or somehow modify the bot so I can do that myself? Thanks, AucamanTalk 18:43, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

My name...

Yeah, like I was telling Dragon's Blood, I think as long as I am not trying to pass myself off as the real Lord Voldemort (which I'm not... obviously), and since I am in no way profiting from the name, I am probably in the clear. Thanks for doing the research on the trademark sites. See ya. --LV (Dark Mark) 21:43, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Speedy deletes

Hi Tawker! Congrats on being given the keys to the caretaker's cupboard/janitor's closet! This evening you've speedy deleted a couple of articles that were on AfD. Whilst they were all suitable for speedy deletion (ie, wrong for AfD) you didn't close the AfDs behind you. I've done them for you. Cheers! ➨ ❝REDVERS❞ 21:46, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Not at all pretending in any way that I know what I'm doing, BTW - I still have to follow carefully the instructions at Wikipedia:Deletion process as the information just won't stick in my head! ➨ ❝REDVERS❞

IP Ranges

Hi could you perhaps undelete http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Onthost/IP_Ranges I was using it about a month ago to quickly reference the impact of range blocked placed by a newbie admin and felt it would be a good quick ref in the future. It was never intended to be an article, but rather to analyise range blocks. Mike (T C) 22:46, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Moved text to a subpage of your user page -- Tawker 23:26, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, it was never really intended for anyone elses eyes excpet mine, I am not even sure how the person found it! Keep up the good work man, and thanks for the bot! Mike (T C) 23:31, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
Oh shoot! I didnt realize it was under Onthost/IP Ranges!!! I thought it was under User:Onthost/IP Ranges!!! WOW I feel like a dumbass! Mike (T C) 23:32, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

User:Jaranda

I unblocked upon IRC request because the 3RR was invoked removing a copyvio image and hence not falling under 3RR, I hope thats ok with you -- Tawker 00:02, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Yep, that's fine. Thanks for dropping the line. Stifle (talk) 00:06, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Request

Hi Tawker,

Would you be able to block someone for violation of the 3RR for me? I was going to ask you if the following is valid:

1st revert, 2nd, 3rd, 4th.

Thanks. —Khoikhoi 05:22, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

RfD

Could you take care of this? Teke 05:47, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Meh, it's better with bread. Teke 05:54, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
Thought I put the ;) in there. Teke 05:59, 21 April 2006 (UTC)


adminning

Thanks for the vote of support :) It's funny, there are things I would quite like to be an admin right now for, notably deleting stuff from the massive copyvio backlog, or carrying out prods. Vandal fighting doesn't interest me much. But yeah, if it's going to take 6000 edits and 100% edit summary use, then that's what it takes.

It's just really strange changing your habits...I've ended up using weird summaries on talk pages, like "weird comment that I can't summarise" or "rant" or whatver. And I still haven't decided what to use as a summary when I create a redirect. Sometimes I use "rd" or "make rd", which doesn't seem to add a lot of information. But the worst is when I'm editing my monobook.js - what the hell could I possibly want to say other than "trying to fix bug"? :) Stevage 08:19, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Archiving AfC

Hi Tawker. Would you mind taking a look at Wikipedia:Bot requests#Archiving Wikipedia:Articles for Creation? Cryptic and Uncle G have done similar tasks in the past, but neither is around these days, and your name has been suggested as one that might be able to help. If it's not something you can do, could you suggest another bot developer who might be able to help? As you can see, it's an extremely simple task, but it needs to be done every single day. Thanks a lot. ×Meegs 20:44, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, Crypticbot was my first thought too, but Cryptic hasn't edited in a month, if he returns, I will certainly ask him. Tawkerbot 2 is really great, and I don't want to take you away improving it, but if you could squeeze this in sometime soon, I'm sure all of those anonymous editors would really appreciate it ;) I don't know how it became my responsibility, but I've been doing the archiving myself since the end of February, but won't be nearly as reliable in the future. The problem is that the page grows very quickly and becomes unwieldy after not long if it's not archived. One quick question: User:Lightdarkness said he does not know how to move pages with the Python framework he uses; do you (using whatever you use)? Thanks. ×Meegs 01:09, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Deletion Question

