Talk:Summit Series
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[edit] CBC Movie
there's a movie on cbc right now called canada russia 72 in case anybody's interested. part 2 is on tomorrow. april 10, 2006 8:00 e.t.
[edit] Office tittle
Just thought I would add that the office title of the series was the friendship series--Mrebus 16:14, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- You mean official title? Do you have a Source? Kevlar67 22:55, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Goal Heard Around The World
In case anybody wants to debate this title of Paul Henderson's game winning goal, there are reliable sources at http://www.1972summitseries.com/goalheardaroundtheworld.html and http://www.hhof.com/html/t7gm02.shtml among other places. If somebody wants to add Foster Hewitt's play-by-play quote, I think that would be pretty cool. "Here's a shot. Henderson makes a wild stab for it and falls. Here's another shot. Right in front. They score! Henderson scores for Canada!" Millsy62 05:12, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Recent changes for "The Games"
The section "The Games" used to end with a Canadian-jingoist slant. So I changed this, but as others pointed out, I went too far the other way. The current version is a compromise. I don't much like it (and I wrote it and I was trying). As Andrwsc says, it seems tough to do properly.
Michael Dorosh would like a citation for the statement "In the Soviet Union, many people thought that their country would have won if the Canadians had not fractured the ankle of their best player". If a citation is needed for this, then there are several other statements in the section that should also require a citation! The quoted statement is surely obvious: (i) the eight-game series was so close that it was decided in the final minute and (ii) Kharlamov was arguably the best player in the series--on either team (he could go up against two NHL linesmen and go through/around them to score: no one in the NHL could do that). So it is pretty natural to speculate that if Kharlamov had not had his ankle fractured, the Soviets would have performed at least a little better, and so won the series. Moreover, the slashing of Kharlamov's ankle by Clarke was captured clearly on TV, and so it could be (and was) shown repeatedly afterwards; naturally, people will then talk about it. Daphne A 06:44, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
- Except that Wikipedia doesn't exist on uncited inferences or speculations, however much you can defend the logic. You could certainly speculate that Kharlamov could have made the difference, and it's a defensible notion, but this isn't a discussion forum. Wikipedia's rule is ironclad: if you make a statement of fact, you must be prepared to back it up, and editors can and should ruthlessly pull statements that fail of support. That's a statement that can and should be supported by primary sources. If you find other statements in the article that should be as well, feel free to tag those too! RGTraynor 00:12, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] POV issues
I think this part doesn't have a place in the wiki:
"Some observers felt that this series would serve to contrast two very different ways of life. It pitted the centrally planned society of the Soviets against the free society of Canada and the West. Victory in this series would thus be interpreted by some as a validation of the victor's society as a whole."
First: the soviet society was not centrally planed, it is impossible to do that with a society, it was centrally planed economy. If some US people think the cold war was "freedom" against "opression" doesn't mean it was like that. Then, what kind of observer does think that the victor would validate his society above the other?. Maybe the national honor, or the sport management were in the game... but the "better society" title? doubt it. At least cite the crazy source that believes it.--Bauta 16:17, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
- Whole heartedly agreed. "Canada and the West"? As if to assume that Team Canada had interest in being the hockey representative for the West. Furthermore, as Bauta mentioned, if some Americans felt that the cold war was "freedom" against "opression", why didn't the US engage in a similar sports summit against the Soviets? Since no one else has disputed this, I'll edit it. --Bentonia School 16:23, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
