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Contents 1 Mediation Case 2 147.10.* 3 WP:RFCU 4 Mediation Cabal 5 List of football (soccer) stadiums by capacity 6 As if I wasn't completely sick of it already 7 Troll 8 Please calm down 9 Alemannia Aachen‎ stadium 10 User:Tancred/2008 Australian football code crowds 11 WP Munich

[edit] Mediation Case

Cheers for raising the request for mediation :) BTW did you get to see the "great" Romario play at Gosford? The SMH was rather scathing about his performance. 13:46, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Yeah... Oh boy was he bad. Had a few touches where you could see where a world champion once was, but they were mere shadows. You coming up to CCBTS on Sunday with your lot? We'll make you more than welcome in the Kendall Bar.

RE: mediation - I just wanted a third opinion to come in on it. I'm getting really frustrated at the moment with this, because this same puppet is just popping up time after time and causing the same old trouble. There's x number of other things I'd rather do, but I wind up 'stalking' as he would say just trying to clean up after him. And I don't have anywhere near this sort of trouble with any other person in the wikiverse. His alegations that we're SP's is just hilarious though. Hasn't noticed that we support different teams, edit at similar times on different things, have pretty divergent interests barring football... I'm pretty sure, for example, that the first swathe of edits a SFC supporter's SP would make would be related to the mariners and other Gosford related things... Dibo | Talk | Contribs 22:37, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

If I was in Sydney I would come up to Gosford, but after the World Cup I moved to Edinburgh :) I know what you mean about frustration at the moment, but I have noticed the more often he posts, the more often others clean up as well. Tancred 22:42, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Ah... that's a complication then isn't it! lol! One thing that's really irking me is that I laid out another SP case ages ago, and it simply hasn't been looked at. When I made the original SP case, the action taken was pretty half-arsed. And the thing I find really frustrating is that for ages after that first case, user:Ehinger222 simply did RL stuff and did it reasonably well. He kept out of edit wars, he kept nice, and he constructively added content and made WP better. Then, for who knows what reason, he's dipped back into the edit warring on the apparent assumption that nobody will notice he's doing exactly what he's done endless times before under endless names. I wish he'd just give up the barrow-pushing and get back to the good edits... Dibo | Talk | Contribs 22:47, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 147.10.*

I have blocked him, and a non-involved admin has approved the block (denied the unblock request), so we should have a bit of peace now! -- Chuq 09:47, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Not likely Chuq. I have a different and active user name and will not use it because you will block it but am not user:147.10... I came across this whole dispute and the whole thing seems beyond me and mine. The unblock request was not looked into properly bcause I think that user: 147.10 did not wholely understand the process and prevent clear and concise evidence. --Caesar34 11:20, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

until he finds another IP or username... Dibo ^{T | C} 22:53, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, avoiding a block is a valid reason for re-blocking, so will be able to get him straight away if that happens. -- Chuq 00:06, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

from the time that (the person I believe is) the same person has been doing this, I think that's easier said than done. to wit:

Licinius

NSWelshman

Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Ehinger222

Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Ehinger222 (2nd)

Of course, I could be wrong, I just suspect I'm not... Dibo ^{T | C} 01:56, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Hahaha Dibo, who ever thought that the concept of Pelican droppings would work.

Regarding User:Tenuous walker - I checked with another admin. If he edits in that fashion again, let me know and I will block immediately (if I don't see him first). -- Chuq 02:18, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

have added this to an existing sockpuppet case - Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Ehinger222 (2nd). also suspect relationship to NSWelshman (talk • contribs • page moves • block user • block log) and Licinius (talk • contribs • page moves • block user • block log • rfcu) Dibo ^{T | C} 05:05, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm about to add User:Topcattheirrefutable to Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Ehinger222 (2nd) Tancred 09:43, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

And another one User:Caesar34 :( Tancred 11:26, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Is this all you ever do on wiki Dibo, LOL. To read you I am the antichrist as well.