Hello! I came across your name in the history of this page: Giovanni brent paulsantino. Now, I'm pretty sure that whole entry is made up and/or describes the user who created it. As I'm still pretty new to Vandal-busting, I was wondering if you could tell me what I can do. Should a deletion template be put up? Should I open a discussion? I'd appreciate any advice you can give me. Thanks! -Digresser 03:14, 22 April 2006 (UTC) (Tawkerbot2 rocks, btw)

why does it say i have new messages?

this is just a link to YOUR talk page, not myne

  • yes, she just deleted my math article

About some of the questions

Hi, Tawker. Since you mentioned it during one of the discussions, I thought it would be more adequate to talk about this first here, in the "privacy" of your talk page (if you'd prefer to move it to the main forum, that's ok too). It's concerning the set of questions you've added to Ezeu's RfA. Not all of them, just a few:

  • Question n.3: I fail to see a practical point in that question. It's highly speculative, and it would only serve a purpose if the candidate were to say something clearly inappropriate. But in terms of testing a "regular" user's aptitude for Adminship, it would seem to be of little service.
Well, I do admit, its a little bit of a "think tank" though I think it could be ommited ok
  • Question n.8: Seems to be redundant with the standard Q1.
Well, Std Q1 asks what chores, this one somewhat is a "what motivated you to run" - I think I'll modify it to that extent
  • Question n.9: It seems to me that it introduces a level of complexity to Adminship that really shouldn't exist (and I don't believe it does). It would seem that, even if Adminship is a big deal, it's not that big a deal. Yet.
In a sense, I grabbed that one from Rob Church, in short, I'm really looking for people to say that its not a powertrip and that its not a big deal, as admins by themselves have no more of a vote, no more of a say than any other user, and I like to see how the user percieves the role.

Would you agree with any of this? Redux 04:52, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

I've enclosed some replies, please let me know if you have any questions == Tawker 18:00, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for replying. Let's see:
  • Q3: ok
  • Q8: ok, but then it would be maybe best reserved for self-noms. Otherwise, even though the candidate still has to accept the nomination, it's more about accepting gracefully a huge (and flattering) token of confidence ("if people think I'm good enough, then why not" / "what motivated me was that other people thought that I was suited for the job/I got nominated"). Practically speaking, only self-nominated candidates put this kind of specific thought into their applying for Adminship.
  • Q9: Well, if we want the candidate to answer either way, then the point would remain: it would cause an analysis of a complexity that shouldn't (doesn't?) exits. And if we want the candidate to answer that it doesn't really matter, since Adminship is not a big deal, then it would kind of make it a trick question, which I don't believe we should be asking. That's just my two cents.
Thanks, Redux 18:30, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

blocks

Hi, to save time can you mention the specific users involved? -- Curps 17:43, 22 April 2006 (UTC)


User:CasanovaAlive was a manual block, it's a sockpuppet of the "Vaughan" user, one of many socks that blanked the Talk:Simon Strelchik page. Take a look at the history of that page and the discussion currently at WP:AN/I and WP:RFCU. It was a housekeeping block cleaning up old sockpuppets, I've reblocked with a more informative edit summary. -- Curps 18:05, 22 April 2006 (UTC)


Vandals

Hey, I've noticed that User:Yofoxyman has been vandalizing a whole lot of pages. I'm relatively new to wikipedia (been here for a month or two) and I'm not totally sure how to deal with it. I also figure that 70.24.156.28 and 72.136.39.180 are either yofoxyman or friends, because they have vandalized similar pages. They have been warned, but have continued to vandalize. Thanks for any help. Chinamanjoe 19:17, 22 April 2006 (UTC)


It has not been vandalism but merely exposing the truth and Chinamanjoe has had no right to delete the truthful information which I have provided from all the user talk pages. Chinamanjoe is a fraud and all the the pages he has created are complete lies. He has deleted the additions which I and others have made to the discussion pages to try and hide the truth. He should not be allowed to continue to conduct this sort of behaviour. Thank you. Yofoxyman 19:39, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Just a quick thanks for taking care of the {{db-owner}} request. — WCityMike (T | C) 21:03, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

