Talk:Swingers (2002 film)

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• The COI tag seems relevant, since I am the producer/director of this film. On the other hand, I don't see any too promotional positive remarks in this article other then just interesting trivia, which also can be read on third party sites such as Moviemeter (Although it's in Dutch). I even state that the film didn't do well in theaters, so how positive do I get? I had the same discussion on the Dutch Wikipedia, and voting was 90% in favor to keep the article. This film is sold internationally and so the English version is usefull. I think it's only a plus that a filmmaker himself can add these details to an article. I also contribute on other topics, and others have contributed to this topic as well. Please let me know which trivia is not according to the guidelines, and remove them.Brenn 20:22, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

The trivia that you removed probably are the worst COI issues, as they seemed to be "inside information" that couldn't be cited elsewhere. One suggestion that I often make in COI issues, is have a someone you know in the industry in your country do some editing on the page. Not just as a favor to you (see WP:SOCK), but as an objective editor. Certainly, he or she should link to third party reviews and such, even if they're in a foreign language. Better than nothing. I'm replacing the COI tag for the moment, because this is largely your page about your movie that you have a COI issue with. Just removing the tag does not resolve the issue that you're editing a page about your own work. Imagine William Shatner editing his own page, I mark it COI, and then he edits it again, removing the COI tag -- seem like a conflict of interest? Most people would say yes. Try my suggestion instead of just wiping out my warning, please. Happy editing! David Spalding (☎ ✉ ✍) 17:00, 14 January 2007 (UTC)