Talk:Suplex

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[edit] Twilt-a-whirl suplex

I might have missed it if due to a different name. Scott Steiner used to perform this kove. Shawn Michaels used to do the back breaker version. Is it in here?(Halbared 13:43, 2 July 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Suplex slams

Do suplex slams really belong here? They start out like suplexes, but they aren't really suplexes. It seems odd for them to be here while the suplex powerslam (jackhammer), arguably just as suplex-like as these if not more so, remains in the general throws article. Gwalla | Talk 05:56, 31 May 2005 (UTC)

Suplex slam sounds like a Jackhammer to me, what's the diff?(Halbared 17:11, 5 June 2006 (UTC))

Jackhammer is a suplex powerslam. Basically the difference is that in a powerslam the wrestler lands on top of the opponent, and in a normal suplex slam just throws the opponent down, while remaining standing.
Lakes (Talk) 18:21, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

A bit off topic, but can anyone tell me what the difference between a suplex slam and an inverted suplex slam is? The descriptions sound exactly the same. Donco 19:29, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Hrm. I suppose the "suplex slam" should refer to the variation where opponent is turned and slammed down on their back, and inverted where the opponent isn't turned. The descriptions need to be completely rewritten.
Lakes (Talk) 20:15, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Crossface chickenwing suplex

Is this move actually in common use? I don't doubt that it's possible, but I've never seen it or heard of it being used. Gwalla | Talk 29 June 2005 01:07 (UTC)

I was working on the new Tiger Mask IV article and added this move, forgetting to add the reference to him. See http://www.puroresufan.com/images/moves/tigermaskmillenium.jpg for a picture.
Lakes 29 June 2005 01:15 (UTC)
Great, thanks! Gwalla | Talk 29 June 2005 02:26 (UTC)

[edit] Origin of the word

The word "suplex" is actually from the French word "souplesse", so the pronunciation soo-plex is closer to the original pronunciation (soo-pless). -Voievod 00:12, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] And More About the Origin

Souplesse, kind of like the word supple, meaning flexible. Hmmm, if flexing something is twisting or turning it, then I guess you can have a class of moves that involve flipping an opponent over or swinging them around. Most forms of throws like the hip-toss,arm-drag throw, side-headlock-flipover and then moves like the powerbomb (which has a good deal of flipping of the opponent) the powerslam I guess.

I read somewhere that in the judged, competative wrestling, a high score is given for moves that involve flipping the opponent over, or maybe swinging them sideways like the belly to back suplex.

I'm not sure how the word souplesse is pronounced in french. My guess is it would sound like 'suplays', pronoucing the 'e' with an 'a' sound. So I guess suplex and suplay are both close enough to the french word. but stuff it about which is more correct, I'll just say suplex which I prefer more. Hmmm I remember whatching some japanese wrestling commentated by Larry Lugo and Stately Wayne Manor I think, where Lugo was saying 'That was a good suplay..or suplex depending on whose school of thought..." and I think Stately Wayne said something like "Hey I just call it suplex".

[edit] Tazplex and Sleeper Plex

Arent those the same?