User talk:Sunja

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1 Welcome
2 Physical space (delete)
3 Physical space
4 OK
5 Image:Thatchmaking.jpg
6 Image copyright problem with Image:Cob Oven.jpg
7 Image copyright problem with Image:Cob interiorwall.jpg
8 Image Tagging Image:Cob interior.jpg
9 Image copyright problem with Image:Cob interior.jpg

[edit] Welcome

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Again, welcome! - UtherSRG 14:36, 18 Feb 2004 (UTC)

-thanks a bunch, was just wonderin when someone was going to come around and say hi! :~)sunja

Over on hydrothermal vent, you wrote "Recently Europa, a moon around Jupiter, was pretty much positively identified as having these." I wasn't aware of any evidence that positively confirmed the presence of such vents, only of stuff that suggests there might be some there. What findings is this positive identification based on? Bryan 09:16, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Oh, and welcome to Wikipedia from me, too. :) Bryan 09:17, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Physical space (delete)

Hi - I hope you won't mind my pulling "expert opinion" on you, but I saw your vote to save Physical space and I have just put in some comments about how wrong it is and I hope you'll rescind your vote. It may kind of look good to the casual reader, but it misses the whole idea of curved spaces; the curvature is defined by the geometry within them and it is misleading to look outside. I think there are some popular books on this and I can look for them if you want. Or we can dialogue. But we humans (and our machines and mountains) are stuck here in a 4-dimensional space and the "straight lines" this guy is thinking of are actually the geodesics in it; you cannot wish away the curvature and stick our universe in a larger flat space. I.e. those geodesics cannot be written as x = x0 + x1 t, y=y0+y1 t, z=z0+z1 t no matter how clever you may be at trying to convert to rectangular coordinates. Thanks for reading. Pdn 18:02, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Physical space

Can you explain why you are ignoring the result of the VfD, which was to make it a redirect? Steve block 09:09, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I am not nessesarily ignoring a general consensus, there were plenty of folks who considered the topic worth while and in need of clarifying and wikifying. If you look at the votes. I did not write the original so can not speak to the mathimatics involved, but as a topic Physical space is an extremely noteworthy topic, especially in a multicultural world. So my point is to keep it and make it into what it should be. It is rediculous to try to put all this relevant info into

such a small topic space. Please help to expand and clarify rather than just personally deleting it. thanks sunja 09:20, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but you are ignoring the consensus, the decision of the vote was for the page to be a redirect. Please respect that decision. Any information should be placed in the Space article. Thank you. Steve block 09:27, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Please remember to keep in mind the three-revert rule, which states that nobody may revert an article to a previous version more than three times in 24 hours. You have already reverted this article twice already. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia for at least 24 hours. Thank you. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 10:04, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] OK

Well I am sorry I did not leave a message before withdrawing my objection to physical space - actually I took a lot of philosophy at some point. I expect the article has some value, but I will not make a comment on how many times anybody should revert this and that. These people who bar a user for 24 hours do not have the determination of the gods who banished Prometheus and Sisyphus to their respective eternal fates, nor do they have the power, because any user can make up a dozen pseudonyms. What it amounts to is "death by keyboard" or winning by exhausting the opposition, as has happened in Wikipedia with religion, General Semantics,"intelligent design." Good luck saving what you can.

I strongly disagree with the quote from Koestler (including the misspelling of Rembrandt, who lost a "d"):""Einstein's space is no closer to reality than Van Gogh's sky. The glory of science is not in a truth more absolute than the truth of Bach or Tolstoy, but in the act of creation itself. The scientist's discoveries impose his own order on chaos, as the composer or painter imposes his; an order that always refers to limited aspects of reality, and is based on the observer's frame of reference, which differs from period to period as a Rembrant nude differs from a nude by Manet." " because this ignores the reality of science and of contact with the world. I do adore imaginative art work (Dali, Escher, Lichtenstein, Tanguy, de Chirico, and you can even call Monet and Renoir non-realists, as their brush strokes suggest forms that dissolve if you look too close. Science is not like that. If you try to cure cancer with wormwood, or to send a signal to the troops faster than light, or find water with dowsing, you are a loser. it.Pdn 13:19, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Thatchmaking.jpg

