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Hi Superstooge, thanks for leaving a message on my talk page. There are certain minimum criteria that subjects must meet in order to have an article on Wikipedia. First, the information must be verifiable using a reliable source. When you write an article, it is best to cite your sources so that they can be easily found and evaluated by others (which is one reason why I added some external links to the Stooges pages that you created). In order to have an article of its own, the subject must also be notable. Some topic areas already have notability guidelines, while others like schools are under discussion (see WP:SCHOOLS). Even though the schools guideline is not yet adopted, there is general agreement among editors that schools must meet some threshold of notabilty in order to have an article. Also, there are three different deletion avenues here. Can you tell me what the name of the school/article was? I'm curious regarding how/why it was deleted and I'd like to look it up. Thanks. Accurizer 22:43, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
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Sure. It was Arminta St. School in North Hollywood, California.
Superstooge 22:58, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
- OK, I found it; it was deleted under the "speedy deletion" process. If an article falls under the speedy deleton criteria, it can be deleted by an administrator without any specific discussion by the community, because there is already community consensus to delete articles that fall under these criteria. This is what happened to your article (the deletion record is here). Specifically, an editor nominated the article for speedy deletion under criteria for Articles, #3 (A-3), which means it had no content or very little content. An administrator agreed with the editor and deleted it. In the deletion summary, the administrator left a description of the article contents, so that other editors would have a general idea of what it contained in the event any questions arose later. Based on the information in the summary, it seems the article was vague and incomplete. While I understand your frustration about having it deleted, try to keep in mind that hundreds and hundreds of articles are created daily that shouldn't be, and the community has to deal with that in some fashion. Ideally, you should have received a note from either the nominator or the administrator explaining why it was deleted. But, when there are huge backlogs of work, the notification part sometimes doesn't happen. The good news is that articles deleted under the speedy deletion process can be recreated, provided there is enough verifiable information and the subject meets the notability criteria and other requirements such I discussed above. I would recommend you first create it in your user space by clicking here: User:Superstooge/Arminta Street Elementary School. This way, it will not be deleted as you work on it. You can then ask other editors if they agree that it is worthy of an article. If other editors agree, it can be easily moved into the article space. Before you spend a lot of time on it, however, I would caution you that the notability criteria for schools is under discussion at WP:SCHOOLS, and my understanding is that most elementary schools will not meet the inclusion criteria.
- In addition to speedy deletion, there are two other deletion processes. One is called proposed deletion, or "PROD". This process captures articles that don't fall under one of the speedy criteria but should be fairly obviously deleted (for example, articles that may look o.k. but are unverifiable – possible hoaxes). Anyone can object to a PROD and it won't be deleted. Also, an article that was deleted under PROD can be recreated. However, another editor can take it to the most formal deletion process, called Articles for deletion, or "AFD". Here, discussion takes place for 5 days about whether an article should or should not be deleted. At AFD, an article is deleted only when a community consensus is reached to do so. Once consensus is reached to delete, it is pretty much binding. The speedy deletion process and PROD were developed to remove the burden from AFD of having to discuss hundreds of obvious deletion candidates.
- The reason no one got back to you when you posted your question is because you posted it on a page used for AFD. No one saw it, because the article did not go through the AFD process. In the future, the best thing to do is look up the article in the deletion log, and contact the administrator directly to discuss the situation. The admin can restore the article if it was deleted in error. The admin could even restore it to your user space as I discussed above. If the admin decides against restoring it, or if you can't reach the admin, you could appeal the deletion at Wikipedia:Deletion review.
- I hope this is a good explanation of what occurred and why. If you have further questions, just drop a note on my talk page again. Regards, Accurizer 00:49, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
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