Talk:Survivors (novel)

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[edit] Speedy delete?

The speedy tag is not the right tag for this case, the article is about a book, not a person? It's a book with over a million copies in print, not a massive amount all told, but I think that makes it notable enough for Wikipedia. Darksun 20:17, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

A million? That would make it quite notable indeed. What's its ISBN? Rklawton 20:35, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

ISBN 9966-755-00-4 --Darksun 21:05, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Can you explain how a book with an ambigious claim to a million copies in print could also have no Amazon sales rank? I'm not very clear on this, and the whole thing looks fishy. Rklawton 21:10, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Not really. Who knows, perhaps they're lying, but the claim to have a million copies is printed on the cover and on the copyright page. I'll post a copy when I get a chance. I believe the book is Australian, so maybe the majority of sales are there. --Darksun 21:42, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

http://img90.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1000312iu2.jpg Sorry about the photo, but since i don't have a scanner it's the best I can do--Darksun 21:49, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

I've removed the speedy deletion tag. Take it to AfD if you want it gone; this isn't a clear-cut enough issue (in my opinion) to warrant a speedy deletion. EVula // talk // ☯ // 04:57, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

I think you're right. I'd meant to do that yesterday. The book really looks suspicious. Over 1M books, and less than 500 Google hits, etc. I might take it to AfD, but I need to research a better "case" first. Rklawton 13:47, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

From what I've read up, the book is distributed free by various religious groups, although it's also availiable for sale. The majority of the 1M copies might have been given away free rather than sold, accounting for the low sales rank, but I see no reason to disbelieve the printing figures and I think that 1 million copies makes it notable, whether or not they're given away or sold. --Darksun 14:25, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Self-published books need special consideration. The 1M figure, without verifiable evidence otherwise, isn't questioned. The issue I see is that 1) it's self-published, AND 2) it's got less than 500 Google hits. This raises some red flags for me, but bears further investigation before I'd nominate it for an AfD. Rklawton 16:31, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

I don't know if this will help but http://fr.bookbutler.com/do/bookSearch;jsessionid=6AE5F4880A68BE9FE46B0F37BC4B97DD?searchBy=isbn&pageNr=1&searchFor=9966755004&searchIn=de&shipTo=gb&amountIn=gbp Seriphyn 15:54, 9 March 2007 (UTC)