Talk:Téa Leoni
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we need pronounciation of the name
can someone redirect Tea Leoni to here? Godm0de 05:22, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Italian
This doesn't seem to say that her great-grandmother wasn't Italian, nor does the genealogy site. This [1] says "The name Téa is a variation of a Tahitian name belonging to a friend of her parents at the University of Virginia, where they met. Her mother is from Texas, her father is a New Yorker of Polish-Italian lineage who practiced law. The family name was Pantaleoni." The other site doesn't give much info. on her great-grandmother. Since most sources classify her grandfather as Italian, it violates WP:NOR to say her great-grandmother wasn't. Michael 03:59, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
- Is there a reputable source that explicitly calls her grandfather Italian? I haven't ever seen a single reputable source that called her grandfather "Italian" or even "Italian-American". Just one or two sources that noted Leoni's father had Polish and Italian heritage and didn't get into further details Mad Jack 06:16, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
- BTW, the Wiki article says her great-grandmother was American, which isn't an ethnicity (i.e. "American" can be anything by ethnicity). It's referring to her birth place and her parents birth place. The note says her great-grandmother was not of Italian parentage, and that's correct, because her great-grandmother's parents were American. The note doesn't say that the great-grandmother was not of Italian descent, but rather that she was not of Italian parentage (i.e. specifically her parents were not Italians but Americans, regardless of their and her ancestry) Mad Jack 06:16, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
- That's misleading to say she's not when it's possible she is. It wouldn't be a violation of WP:NOR is you said she was American, but to say she wasn't Italian is. Nothing says she wasn't, so we cannot either. Michael 17:43, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
- Ah, but we aren't saying that she wasn't Italian. We're saying she wasn't of "Italian parentage", i.e. her parents were not Italian - and they weren't - they were Americans. Whether they were Americans of Italian descent or not is a completely different story. If you want to change it to stating that Leoni's paternal great-grandfather was Italian, while her great-grandmother was American and so were her parents, you should (i.e. removing the "she was not" altogether). Because, of course, while nothing says she wasn't Italian, nothing says that she was either. Mad Jack 20:01, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
- That's misleading to say she's not when it's possible she is. It wouldn't be a violation of WP:NOR is you said she was American, but to say she wasn't Italian is. Nothing says she wasn't, so we cannot either. Michael 17:43, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
- BTW, the Wiki article says her great-grandmother was American, which isn't an ethnicity (i.e. "American" can be anything by ethnicity). It's referring to her birth place and her parents birth place. The note says her great-grandmother was not of Italian parentage, and that's correct, because her great-grandmother's parents were American. The note doesn't say that the great-grandmother was not of Italian descent, but rather that she was not of Italian parentage (i.e. specifically her parents were not Italians but Americans, regardless of their and her ancestry) Mad Jack 06:16, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
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