TawkerbotX

Hey, just wanted to let you know that someone is creating a lot Tawkerbot accounts, ie Tawkerbot6 Tawkerbot7, etc. If its you or one of your minions, then no big deal, just wanted to make sure you were aware ;) --Hetar 21:32, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

They're mine, defensive registratiosn -- Tawker 21:33, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

*suppress "omigosh omigosh" excitement from the inside*

Thanks for your barnstar, that was certainly a pleasant surprise :) deadkid_dk 06:42, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Re: GoCard

I can't get any more recent than that, because that is from my graduating grade 12 year. However, from what I've heard and seen, that format is still in use today (it varies by school, but the basic format is still the same). As for the Wikipedia idea, if you start one I will join. :) Although I am thinking of starting a Wiki on Wikia that covers the film industry in Greater Vancouver instead.

And if you want a userpage photo of me, it's in my "Hermit-Bio" section. :) Buchanan-Hermit™..SCREAM!!!.... 07:28, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

I like the Ducks because I used to live in the Orange County/Anaheim area, and they grew on me. Besides, I think they're a cool team, especially now with Burkie and the return of Selanne. Buchanan-Hermit™..SCREAM!!!.... 08:25, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Just when I was trying to FORGET the exams... thank you. :P lol... It's alright. I'm 3 down, 2 to go (25th and 28th). Then I have a week off before my summer film production course. For the short movie project for that course, I'm making a modernized adaptation of The Hockey Sweater, with the Flames and Canucks. Planning to film most of it in Steveston. Should be fun. :) Buchanan-Hermit™..SCREAM!!!.... 08:34, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Redesign

I was wondering if you were still up for that user page renovation; I'd be glad to do it for you, but I was just wondering, what did you have in mind in terms of organization, color, etc.? I remember you were thinking about a Sango123-MoP hybrid, so thats a start. Take your time to choose, and cheers! :D _-M o P-_ 15:42, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Mathwiz2020's Sockpuppet

Yes, that was me - I didn't know though that I couldn't edit the monobook file myself. Actually, I had e-mailed User:Bluemoose and he blanked the faulty file just a minute after you blanked my monobook, so I was able to sort things out myself. My IP address was blocked for the sockpuppet, so I couldn't even edit from my username (as per the error you told me about a week ago). I couldn't even unblock, though, because the faulty script wouldn't let me view the unblock page! I've gotten everything back to normal now. Thanks again! --M@thwiz2020 21:00, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

69.225.158.113

Regarding 69.225.158.113 (talk • contribs). One person, using many IP addresses, has been vandalizing the article on University of California, Los Angeles (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) regularly for months now. He originally started by removing half the images. Now he reverts back to that old version, which is quite obsolete by this time. Since he rarely uses the same IP, it isn't possible to block him, forcing usa to semi-protect the article for long stretches. In this instance he did stick with an IP for a while so I blocked it to get his attention. The unblock request was entirely unconnected. That was placed by a user, Legendary Steve (talk • contribs), who was looking to pick a fight and objected to the block simply because I made it. For that reason I removed the tag. However I'll remove the block since the vandal has probably moved to another campus computer by this time. Cheers, -Will Beback 21:11, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Old Skool Esperanzial note

Since this isn't the result of an AC meeting, I have decided to go Old Skool. This note is to remind you that the elections are taking place now and will end at 23:50 UTC on 2006-04-29. Please vote here. Thanks. --Celestianpower háblame 20:42, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Checkuser

Do you know what is a Checkuser?—G.He 01:11, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

User:4.236.222.150

I just reverted this vandal again, and I see that you've already test4'ed them... since I'm not an admin, I'll let you figure out whether to block or warn them, ok? thanks! bikeable (talk) 01:45, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Fake block messages

What did you do with those??? I am refering to User:68.185.73.62, whom I put on AIV. Thanks, just want to know what to do in the future, because I have never seen that...Eagle (talk) (desk) 06:55, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Oops, you and I edited on each others page at the same time, nevermind!!!

