Talk:Taslima Nasrin
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It is probably unnecesary to name someone with "Dr" prefix. what's the problem?
[edit] npov
have brought in NPOV alert as the page was quite biased in its style. have done some major edits myself. will remove alert shortly if other editors can oblige with some further changes. J O I B A N G L A ! Aloodum 01:00, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
- Just as a rule of thumb it's a good idea to mention what you basically find to be the POV issue(s). gren グレン 01:18, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for reminding me! I thought that the author/s was/were pushing a simplistic anti-islamist line and pro-feminist slant. It was better for the subject matter if her supporters instead allow the reader to feel they have a neutral first sight of her. Then the reader could determine that in fact Nasrin is herself maybe so-called 'anti-islamist' or 'pro-feminist' rather than that the article was written by people who are also sympathetic to this. That is all! J O I B A N G L A ! Aloodum 15:13, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
- I am also removing the POV alert as the editing has eliminated any objections I hope. J O I B A N G L A !Aloodum 15:15, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Muslim reformer
I see that she is in the category "muslim reformers". I know very little about her, but having read some of the links, I see no mention of her wanting to reform islam. Nor does it look like she is a muslim any more. She simply does not seem to like Islam.DanielDemaret 20:22, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
- While I won't comment on her religious preferences, I would agree that "muslim reformers" is a wrong category here. She is a feminist, to begin with. Because of her feminist agenda, she was threatened by the fundamentalists, but that really doesn't make her a muslim reformer. --Ragib 20:42, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
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- Thank you. Having known and read Taslima's writings since 1990s before she became famous worldwide, I don't really need that advice. I'd really like to see you justify the "Muslim reformer" category. Really. She's quite good as a feminist, but that doesn't make her a reformer. But then again, I'd appreciate if you show me the reason. Thanks. --Ragib 03:16, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
- Why don't you go read her website then for starters.--CltFn 03:22, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
- Thank you. Having known and read Taslima's writings since 1990s before she became famous worldwide, I don't really need that advice. I'd really like to see you justify the "Muslim reformer" category. Really. She's quite good as a feminist, but that doesn't make her a reformer. But then again, I'd appreciate if you show me the reason. Thanks. --Ragib 03:16, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
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- I did. But still don't see your point. Would you like to clear up your point by pointing to the specific book or quotation, rather than redirecting me? Thanks. --Ragib 03:28, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
- If you do not see the point by reading the home page of her web-site then I am afraid that I would not be able to help you , I have no cure for blindness. Sorry.--CltFn 03:48, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
- I did. But still don't see your point. Would you like to clear up your point by pointing to the specific book or quotation, rather than redirecting me? Thanks. --Ragib 03:28, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
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- Well, I asked you politely. If you don't want to follow on likewise, no problem by me. Since I can't find the justification, and neither you are willing to point out, fine. I'd try rereading her Bangla novels and newspaper columns to find something I missed the first time, but I doubt I'd find anything. But thanks anyway. --Ragib 04:18, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
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- Look, I'm not trying to pick a fight with you. I looked there and couldn't find the reference you referred to. All I'm asking is your help in pointing out the link. Being rude isn't the solution, trying to pick a fight isn't the solution. If you know which page you are referring to, let me know. That would at least be a "Cure for my blindlness", so to speak. I have been visiting the website for years, but it is possible that I have missed something along the way. So, help me find the reference!!. Thanks again. --Ragib
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Some quotes from the home page:
- If any religion allows the persecution of the people of different faiths, if any religion keeps women in slavery, if any religion keeps people in ignorance, then I can't accept that religion.'
- Humankind is facing an uncertain future. The probability of new kinds of rivalry and conflict looms large. In particular, the conflict is between two different ideas, secularism and fundamentalism. I don't agree with those who think the conflict is between two religions, namely Christianity and Islam, or Judaism and Islam. After all there are fundamentalists in every religious community. I don't agree with those people who think that the crusades of the Middle Ages are going to be repeated soon. Nor do I think that this is a conflict between the East and the West. To me, this conflict is basically between modern, rational, logical thinking and irrational, blind faith. To me, this is a conflict between modernity and anti-modernism. While some strive to go forward, others strive to go backward. It is a conflict between the future and the past, between innovation and tradition, between those who value freedom and those who do not.'
'Freedom of expression for some is not enough. We must work for freedom of expression for all. Human rights for some is not enough. We must work for the human rights for all. Peace for some is not enough. We must work for peace for all. I, come what may, will not be silenced. Come what may, I will continue my fight for equality and justice without any compromise until my death. Come what may, I will never be silenced.'
--CltFn 04:57, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, finally!! Though I may not agree with the applicability of the issue, I at least know what you were referring to. Thanks again for pointing it out clearly. --Ragib 05:09, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
- Those quotes seem to indicate her opposition to Islam, Christianity, and Judaism, rather than a desire to reform Islam. "... then I can't accept that religion." The conflict she sees is between secularism and fundamentalism, which appear to be just different words for atheism and theistic religion. She still does not appear to be a "muslim reformer," based solely on what's been presented on this Talk page. (I for one know nothing else about her.) Wesley 14:54, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Former Muslim?
She's been added to category:Former Muslims. Is this true? No mention in the article. =Nichalp «Talk»= 07:22, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
- I'd like to see a citation from a reliable source (READ: Not yet another hearsay website, but a legitimate news media). --Ragib 07:51, 17 March 2007 (UTC)