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Archive 1

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[edit] Adam Viniteri is not the first person to win 4 superbowls

Joe montana won 4, and everyone knows it.

  • It says "Adam Vinatieri became the first kicker..." I didn't know Joe Montana was a kicker... --W.marsh 01:36, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Broadcast

I'm a bit confused right now, since what I saw in Germany on NASN was an NFL Network presentation and not the CBS presentation. Did both stations show the SuperBowl - and why are Europeans forbidden from watching the CBS show? Maybe someone can shed some light on this... --212.34.171.12 10:03, 6 February 2007 (UTC)


In the US the NFL Network only did the pre-game and post-game shows. The actual game was broadcasted by CBS only.

[edit] Pictures

We need nore pics here. 70.22.38.231 02:00, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Seconded. Anyone have a picture of Prince's musical phallus? I was in the bathroom when that happened. ;_; "Do what you can, with what you have, where you are." 23:55, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Opening Paragraphs

In the third paragraph of the opening remarks, the Super Bowl Firsts statements are made, one being that Tony Dungy is the first African American head coach to win the Super Bowl. I added to this comment that this is the first Super Bowl to have two African American head coaches. This is a tie-in to the first statement and also a first. Metamorphousthe 14:37, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

I'd think that the bit on the first African American head coaches should probably go before the other firsts.

[edit] Infobox

I replaced the subst'ed in infobox with the a non-substed version. This is in line with the boxes on all of the other recent bowl articles, and is MUCH easier for casusal editors to maintain. In doing so, some information not historically presented in this box was removed. See this diff for the information. Some of it may be approriate in a section of the article if anyone wants to salvage it. Thank you, — xaosflux Talk 00:01, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Xaos, you should call archive 1 "Pre-Game/Prelude". Real96 00:45, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
Nah, I took the liberty to do so. Real96 02:35, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Botched extra point

Does the botched XP count as a 2-point attempt? NFL.com lists it as "A.Vinatieri extra point is Aborted, Center-J.Snow, Holder-H.Smith."... Js farrar 00:29, 5 February 2007 (UTC)


Yes, it should count as a botched 2 pt attempt.

It does count as a failed 2 point attempt, according to NFL rules.JohnnyRush10 03:12, 6 February 2007 (UTC)


also, "This marked Adam Vinateri's first pre-season field goal miss in the 2006 season. ". THis is obviously not correct. this marks the first POST season miss.


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[edit] Can an admin protect this page?

Please? There is way too much vandalism occurring on here. (i.e. Bears vandal/Pope arrington vandal/etc.) Real96 02:01, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Nevermind, Jaranda has done that. Real96 02:02, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
I don't understand why we protect it for like 10 minutes and then take it off, just to have to page vandalized again. Protection needs to stay on for all of tonight.--Surfaced 02:10, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
It is semi-protected. Abecedare 02:17, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
Umm, maybe I'm not seeing it (I'm trusting the edit summaries), but I only see one revert in the last hour. Being on the main page isn't a rationale for sprotection (see most FA pages, for example). There's certainly enough of us monitoring the article to obviate any attempt at vandalism. -Cmprince 02:56, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

(reduce indent) IP vandals were targeting the page per minute -- which is a high rate. The reason that you don't see any vandalism is because registered users are only allowed to edit. Enough users were monitoring the page, but the vandalism got out of hand, resulting in edit conflicts as well as vandal edits still existing on the page. Real96 03:18, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

My bad, I didn't see when the protect went on. Still doesn't look like it was that bad, but it's a judgment call. And I won't use a red hanky on this one :) Cmprince 03:24, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] International broadcast

The game is being broadcasted live in China by CCTV on its sport channel CCTV-5. Can someone please add this to the article since its protected?

Done John Reaves (talk) 03:05, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Expected Vandalism?

I'm just going to take a wild guess that some of the drunk, internet-savvy NFL fans will be targeting this article, as well as the Colts, Bears, and Rex Grossman articles. Protected? Hojimachong 03:02, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Already is? John Reaves (talk) 03:03, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
It's already semi-protected. Considering it's a current events piece which will likely be checked out by many people, it should be open at least to registered users. Just because something is high profile doesn't mean it gets an automatic protect, for example, FAs are encouraged to be open. I mean, maybe someone will make a godless killing machines joke or something, but considering it's also being monitored by many editors any vandalism will be reverted faster than anyone notices it. It harms wikipedia more to prot it than to leave it open to vandals -- febtalk 03:10, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Important Facts

I appreciate the article especially since it was made quickly, but don't forget to acknowledge the fact that Tony Dungy is the first African-American coach to win a superbowl.BlackIntellect 03:18, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Should make that point on his article as well as this one as well. Real96 03:35, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Participants who had appeared in previous editions

In my opinion, this article (and the other year-specific Super Bowl entries) should mention which participants had prior Super Bowl experience, like Adam Vinatieri, or Tony Dungy (as a player). -- ChaChaFut 17:34, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lock Request

Can we please lock this page?? The Vandalism is getting ridiculous.

