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[edit] Name That Tune (Movie Soundtrack)
What's the name of the track that plays during the first animated sequence depicting Tank Girl's first spin in the tank and ends with the shot of Kesslee in a body cast? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 83.245.28.201 (talk • contribs) .
[edit] jumping the shark
This paragraph seems highly POV. I know several fans of Tank Girl who loved the movie, and do not feel it was massacred by its director. The paragraph suffers from weasel words and generally tells us what to think and why. I think it should go, or be rewritten so that it sticks to verifiable facts from reliable sources. -- cmh 04:56, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
- Ok. I fixed this a bit. -- cmh 05:26, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Identity of movie tanks
Definitely the tank shown in the picture is a Stuart, but that wasn't the only one Tank Girl drives in the film. It was on late last night where I am and I'm pretty sure I recognized a PT-76, or at least some kind of smallish tank with a flat upturned boat-hull and a chopped-conical turret that was definitely not a Stuart. Also there was another tank which looked like a wooden mockup of no vehicle in particular. I'm sorry I can't be more helpful, but I was half asleep and distracted by the incredibly low quality of the picture. Eleland 00:46, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Tank girl stripping?
Is the erm "strip" used for the duration ot eh article accurate? most americans think of the term "strip" refers to something like Peanuts, Blondie, Family Circus. Wouldn't "comic book" or "issue" be more accurate? (like Judge Dredd), or is it actually serial daily comic akin to Dick Tracy?
[edit] Fictional Anarchist?
I've never known this character to be identified as an anarchist, either by the author or by the character within the comics. Without a source, I feel that this is a misrepresentation based on the idea that the character is simply rebellious. Until some kind of citation shows up, I'm removing this article from the Fictional Anarchist category. As soon as a source shows up, feel free to add it again.--Cast 06:11, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
- tap-dancing lollipops, don't be such a fucking stinker! that's fine, but it's not exactly misleading due to her strong ties anti-establishment feminist punk rock and a direct quote, "but do you remember when i was a kid and you took me to that fortune-teller woman and she said that my name meant 'the rule breaker' and that i would someday break all the established laws of life? well mom, it was true, it's happening! but i'm not just breaking rules for the sake of it, there seems to be a reason for everything i do. it's like some kind of force taking over me life. i'm not scared of that. there are so many stupid people, so many stupid laws. shit. people world wide are living a lie. and run their lives around a system that is complete bollocks." that coupled with the fact that she topples all these multi-national wto-type conglomerate thingies qualifies as propaganda by the deed or whatever. plus i don't understand how any doris day fan can NOT be considered an anarchist. but whatever you're the expert. . .
- I don't know about "expert," but I'll take it as some kind of complement. I'm just trying to stick to specifics, because a few weeks ago this category was still riddled with any character that seemed even remotely "chaotic." Even after the nomination to delete the category failed, and non-anarchist characters were being removed, someone still tried to add on Havik, which just goes to show that there are those out there who will think they know anarchy is mayhem, insanity, or senseless violence, and anarchists just ought to suck it up.
- Well, while I do feel that quote is all but declaring the girl an anarchist, and appreciate the nature of the character, lets be honest: being an Anarchist isn't a vague thing. Yes, there are many types of anarchists, but being an anarchist, at it's core, is something specific, and we ought not to call someone an anarchist unless they self-identify as such, and the same goes for fictional characters.
- If not out of respect to the author, than to the character herself. That quote could mean she's an anarchist. It could also mean she's the astromorphic projection of rebellion, given form by the sheer weight of anger by all oppressed people in her world. It could also mean nothing, and just sounded good to the writer at the time. At this point, even references to anarchy, like the Circle-A, could just be punk imagery, referring more to vague punk rebellion than the actual political philosophy. Until either the character self-avows, or the writer comments that she is an anarchist, we should stay neutral on the matter and not apply labels for her.--Cast 05:33, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
yeah okay thats cool, i just let the riot grrrl association with anarcha-feminism emma goldman/kathy acker-type flimshaw go to me noggin i guess. but i still think the comics way more anarchist-flavored than say slc punk, whose characters' idea of anarchism's basically, "huhuhuh i dont think there should be no government cos government sucks, thad be cool huuhuh, punk rock!" which has nothing to do with chomsky or howard zinn, or even jello biafra-type stuff. but that movies still on the "anarchist movies" category
- I more than agree with you on that note. There are characters who are far more anarchic, without ever declaring themselves to be anarchist, than some characters who rant about "anarchy" up and down, like that "SLC Punk" character, or Puck from "The Anarchist Cookbook," or Norman Gates from "Poisoned Minds."
