Talk:Tawagalawa letter

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I think we are confusing the Tawagalawa and the Manapa-Tarhunta letters now; Piyamaradu is mentioned in the latter. dab (ᛏ) 07:51, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Piyama-radu is the central "bad guy" in both letters. Piyama-radu's name is first preserved in the Tawagalawa letter in paragraph 4, but per research it has come to be understood that he is the subject of discussion before that. You can read a translation of the actual letter at the external link provided. Cheers. 69.109.169.10 13:43, 2 May 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Tawagalawa and Deucalion

It is mentioned that Tawagalawa, brother of the king of Ahhiyawa, has been connected with Eteocles, king of Orchomenus in Boeotia.

But it is probable that he must indentified with Deucalion, son of (Achean) Minos II and brother of Catreus, king of Crete.

Note:

  1. Ahhiyawa country (i.e. in Greek, Achaea), of Hittite texts, was neither Argos in Peloponnesos nor Orchomenos of Boeotia. It was Achaean Cnossos in Crete!
  2. Piyamaradu, a renegate Hittite noble, must indentified with Radamanthus, brother (theoretically, in Greek Mythology) of Minos and ruler of Eastern Aegean islands (Chios, Samos (perhaps), (but not Lesbos) and Asian city Erythrae.
  3. Attarsiya, king of Ahhiyawa, must indentified with Asterion, king of Crete, husband of Europe. (His name is a rendition of name Atreus , king of Mycene).

--IonnKorr 12:08, 8 May 2006 (UTC)


you misunderstand. The names have been identified, not the characters. Tawaklawas (a possible reading of ta-wa-ga-la-wa-as) is supposed to be a rendition of Etewoklewes. That doesn't imply that the mythological king has anything to do with the historical king. dab (ᛏ) 12:13, 8 May 2006 (UTC)


Ok, I agree entirely with you. He is a rendition of Etewoklewes but in reality, Deucalion (= *Dew-kali-wo), the father of Idomeneus.
--IonnKorr 12:18, 8 May 2006 (UTC)


Are you suggesting that ta-wa-ga-la-wa- may also be read *Dawkalwa- and somehow be related to Deukaliōn-? That sounds rather improbable.dab (ᛏ) 13:26, 8 May 2006 (UTC)


Hi, Dbachmann
The relation "Ta-wa-ga-la-wa ~E-teo-c-le-s", is probable.
The relation "Ta-wa-ga-la-wa ~De-u-ca-lio-(n)" is improbable. Ok. Thanks for your answer.
Note: The assyrian name Assur-bani-pal became Sardanapalus by Greeks of classical era.

--IonnKorr 16:07, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

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