But I am a Colts fan! World Champs baby!!! w00t!! Soakologist 04:11, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

It's already semi-protected. While there is some light vandalism, given the high profile of this article, it should not be taken to m:The Wrong Version because editors can easily undo it, and we could get some valuable new contributors to wikipedia through it -- febtalk 04:15, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

It is NO LONGER semi-protected. I agree, this really needs to be semi-protected for a while. --Zimbabweed 04:20, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
agreed that this article should stay protected for the next day or so until this vandalism dies yuckfoo 04:41, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
It's been re-protected. John Reaves (talk) 04:43, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Myspace

Myspace has a page with all of the superboal commercials. They ahev been promoting it and i figured it should be added to the page but it is protected so i can't. The site is http://www.myspace.com/superspots Rosario lopez 04:45, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Shift in tense

In the middle of the second paragraph of Broadcasting - United States, there is a shift in tense from past to future (undoubtedly from an incomplete edit) that seems very awkward. I'd change it myself, but I don't feel like exerting the energy to remember my password. 75.73.41.56 07:28, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Game summery

The game summary needs work. First, "His return was so impressive that the Colts decided to squib kick their kickoffs for the rest of the game to keep the ball out of his hands." is incorrect (and poorly worded - impressive?) - after the first squib kick, Hester was moved up by the Bears - the Colts then kicked it deep. I'll try to fix it but am short on time. — Zaui (talk) 16:21, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

I am just confirming this was the case. In general, the Colts special teams tried to keep the ball away from Hester for the rest of the game. The Bears special teams moved hester up and confused even Jim Nantz who thought he wasn't in on the return. 68.103.207.65 18:51, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
Looks good now. — Zaui (talk) 21:10, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Prince halftime show.

the following phrase is technically true "... Creedence Clearwater Revival hit "Proud Mary", the Bob Dylan composition "All Along The Watchtower"... ", however, I believe the intent (due the the style of both snippets) was the recall the Ike and Tina Turner version of Proud Mary, and the Jimi Hendrix version of All Along the Watchtower. I am not sure how to incoprorate this without it getting awkward ("Proud Mary, with a second female singer, to evoke the Ike and Tina Turner version of the CCR song", etc). But it does read wrong to me just noting the authors and not the most popular covers of both songs. CodeCarpenter 16:23, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Controversy Sprouts Over Prince's Super Bowl Halftime Show

NEW YORK — In the sensitive post-wardrobe malfunction world, some are questioning whether a guitar was just a guitar during Prince's Super Bowl halftime show. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,250581,00.html Crocoite 22:25, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

We Will Rock You?

The article claims that part of the set included "We Will Rock You". I don't remember that being in the set.

[edit] Trivia

This article contains a trivia section.
Content in this section should be integrated into other appropriate areas of the article or removed, and the trivia section removed.
Reintegrated into article. Butnotthehippo 16:20, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

*The NFL told a number of Indianapolis churches that they were not allowed to show the Super Bowl via big screen televisions to their Colts-fan parishoners, threatening legal action.[3] Conversely, sports bars nationwide are allowed to show the game. This maneuver earned the NFL a "Worst Person in the World" silver on the February 2, 2007 edition of Countdown with Keith Olbermann. After that and other bad press, the NFL issued a statement that they did not object to churches hosting Super Bowl parties, so long as they did not charge admission and showed the game on "a television of the type commonly used at home".[4]

Reintegrated into article. KyuuA4 17:26, 5 February 2007 (UTC)