Tawkerbot seems to have a date bug

In some cases it seems to update the prod template with the date it runs rather than the date the template was added. In another case it seemed to use the day before the temlate was added. Dlyons493 Talk 20:06, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Hmm, it was susposed to grab the day the prod was first added and use it, not too much I can do to fix it now that its run, and I don't think its a big deal if its a day off , fair PITA to fix it -- Tawker 21:07, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

24.119.155.147--Personal Attacks

I just want to notify you that 24.119.155.147 (Contribs) has vandalized my user page twice now ([8] & [9]). I'm guessing that 24.119.155.147 might be taking offense because of the warnings I posted about the vandalism on Super Mario World a while back. I'm guessing he might've already been blocked back then for vandalizing Super Mario World since theres a block message on his talk page. Can you please look into this matter and find the best possible resolution? Thanks.—G.He 21:28, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

24.119.155.147 has vandalized my page again.—G.He 21:45, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Yahoo!

Something's wrong with Yahoo!... can't seem to revert...—G.He 00:28, 25 April 2006 (UTC) (Resolved)—G.He 00:50, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

You should rename tawkerbot2 to...

..."Syrisstalkingthisbotandprobablyblockingunrepentantvandalsitjustwarnedbot". I swear I blocked 5-10 different ips that were repeat vandals after seeing tawkerbot2's message pop up on their talkpages that I have watched. :D --Syrthiss 03:13, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Mirador Instant Messenger

Hey Tawker, you just deleted the article Mirador Instant Messenger citing CSD/G1. I originally tagged this article for speedy deletion; however, after the user contacted me, I've looked a little more into it, and I believe it may be notable enough (31.900 hits on Google). This is a n00b's first article, and I think he's just having some trouble with formatting, language, etc., thus why it appears to be patent nonsense. In any case, I'm going to try to salvage the article and then perhaps prod or AfD (as it smells a bit like an advertisement to me); I hope you don't mind my recreating it. You may want to see my note on Talk:Mirador Instant Mesenger (was originally misspelled and I forgot to move the talk page with it). Thanks. AmiDaniel (Talk) 06:02, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Reply to Tawker regarding Ayn Rand cult

To note in the article that followers of her creed were primarily white, young men is hardly racism. Her Nietzschean-like obsession with "American values of egoism and individualism", and her opposition to women's rights, is well documented. As for the noted adherents, did you read their entries in Wikipedia? Also, I provided a fairly extensive list of references; including two external links with analysis by Murray Rothbard and Michael Shermer. The "George W. Bush" article is a "POV war magnet", yet it remains undeleted so I ask you to please undelete "Ayn Rand cult", irregardless of your personal opinion regarding this very well-documented phenomena. -Dna4salE 15:41, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

P.S. One of the closest to Rand was Nathaniel Branden, a young philosophy student who joined the Collective in the early days before Atlas Shrugged was published. In his autobiographical memoirs entitled Judgment Day (1989), Branden recalled: "There were implicit premises in our world to which everyone in our circle subscribed, and which we transmitted to our students at NBI." Incredibly, and here is where the philosophical movement became a cult, they came to believe that (pp. 255-256):
  • Ayn Rand is the greatest human being who has ever lived.
  • Atlas Shrugged is the greatest human achievement in the history of the world.
  • Ayn Rand, by virtue of her philosophical genius, is the supreme arbiter in any issue pertaining to what is rational, moral, or appropriate to man's life on earth.
  • Once one is acquainted with Ayn Rand and/or her work, the measure of one's virtue is intrinsically tied to the position one takes regarding her and/or it.
  • No one can be a good Objectivist who does not admire what Ayn Rand admires and condemn what Ayn Rand condemns.
  • No one can be a fully consistent individualist who disagrees with Ayn Rand on any fundamental issue.
  • Since Ayn Rand has designated Nathaniel Branden as her "intellectual heir," and has repeatedly proclaimed him to be an ideal exponent of her philosophy, he is to be accorded only marginally less reverence than Ayn Rand herself.
  • But it is best not to say most of these things explicitly (excepting, perhaps, the first two items). One must always maintain that one arrives at one's beliefs solely by reason.
-Dna4salE 15:41, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
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