Talk:Summer Glau

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Is there a source for her vegetarianism? - Ambientlight 04:34, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

This is where I read it. --Bacteria 02:34, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fansites

Why were the links to Summer Glau related fansites removed? the fansites contain many things that the article doesn't have (such as information, news, interviews, and photogalleries). Several articles about other Firefly actors have links to fansites (for example, see the articles for Nathan Fillion, Gina Torres, Jewel Staite and Alan Tudyk, they all have links to fansites). I think the fansites should be added back to this article. 70.17.132.73 03:58, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

See WP:EL for the external links policy. --Yamla 04:17, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

• What about the fansites linked on the other actor's articles? No one seems to have a problem with them. I don't understand why it's alright for some articles have links to fansites, and yet they are not allowed on this article. Just look at the articles for the other Firefly actors: they all have links to fansites. 70.17.132.73 04:27, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

See WP:EL. As a general rule, fansites aren't allowed anywhere. However, most articles aren't perfect. Many violate several Wikipedia policies and guidelines. It's just that nobody has got around to fixing them yet. --Yamla 04:30, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

• So do you intend on removing the fansite links from the other articles? If not, then that hardly seems fair for you to just remove them from here, and ignore the other articles. I think we should have links to fansites, as they contain extensive information, for example, Summer-Glau.net has the most Summer Glau interviews and videos I have ever seen, but no one who reads the article will be able easily access the interviews if there is no link to that fansite. 70.17.132.73 04:37, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Sorry but you are mistaken. Just because other articles don't follow Wikipedia policies and guidelines does not mean this one is excused. I have 2,957 pages on my watchlist as of right now and I remove inappropriate external links from all of them. If you dislike the external links guidelines, I recommend you suggest a new policy in the appropriate place. This talk page is not the right venue. --Yamla 04:41, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

• According to WP:EL, fansites are "Occasionally acceptable links": "Fan sites: On articles about topics with many fansites, including a link to one major fansite is appropriate, marking the link as such." So, the External Links policy says that "a link to one major fansite is appropriate". In that case, I would vote for Summer-Glau.net, since it has the most interviews, videos, and audios that I have ever seen on one site, and the most extensive photogallery that I have ever seen. 70.17.132.73 05:05, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Actually, the policy is that they are occasionally acceptable, not generally acceptable. That the site contains interviews is a definite plus. Image galleries, quickly-changing news boards, message boards, etc. aren't considered a good idea to link to. Furthermore, her official site has a number of fansites available through the links page. Given that we have a link to her official site (which is already essentially a fansite), I don't see that adding a direct link to summer-glau.net would be appropriate here. Energy would be better spent getting that site added to her official site if it is indeed the preeminent fansite. --Yamla 15:55, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Um, "already essentially a fansite"? Last I checked, "fansite" meant "unofficial" and "not run by the person it's a shrine to". Now, my brain is trying to tell me "it started as a fansite, and then became her official site by an agreement with the original webmaster because her agent wanted the domain and had they chosen to actually sue, they'd have probably won because traditionally domain names involving an uncommon name under which a particular person works under and is famous for have ended up being awarded to the celebrity as opposed to the person who started the site, under the argument that it was akin to a trademark", but if true, that actually still doesn't mean it's "essentially a fansite" by default. Check out the actual article on Wikipedia for fansite, and you'll see that there it's defined as "a website created and maintained by a fan(s) or devotee(s) interested in a celebrity, thing, or a particular cultural phenomenon," which muddies the waters a bit. Does it still count as an actual "fansite" if the actor uses it as their own official site? I mean, what's stopping the webmaster of say, JKRowling.com from being a fan of JK Rowling's work? Yet that person made that entire site, and it's not generally considered a "fansite". I don't mean to attack you here, I'm just wondering why you used that particular phrasing in this case, and if you could clear that up for me. I should think that, really, if that particular fansite were so overwhelmingly popular in this case, that we could afford to allow two links (but not more than that for obvious reasons, and only based on the fact that the fansite mentioned here has interviews. If those same interviews aren't available on Glau's official site, it could be well worth linking). Also an option, perhaps, is using that site as a source, instead of just a random external link. I mean, it has interviews, right? Assuming they don't every single one of them include only information that's seen everywhere else (that hasn't copied it from there, at least), that might be an excellent way to go about it, utilizing the one key feature in the site's favor (and adding a source and more infomation!), but not giving the impression that a ton of fansites is appropriate for WP's EL section. :) 63.21.7.204 23:37, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] FAQ

At what stage of development was the script when she was hired? I am pondering about the relationship between Summer's previous role as a ballerina and River's interest in dancing.

[edit] Photo

worst photo ever! HarveyDanger 03:49, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Not the best, I agree. But we are limited by copyright laws. There are very strict limits to what we can use freely on Wikipedia. Redux 04:02, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Could we use something from her website? I would think she would grant permission for Wikipedia to use a better photo if she was asked. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.7.175.177 (talk) 02:46, 19 January 2007 (UTC).

If the images on the website are copyrighted, we won't be able to use them. Since May 19, 2005, the Wikipedia:Image use policy no longer allows the use of copyrighted images with authorization specific for use on Wikipedia only. This means that, if whoever is responsible for the website gave permission for any given image to be used on Wikipedia only, we would still not be able to use it. Our best shot would be to find a free image somewhere, or a fair use image — unless, of course, the people associated with the website would agree to release some image for any purpose, but I figure this would be unlikely to happen. Redux 12:47, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

I have a photo I took at a convention of her signing some autographs I will upload it when I have a chance. HarveyDanger 05:05, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

We appreciate it. :-) Remember that, for the image to be usable, you would need to release it for all purposes. And if you are going to do it, please upload it to Commons, which is the media depository for all Wikimedia projects, rather than to Wikipedia. It only accepts free content. Once the image is there, you can link it to this article as you would normally any image that were hosted on Wikipedia, so there is no practical difference in terms of the code needed to link an image on Commons to a Wikipedia article. And there's the plus that, contrary to what would happen if the image were on Wikipedia, an image hosted on Commons can be linked to from any Wikimedia project (in this case, it could benefit the "Wikipedias" in other languages, which might also have biographic articles on Glau). Cheers, Redux 12:17, 23 January 2007 (UTC)