  • This is the first Super Bowl in history to have a touchdown run in on the opening kick off. It was the eighth kick return for a touchdown in a Super Bowl. In four Super Bowls played at Dolphin Stadium, all have had a kickoff returned for a touchdown. However, all kick returns for touchdowns were scored by the losing team.
  • Hester's score 14 seconds into the game was the quickest in a Super Bowl breaking the San Francisco 49ers' record of 1 minute, 24 seconds which they did in Super Bowl XXIX. That game was also played in Miami at Dolphin Stadium.
  • With Hester's touchdown, the Bears became the fourth team in Super Bowl history to score on the game's opening possession. Other teams to do so were: the Miami Dolphins in Super Bowl VIII, the 49ers in Super Bowl XXIX and the Green Bay Packers in Super Bowl XXXII.
  • Hester and Reggie Wayne became the first alumni of the same school to score the first two touchdowns in a Super Bowl. Both players went to the University of Miami.
  • Adam Vinatieri became the first kicker ever to play in five Super Bowls and win four Super Bowl rings. Vinatieri's three field goals and two extra points gave him a total of 49 points during the entire postseason, an NFL record.
  • Joseph Addai's 10 receptions tied a Super Bowl record for a running back. Miami's Tony Nathan had 10 in Super Bowl XIX.
  • Muhsin Muhammad, who also scored a touchdown as a member of the Carolina Panthers in Super Bowl XXXVIII, became the third player ever to score a touchdown in two different Super Bowls for two different teams, joining Ricky Proehl and Jerry Rice. Proehl scored one with the St. Louis Rams in Super Bowl XXXVI and one with the Panthers in XXXVIII while Rice scored seven while with the San Francisco 49ers in Super Bowls XXIII, XXIV and XXIX and scored one with the Oakland Raiders in Super Bowl XXXVII.
  • This was the first time that both teams scored touchdowns in the first quarter since Super Bowl XXXII. It was also the first time the NFC team scored a touchdown in the first quarter since that Super Bowl. That game pitted the Green Bay Packers against the Denver Broncos.
  • This was the third Super Bowl to have two players rush for more than 100 yards as Dominic Rhodes had 114 for the Colts and Thomas Jones had 113 for the Bears. The previous Super Bowls in which that happened were Super Bowl III (Matt Snell had 121 for the Colts and Tom Matte had 116 for the New York Jets) and Super Bowl XXV (Ottis Anderson had 102 for the New York Giants and Thurman Thomas had 135 for the Buffalo Bills.
  • Tony Dungy is the third man to win the Super Bowl as a coach as well as a player (with the Pittsburgh Steelers in Super Bowl XIII), following Tom Flores (Super Bowl IV as the backup quarterback with the Kansas City Chiefs and coaching the Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders in Super Bowls XV and XVIII) and Mike Ditka (Super Bowl VI with the Dallas Cowboys and coaching the Bears in XX). Dungy also became the first African-American coach to win the Super Bowl.
  • Vinatieri was given the honor to call the coin-toss. Adam called "Tails". It turned out to be "Heads" and the Colts lost the toss. The NFC won the coin toss for the 10th straight Super Bowl (dating back to Super Bowl XXXII). They are 2-8 in those games and have lost the last four.
  • With this game, every division in the NFL has been represented in the Super Bowl since the 2002 realignment.
  • The Colts became the second franchise to win the Super Bowl in two different cities winning Super Bowl V, held in Miami as the Baltimore Colts, joining the Raiders, who won Super Bowl XI and XV in Oakland, and XVIII in Los Angeles, and the third to play in two different cities, joining the aforementioned Raiders and the Rams (Super Bowl XIV in Los Angeles, and Super Bowls XXXIV and XXXVI in St. Louis.)


[edit] Booing Mushlin muhammed

Shouldn't the racist heckling of the Bears player Muhammed when he was announced in the stadium or whenever he touched the ball be mentioned in this article? --90.192.92.142 01:37, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Racist? I would highly doubt that the booing was "racist", but everyone just hates the Bears :P. It's a football game, I think the boos were just part of the normal course of crowd noisemaking. Hojimachong 05:24, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
I know this sounds like a lame joke, but it isn't. They weren't saying "boooooo" they were saying "mooooooooosh". --W.marsh 05:32, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
You have got to be kidding me. "Racist heckling?" Are you crazy? His name is Muhsin Muhammad. Moo Moo. Mooooooo. Anybody who's ever watched a moment of sports in their lives understand this phenomenon. What is a greater insult is spelling his name incorrectly (said the Pats fan). JHMM13  08:06, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
What's funny is you spelled the player's name right, but the original poster didn't. Zing! --208.44.234.50 22:25, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
I take it from your comment that you've never been to a Bears game in Chicago. When he gets on the field or otherwise, we tend to chant "MOOSE" because that his nickname.[1] I can definitely understand why people misunderstand it, but it's actually a form of praise and not a racist attack as you think. --208.44.234.50 22:23, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Driving rainstorm? Not to this local.