- Now I haven't made any edits to the Anarchist Movies category -- which looks like it needs a lot of work -- but if I were to start, I'd go in with the same criteria I require for the Fictional Anarchist section, which is that the character or creator have to explicitly state the character is an anarchist. Sure, characters who we wouldn't proudly consider anarchists slip in, but there are some anarchist characters who might otherwise be excluded. For example, I know of few anarchists who don't like V of V for Vendetta, yet I have read a negative review of him by an anarchist who thought he represented bad anarchist stereotypes. If editors left out characters because we felt they weren't the "right" kind of anarchist, then it would devolve into an edit war on par with the constant editing taking place on the main Anarchism article.
- This way there will be some stereotypes slipping in, but most self-avowed anarchist characters actually out number them (we just have to look hard enough,) and we have the opportunity to discuss the relationship the character has to anarchy in the character's article.
- On that note, if Tank Girl ever shows any references to Anarchy (including the indirect ones already made,) I suggest including these in a subsection of the article that focuses on the politics of the character and the comic. Talk about how the character represents Riot Girrl critiques of beauty and feminism, and also get into anarchist influences if any (and I'm sure editors could find some.)--Cast 19:23, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
okay - i found a quote where she self-identifies - i wasn't ganderin' for it, i just happened on it when i was lookin through a real bad issue called apocalypse, all the world leaders are hopping on a spaceship after they find out a comet's heading for earth, leaving all the earth-salty wage-slaves to die, and when her crew try to get on, this mustache says, "what group are you with?", she says, "angelfarkers anonymous", he says, "what country do you rule?," she says, "we're anarchists, motherfucker!", and she blasts away all the g-men. does that count?
- Count? Of course! I'd love to add her immediately, but I still need that citation. Can you give me the issue number and the date it was published? Maybe just a cover scan found on the internet? Google images can be useful for that. Cast 21:49, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
yeah, it's about half way throughs apocalypse (a real stinky book), it's right after she headbutts lady di and nicks her tiara, no scans sorrys
- Right then. After a bit of searching, I managed to download the scanned mini-series. Found the quote in Tank Girl: Apocalypse #3 (January 1996). I'll add her to the category now. Thanks for the help!
- ps, if someone ever gets around to creating an article for Tank Girl: Apocalypse, they should be sure to add it to the Anarchist Fiction category too. Funny, as it was made at the tail-end of 1995, it must have been written just before the writer, Alan Grant, went and stopped being an anarchist himself. Pity. --Cast 07:40, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Split
Both halves of this entry are large enough to make solid entries of their own so I have suggested splitting the film off to Tank Girl (film). (Emperor 17:23, 31 January 2007 (UTC))
Yeah I agree completely with this. Doctor Moley 20:32, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Me too, I think they both look quite differentMdk0642 23:39, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Agree -- this should be quick and easy to do, as the film section is already formated as its own article. ~CS 17:23, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
Agree, in fact i'll move it myself. Andrzejbanas 02:25, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
- Good stuff - can't see any controversy there thanks to the good work from the various editors who have worked on it. I'll check it through and see if there is anything needed. It might be worth checking through people like cast members to make sure they point to the right place. (Emperor 02:45, 10 February 2007 (UTC))
[edit] the thingy about fans
i tried to cite the source, there was a thing to a stoopid myspace fansite, but it got chopped off as spam. still think it's interesting
- I suppose it has parallels with The Ballad of Halo Jones#Reissued & rediscovered but then again I have real problems with that section and have already removed a lot from it (using unreferenced quotes from Amazon reviews for example). If you can find a solid source for it then perhaps something like "However, the extra exposure the film gave to the character seems to have resulted more readers of the original comic" might work (if you have the sources) (Emperor 16:40, 15 February 2007 (UTC))