Hi - Do you recall where you got Image:Thatchmaking.jpg? It currently has no source and thus may be deleted at any moment. Thanks -SCEhard T 23:39, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

yes i do. have sourced the ones needing it, oops forgot. sunja 06:42, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for letting me know about the unsourced thatch picture my mistake, however I'd appreaciate it if you let me know that u also put the others on notice of deletion... And infact some of them were adequately sourced. Not all pictures need to conform to a specific usage rule, and in fact this would be most most hard, as not all sources agree fully with the gnu or publidomain license, but are perfectly fine with educational usage like wikipedia. thanks. sunja 06:54, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Regarding the following images: Image:Cob house dated 1539.jpg, Image:Cob Oven.jpg, Image:2story cob.jpg, Image:Cob interiorwall.jpg, Image:Thatchmaking.jpg, Image:Cob interior.jpg

Thank you for providing the sources on your images. I did not personally place the 'no source' tag on any of the above images; they have been tagged that way since one day after you uploaded them. Unfortunately, the copyright status of the images is still unclear. Do you have a link to the specific copyright information? All the images do need to have a copyright tag, as mentioned at the copyright tags page. Specifically, "Images on Wikipedia must be tagged to help adhere to copyright laws and identify free material for use." Thanks for your cooperation and understanding. -SCEhard T 16:19, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

hmm yes ok :/ just looked at the histories... These were uploaded before the tagging of images on wikipedia was formalized. seen here Image_copyright_tags#Presumed_Free_images so thats why, although i do remeber checking a box saying that they were not copyrighted. So thanks for letting me know, something i did not know had changed. :) sunja 07:22, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Cob Oven.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Cob Oven.jpg. However, the image may soon be deleted unless we can determine the copyright holder and copyright status. The Wikimedia Foundation is very careful about the images included in Wikipedia because of copyright law (see Wikipedia's Copyright policy).

The copyright holder is usually the creator, the creator's employer, or the last person who was transferred ownership rights. Copyright information on images is signified using copyright templates. The three basic license types on Wikipedia are open content, public domain, and fair use. Find the appropriate template in Wikipedia:Image copyright tags and place it on the image page like this: {{TemplateName}}.

Please signify the copyright information on any other images you have uploaded or will upload. Remember that images without this important information can be deleted by an administrator. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me. Thank you. Nv8200p talk 02:21, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Cob interiorwall.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Cob interiorwall.jpg. However, the image may soon be deleted unless we can determine the copyright holder and copyright status. The Wikimedia Foundation is very careful about the images included in Wikipedia because of copyright law (see Wikipedia's Copyright policy).

[edit] Image Tagging Image:Cob interior.jpg

This media may be deleted.

Thanks for uploading Image:Cob interior.jpg. I notice the 'image' page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is therefore unclear. If you have not created this media yourself then you need to argue that we have the right to use the media on Wikipedia (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the media yourself then you should also specify where you found it, i.e., in most cases link to the website where you got it, and the terms of use for content from that page.

If the media also doesn't have a copyright tag then you must also add one. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then you can use {{GFDL}} to release it under the GFDL. If you believe the media qualifies as fair use, please read fair use, and then use a tag such as {{fairusein|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags#Fair_use. See Wikipedia:Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.

If you have uploaded other media, please check that you have specified their source and copyright tagged them, too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any unsourced and untagged images will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Nv8200p talk 02:23, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Cob interior.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Cob interior.jpg. However, the image may soon be deleted unless we can determine the copyright holder and copyright status. The Wikimedia Foundation is very careful about the images included in Wikipedia because of copyright law (see Wikipedia's Copyright policy).

Photo's on the Cob Cottage Company web site may be used on other sites under the following terms: A photo credit to "Cob Cottage Company" (unless otherwise specified with the photo on the CCC web site) and a link to the Cob Cottage Company web site (www.cobcottage.com) must accompany each photo.

Do you think the above is sufficient? --Rtdrury 09:12, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Could you point me to the specific url where that is stated? Thanks! -SCEhard T 13:02, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

It was an emailed response, not stated on URL, and I got no respose to my follow-up. Rtdrury 23:15, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Well i will upload these again and add the info as the above release is just fine for wikipedia imo, i don't think i had the full release info on the image's pages.. sunja 00:02, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

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