Since I live right near the stadium, and video evidence also shows that the rain was a drizzle, I find it strange that it is not only written as a "driving rainstorm", but that my edit was reverted back to the original incorrect information. Rather than get into an edit war over a trivial detail, I will ask others' opinion as to whether that game was played and whether Prince was standing in a drizzle or a driving rainstorm. CodeCarpenter 18:49, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

As a Kansas resident, I've heard a lot of terms for weather. However, I have never heard of a "driving" rainstorm. A google search for the term, in quotes, tells me that it is used sporadically but surely there is a better term. 68.103.207.65 18:55, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
"Driving rain" is a common expression. "Heavy rain" or "intense rain" might also be good choices. Steve Dufour 19:12, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
"Driving rain" is a fairly well known expression. I think it denotes rain that is being pushed, or "driven" by a heavy wind.Butnotthehippo 20:15, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
I also live near the stadium. At no point was there a "driving rain." It wasn't "pouring" or intense. I think the best bet may be to leave out an adjective all together and merely say "rain." Butnotthehippo 20:15, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
That's usually the best bet. └Jared┘┌talk┐  01:44, 6 February 2007 (UTC)


I was at the actual game and it was definitely more than a drizzle. I'm sure other people who were at the game can attest to that. Better yet, just read some of the interviews from the players. A light drizzle would not have affected the game like that.

[edit] news

Is it prominent enough on the main page? If the world cup soccer champ held sway for so long, this should be on for just as long. After all, Wikipedia is headquartered in Florida. --216.9.250.62 04:18, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

  • It'll basically be on the main page until 3-4 new stories or added, or 1 new sports story would probably bump it off. --W.marsh 15:04, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
world cup is bigger and a longer running event.Geni 19:01, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Prohibiting church display

This section makes no mention of why the NFL required churches to be bound by the same rules other organizations are bound to, nor does it present the opinion of those in favor of this position. It is written with a clear bias against the policy, and goes to lengths to show public disapproval of the policy. Jerimee 16:48, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

As to why, the answer is copyright law. I will include this into the article. The policy is not in dispute and did not change. The policy was, and is, churches cannot charge admission to watch the Super Bowl at parties. What happened was a misinterpretation of the policy and then a clarification of it. In the media there was an emphasis on the public disapproval of the policy. Thoughts? Butnotthehippo 22:18, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
It goes beyond just the admission charge. The NFL used an obscure part of copyright law to avoid lowering Nielsen ratings (which do not measure out-of-home use) which goes beyond the admission charge restriction. See, [2]. —Twigboy 22:31, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 200 countries?

The article says it was broadcast in more than 200 countries. How is this possible if there are only ~192 countries in the world? 207.203.80.14 22:45, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Actually there are 243 countries. John Reaves (talk) 23:02, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
I guess it depends on what you consider a country, but that does resolve it. Thanks. 207.203.80.14 15:48, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Commercials

Snickers Ad of Men Accidentally Kissing Pulled After Complaints From Gay Groups

HACKETTSTOWN, N.J. — A commercial for Snickers candy bars launched in the Super Bowl broadcast was benched after its maker got complaints that it was homophobic. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,250575,00.html Crocoite 23:44, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ironic?

I'm not the the "twist of irony" is clear in this pargraph: "One ad that drew criticism from the gay community was for the Snickers candy bar featuring two men accidentally "kissing" each other after sharing the product in question, then proceeded to rip chest hairs as a manly act. The ad was killed the next day by Masterfoods USA, Mars, Incorporated's snack food division and three other versions were deleted from the snickers.com web site. In a twist of irony, that ad was ninth in the USA Today ad survey." Chaz! 17:51, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree, there is nothing even slightly ironic about that. The fact that it was 9th in the ad survey is interesting and I'm going to leave that, but I'm going to delete the "twist of irony" clause. --Jaysweet 23:43, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] First gay referee trivia item is probably a joke

When I first read that the line judge was the first openly gay referee, I was like, "Oh, that's nice." Then I remembered this is Wikipedia and noticed it was unsourced. Yeah, that does not appear to be true. I added a {fact} tag, but it probably needs deleted, unless somebody knows something I don't... --Jaysweet 23:41, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Score at the top

Can someone edit the score in the opening paragraph? It reads 400-399. The actual final score was 29-17. It's an odd choice of vandalism

Just saw a few moments ago "0-117".
AppleMacReporter 01:53, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pics pics pics

Where are the pics? if no one gets a pd, cc or gdfl pic, then I'll have to upload some copyrighted ones. haha --– Emperor Walter Humala · ( talk? · help! ) 21:18, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

None of the recent Superbowl pages have pics. I don't know how you would even get a non-copyrighted one... I mean, I think even the freakin' game summary technically violates NFL copyrights (although I think they'd have an awfully hard time getting that to stand up in court).
I suppose we could have a picture of some Wikipedians at a Superbowl party ;D --Jaysweet 19:44, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
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