Talk:Suzuki Wagon R

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Could someone confirm exactly what is built in India - is it the normal kei car Wagon R (with 660cc engine), or the larger Wide or + models? And which generation/what dates? Same goes for Indonesian and Chinese derivatives - more info please! --Zilog Jones 15:06, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sources urgently needed!

Hi, I have nominated the article for W:DYK, but today the admin usually updating the template informed that the article needs to have references in order to be featured. If you could provide some references you used while writing this article, it would be great. This needs to be done ASAP, otherwise the nomination will fall :( Bravada, talk - 06:49, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

What parts do we need references for extacly? I got the specs for the current Wagon R+ from the Suzuki UK website (linked below), and specs/dates elsewhere from either the Japanese WP article or specs.amayama.com. I got the "tall wagon" from the Japanese WP (ja:軽トールワゴン - "kei tall wagon"), but my Japanese ain't great so I can't translate most of it.

I'm not certain if it is the first car to be designed like that - the Japanese page lists the 1972 Honda Life Step Van ([1]) in the history section, but I don't know what it says about it - I'd always thought of it as a van more than a car, then again it was available with 5 doors and rear seats (there were also van and pickup versions). It also lists the 1990 Mitsubishi Minica Top, though that's not really an original design (there is a Minica without a crazy roof). The Wagon R appears to be the first in the recent trend of original design kei tall wagon cars - the Daihatsu Move, Honda Life et al only appeared after 1993. But the Japanese pages don't cite their sources either, so I dunno. --Zilog Jones 15:16, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Let me answer your first question first - the answer is ALL. All the articles should be referenced in full by default (even though a majority of WP editors neglect that, sadly). The easiest way to do so is just to mark a fragment you add with the appropriate reference when you are editing. Talbot Tagora can serve as an example of a well-referenced article, as it fell prey to the specialists from WikiProject Cite Sources (or whatever their name is) during the FAC process. Should you have any problems regarding the technical side of the issue, I will gladly help you with that.

I have no gripes about the factual side of the article, as I haven't checked that - the sources requirement is purely formal, but important. I don't speak Japanese at all, so I use Google Translate - the results are funny and confusing sometimes, but I think I can infer quite a lot from that, especially cross-referencing with other sources. Regards, Bravada, talk - 15:23, 18 August 2006 (UTC)