Talk:Table of political parties in Europe by pancontinental organisation

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Contents 1 Featured list 2 Indicating which parties are in government 3 Catalonia? 4 Sammarinese parties 5 New European Parliament grouping 6 Kosovo? 7 Serbian parliamentary political parties

[edit] Featured list

You should consider nominating this nominating this for featured lists. Maybe do a peer review first, but I think it's pretty damn good as is. Jacoplane 16:30, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Needs a references section though. Jacoplane 16:32, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Fits now in the screen Electionworld 22:49, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

I'd support it. —Nightstallion (?) 06:48, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, Jacoplane. Howsabout we give peer review a whirl? Referencing is admittedly a weak spot. The Tom 22:18, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

I think I've hit a level where I'm satisfied with this article as it stands at this instant. Anyone else have any feedback? The Tom 00:40, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

The only thing I can think of is "fucking great work, mate". 's that good enough as far as feedback's concerned? ;) —Nightstallion (?) 13:41, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Tom, it's about time you finally nominated this for WP:FL, or I'll do it. ;) —Nightstallion (?) 18:06, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

I might have to not stop you :) The Tom 18:08, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

The only problem I see is that some people might not agree with the fact that the table *NEEDS* to be this big to make sense... —Nightstallion (?) 08:14, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure if this should be named "political parties in Europe" when the table only incorporates those sitting in the European Parliament. There are certain pancontinental organisations which are not related to the EP. Blankfrackis 20:19, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Indicating which parties are in government

First off, a huge tip of the hat to the people who did the hard work of putting this awesome list together. A suggestion: Do you think it would be helpful to put the abbreviations of the parties currently in government in their respective countries into boldface? Or would that overwhelm the reader with information? --Jfruh (talk) 13:23, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

I think that would be slightly too much. —Nightstallion (?) 22:38, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Catalonia?

Not to wade into no doubt fractious politics here, but shouldn't Catalonia be listed under Spain, the way Flanders and Wallonia are listed under Belgium and NI under the UK? It's kind of anamalous out there by itself with no indication that it's not a sovereign state. --Jfruh (talk) 18:51, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. I've reverted to our previous configuration, which reflected it as that. The Tom 17:50, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sammarinese parties

We need to include United Left (San Marino) instead of Sammarinese Communist Refoundation, and we need to add New Socialist Party (San Marino), We Sammarinese, Sammarinese for Freedom and Sammarinese People. —Nightstallion (?) 19:26, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Possibly also Citizens' Party (Catalonia)? They are in the Catalan Parliament, after all. —Nightstallion (?) 19:30, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

I've generally speaking been avoiding one-seat parties that aren't in any international blocs, as they are effectively independents... granted, I can think of at least one exception--Respect in the UK--which probably say more about my own biased attitudes towards notability than anything else. It would also make things rather messy in a few cases in Eastern Europe, where there are hordes of one-man parties. In any case, provided it doesn't render the chart completely unreadable, I'd hardly object to any additions.

I think the case against parties elected only in sub-sovereign parliaments is a bit tighter, though. If you go with Catalonia, then you'll eventually have the case made for, say, the Welsh Assembly, and then regional governments in Italy, and then oblast councils in Eastern Siberia, and then borough councils in Berkshire, and then it would be nightmarishly complex to both fit everything and keep it all up to date. Again, considering that most of these more localish parties aren't in any international blocs, I think it undercuts their relevance to the table, particularly if their assignment to a left, right or centre category is a bit of a judgement call on our part. The Tom 20:34, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

My main reason is that we've got a separate row in the table for Catalonia, so it makes sense to have all parties present in the Catalan Parliament... But I can see what you mean. —Nightstallion (?) 21:34, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Incidentally, could you help with finding out where those parties actually stand? I haven't really been able to find out (mostly due to my bad Italian and due to the reluctance of those parties to state "left" or "right" on their homepages)... —Nightstallion (?) 20:51, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New European Parliament grouping

Identity, Tradition and Sovereignty -- will have to find its way into this table, I guess... --Jfruh (talk) 14:22, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

No, only parties are in this table, not parliamentary groups. Groups don't mean too much as far as political alignment is concerned, membership in a European political party, on the other hand, *DOES* prove to be highly correlated with similar policies and world views. —Nightstallion (?) 18:00, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

But the other groups (and the NIs) get a background color ... that is what I was referring to, really. I think all of these parties currently have a grey background for NI and that will need to change. --Jfruh (talk) 18:56, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Yup. On its way. The Tom 19:47, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Oh, yeah. Right. Didn't think of that. —Nightstallion (?) 12:06, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kosovo?

Does anyone know if the parties in Kosovo's legislature participate in pan-European political organizations, or how they map onto this chart? I know that this table should probably not get into the many parties in sub-state parliaments, but it seems that Kosovo's de facto independence for the moment might make it a separate case. --Jfruh (talk) 19:28, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

If you can somehow align the Kosovar parties with European ones, feel free to do so. —Nightstallion (?) 19:52, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

They do not participate in pan-European political organizations, although some have expressed the desire. --PaxEquilibrium 18:24, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Serbian parliamentary political parties

The ДХСС (DHSS), СДПО (SDPO), НС (NS) and ЈС (JS) are rightist standalone. The ДС (DS) is with the Party of European Socialists. The ДСС (DSS) and the G17+ are with the European People's Party. The СПС (SPS), СРС, LDP, GSS (ГСС) and SDU (СДУ) are leftist standalone. The other parties are worthless of mention (plus they're mostly coalitions themselves, including the ones already written at the table). --PaxEquilibrium 14:53, 18 February 2007 (UTC)