Talk:Sunset Yellow FCF

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E110 is extremely common, Irn-Bru seems an irrelevant example. --Bb3cxv 13:39, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

Good idea. A discusion of the ban would be interesting. FDA makes some strange rules that prohibit or have prohibited popular products, re: E950, Absinthe, and the warnings on Saccharine. If you're interested in writing the surrounding text, it'd make a good addition. -- Bb3cxv 03:46, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

Are you guys sure that fd&c yellow #6 is the same thing as sunset yellow fcf? i see yellow 6 in products all the time in the USA, but apparently sunset yellow fcf is banned. someone may want to look into this...

You are right. FDA says it is legit. There seems to be an edit war on the page regarding this. E110 = FD&C Y #6. Full FDA info is at the FD&CY#6 regulation page. Edit war ends here and now. Bb3cxv 16:50, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

Yes and no, E102/Sunset Yellow FCF while chemically the same as FD&C Yellow #6, is not permitted in the USA. For any artifical food colouring to be permitted in the USA, a sample has to be tested by the FDA in their labs, and a tax paid, the size of which relates to the amount of the product being certified and has the same sample. The dye is typically manufactured in a batch process, of maximum size of around 1000kg, so it is generally the batch it is manufactured from. However as getting it certified as FD&C Yellow #6 is expensive, it is not uncommon for only part of a batch to be certified. There is large amounts of paper work that follow the batches around to prevent part of batch being certified and the whole batch being used as FD&C Yellow #6.

In most of the rest of the world (for example the E.U.) food dyes are self-certified by the manufacturers and no tax is paid. You could describe the situation in the USA as a "stealth tax" that the vast majority of the population is not aware of.

I am going to take the reference that it is banned in Finland of the main page as this is wrong. E110 is a permitted food colourant in the the E.U. and Finland is a member nation. It just simply cannot be legally banned in Finland.

Jabuzzard 00:47, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] what the heck does FCF stand for?

aren't we supposed to put newer topics at the top of the page? anyway, what the heck does FCF stand for? can't we use one of those HTML mouse-over things to indicate what this acronym stands for? --GrimRC 86.4.53.107 09:40, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

The FCF in a lot of the food colours stands (or so I was told) for "For Colouring Food", I worked for a year for a firm called Pointings who until they where taken over and shutdown where a major manufacturer of artificial food colourings, especially E102, and E110 in their various guises.

Jabuzzard 00:36, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Picture

In the picture, it shows N, Nitrogen in the middle of a double bond, while the Chemical Formula shows no Nitrogen in a molecule of this substance. Why is this? Which is wrong, the Chemical Formula or the picture. Thanks, Tcpekin 01:53, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

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