Talk:T. D. Jakes
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A very important resource to learn the differences between what T. D. Jakes teaches with regard to True Christianity and his view of Christianity which is heretical is easily accessed at the web site below. The research has been verified and validated by "The Christian Research Institue".
http://www.equip.org/free/DJ900.htm
I have reverted this edit by 71.96.195.233, as the text is copyrighted [1]. raekwon 00:43, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] the mission of this ministry
[edit] Oneness Pentecostal
"which has often been accused of Oneness Pentecostal doctrines." Considering this accusation is false, does it belong in the lead without a counter? And shouldn't it be cited? -- Steven Fisher 13:58, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
- Probably should be cited, but so should the assertion that the accusation is false. - raekwon 14:04, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
- I've done both. I also feel we need additional references if the article is going to say this accusation is made often. -- Steven Fisher 14:17, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Use of "postmodern"
I think you should consider a word besides postmodern when discusses the book on J.D. Jakes. I don't think an a preacher could ever be considered postmodern because he claims to have a totalizing worldview. However, if you mean post-modern in the historical sense (ie. after the modern period) then you should at least point this out. But even in the historical sense it's kind of dodgy. Could you be more descriptive of what the book's about rather than relying on this catch-all term? --Farbotron 17:36, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Indian/Hindu origins of African-American names?!
It is funny to see some African Amercian names that seem to be having Hindu/Indian origins. Case in point is Pastor Jakes' wife's name : Serita. Could it possibly be that this name owes it's origin to the Hindu name : Sarita (or Saritha, if it were South Indian). Another example that one can think of is that of the singer Ashanti (In Hindi/Sanskrit, Ashanti means violence, because Shanti stands for Peace. Remember the chant : Om Shanti Shanti Shanti). I'd love to see someone comment on my observations. There are other examples that I have observed in the past but am unable to immediately recall.
- Ashanti is almost certainly named after the Ashanti people of Ghana, West Africa, and has no connection (other than homophony) to the Sanskrit word. Serita is likely an Anglophone alternate spelling of the Spanish name "Sarita", a diminutive of "Sarah". -Ben 02:29, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Title of his wife
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- Many members of his congregation refer to his wife Serita as "First Lady."
It's traditional in many U.S. black churches to refer to the pastor's wife as "First Lady" - particularly if the congregation is large or the pastor's title is "Bishop". --Uncle Ed 17:30, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Education
I was wondering what his educational background is? I see nothing of it here or on his web site. Anyone know? --Nhoj 21:29, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
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I have removed the following section, added by an unregistered user, due to being unsourced and violating the WP:NPOV policy:
[edit] Criticisms
Jakes is considered a heretic by many evangelicals because of his controversial views on the Trinity. While most Christians hold to the orthodox view of the Trinity (God as 3 persons in 1), Jakes holds to the heretical teaching of modalism (God as 1 person who acts in 3 modes).
Jakes has also been heavily criticized by many evangelicals for his controversial teachings of the prosperity gospel (the unbiblical view that God wants all Christians to be "happy, healthy, and wealthy") and for his luxurious lifestyle, custom, designer suits, luxury vehicles, and multi-million dollar mansion.
- For the first paragraph, if T.D. Jakes is really a modalist, it may deserve a mention in the article (but wihout labelling it as "heresy") - if it can be sourced and verified; regarding the second one, if other evangelists criticize him for his lifestyle, it's a matter of "pot calling the kettle black". - Mike Rosoft 07:17, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
- I will look for some sources for this, from his own writings. As to modalism heretical (i.e. non-orthodox), I think one might need to cite sources on this, it seems like it could be notable that one of America's best-known ministers would be outside the bounds of orthodoxy - that would definitely need sources. 「ѕʀʟ·✎」 05:17, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