[1], Dibo, it was nice to look through your contributions and find this, lol, you are really starting to develop a complex. I suppose I am the source of all things rugby league football is not soccer to you, haha. Do you understand the concept of pelican droppings? That if you leave a trace here, it will be found by another and another and than snowball? Like the recent commentary over Alan Oakley using comments from http://www.stoush.net?? I do not believe that evidence by the way because I remember it being changed in November of last year. Anyways, good luck with the sockpuppet case. Another strike for righteous indignation in this overly rude world. --Caesar34 11:31, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

your [here] is a dead giveaway - misspelling 'common' as 'commen' is a dead giveaway. see [first sockpuppet page about you]:

"stereotypical misspellings, like 'commen' and common style of edits and comments on talk pages"

so... there it is again. Dibo ^{T | C} 11:36, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

btw - removed user:topcattheirrefutable - already on an indef block Dibo ^{T | C} 11:41, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP:RFCU

Just letting you know, as a checkuser clerk, I've moved the checkuser request you submitted to Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Rugby 666. :) Luna Santin 19:14, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mediation Cabal

Hello, I am going to be one of the mediators listening to your case. Please see Alan Oakley Mediation Cabal to participate in this voluntary mediation. Somitho 21:46, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of football (soccer) stadiums by capacity

Ok I agree to let brittish stadiums be classified under english, scottish, welsh. Maybea i was doing it to be controversial. Someone else had previosly changed Wembly to England instead of UK. However I still feel I am technicaly correct. ie. Camp Nou doesnt have the flag of Catalunia next to it. But I agree to let (perhaps petty) nationalism prevail.80.41.235.219 21:14, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] As if I wasn't completely sick of it already

That complete orifice is back again I see. Do you know if there's any way we can just stop him for good, by some form of magical "i know who you are and don't even think about it" no account creation, no anon edit, just GTF block? Dibo ^{T | C} 01:02, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Troll

Policy recommends against negative name calling, but I will take is as a compliment all the same, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Troll, yes that is me hiding under the bridge :) {144.132.221.157 (Talk)}

[edit] Please calm down

The message you left at my talk could very easily be interpreted as abuse. Please calm down, or I will have no other option than to report you to an administrater. I think that what is happenning here is a case of mistaken identity, that is the only reason I have not sought out an administrater yet. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 144.132.217.29 (talk) 10:56, 22 March 2007 (UTC).

Templated warning removed. I've been informed of the history. Sorry about that. – Riana ^ঋ 11:43, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm trying to assume the best here - could you all have actually gotten confused between your recent encounters with one person User:144.132.221.157 above, vs. what is likely to be a totally different person User:144.132.217.29. Uh, it's a really big Internet out there. Please don't make such broad assumptions. Shenme 11:32, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Looking at a few page histories, the actual edits they're making, and the fact that both IP's are coming from 144.132.xxx.xxx makes it seem very likely that this is not a totally different person. --Onorem 11:39, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Both these IP's are in the same CIDR block. They are both controlled by Telstra - an Australian ISP. Editors that use these IP's have been pushing a POV for over 12 months here. These edits all take the same form. The editor picks 1-2 words each week, edits for his POV and then spends a week or so reverting despite what other editors suggest. How do I know they are the same person? A number of things. The constant refusal to sign any comments is one key. User talk:Rugby_666 was finally banned. That case can be looked at here:

‎Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Ehinger222

‎Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-11-27 Alan Oakley

‎Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Ehinger222 (2nd)

‎Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Ehinger222

‎Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Rugby 666

The Rubgy League POV pushing stopped for a short time but quickly started up again. Some examples: User 147.10.112.157 (A known Ehinger222 IP) made this edit [2] about Marconi Stadium. A week later the plans for a new stadium development were called off and the article updated. Then 5 new accounts were created, just to revert back to the now incorrect edit:

Reddoll17 (talk • contribs • page moves • block user • block log) Signor12345 (talk • contribs • page moves • block user • block log) Fifa1998 (talk • contribs • page moves • block user • block log) Wacko Jacko2 (talk • contribs • page moves • block user • block log) Redneckyank (talk • contribs • page moves • block user • block log).

After this the user has given up with registering new usernames and just uses IP's. His/Her latest series of edits are nothing more than tweaking Wikipedia for POVness. [3], [4], [5]. not to mention the endless POV stuff here [6].

here [7], both 144.132.217.29 (talk • contribs • count) 144.132.221.157 (talk • contribs • count) revert the page back to edits made by Rugby666, one of the banned usernames.

Given this has been going on for for many months, something really needs to be done. I would call for at least raising this ongoing wikipedia attack with the ISP, and blocking the IP range. Tancred 12:57, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Alemannia Aachen‎ stadium

Did you check Alemannia Aachen‎'s website. I think if we can get a number from there, then it would be better then the number. Kingjeff 22:12, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:Tancred/2008 Australian football code crowds

Hey there I can see why you created 2008 Australian football code crowds but it breaches Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. I don't know if there is a project page you could park it for a while instead? Garrie 02:39, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WP Munich

Kingjeff 00:12, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

• A while ago I proposed a WikiProject for sporting facilities. Would you be interested in doing that? Kingjeff 01:18, 25 March 2007 (UTC)