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[edit] The Evergreen School
I've lived in the area for almost three years, and I've never heard of this place; and I read the newspaper daily. -- stubblyhead | T/c 17:43, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- Although I do not live in the area, I was able to dig up a number of interesting stories about this school in the Seattle Post-Intelligencer, Seattle Daily Journal of Commerce, and several television news sites as well. It should really be noted that this article was nominated for deletion less than 30 minutes after I started building it, which I find borderline rude, but that is neither here nor there. I only ask that you note the changes I've made this morning which I feel demonstrate the importance of this school. Hopefully others will have the opportunity to expand the article as I have and will continue to do. Silensor 18:08, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
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- Interested in lending a hand? Look what I just found. Silensor 18:59, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
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- That looks like some really good information. I think that a school with a national-level chess team and a national geography bee champion would satisfy my notability criteria. I'll change my decision. -- stubblyhead | T/c 19:30, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] List of automobiles that were commercial failures up for deletion
Hi,
You have taken part in the AfD process for List of successful automobiles and voted delete. The decision was unanimous and the article was subsequently deleted. Now a corresponding article, List of automobiles that were commercial failures, is up for deletion for the same reasons. It would be only logicial and just to have them both deleted, so I cordially invite you to take part in the new discussion.
Regards, Bravada, talk - 09:06, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Minor edits
Remember to mark your edits as minor when, but only when, they genuinely are (see Wikipedia:Minor edit). Marking a major change as a minor one, or vice versa, is condsidered poor etiquette. The rule of thumb is that an edit of a page that is spelling corrections, formatting, and minor rearranging of text should be flagged as a 'minor edit'. -Will Beback 04:16, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
- PS You may have "mark all edits as minor" set in your preferences. -W.
- I assume you refer to my recent changes to pages about U.S. Congressmen and Senators? You don't specify, but that has been the bulk of my work recently. Most of what I've done is changing use of Infobox_Politician to Infobox_Congressman/Senator, which I think is "formatting that does not change the meaning of the page." If you disagree, I'll be happy to not mark these as minor in the future. -- stubblyhead | T/c 15:11, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
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- Changes such as adding a caption, replacing a photo, re-writing the description of a photo aren't minor. Swapping equivalent infoboxes is probalby minor. Thanks for the effort. Cheers, -Will Beback 20:03, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Politician Infoboxes
Hello Stubbyhead. Thanks for fixing the pictures in the politician infobox, allowing them to be the right size is a nice improvement. I think there is a problem with the other change you are making though...namely, switching the boxes from the generic politician box to specific office holder. Many (most) of these folks have held more than one office, and often it is hard to say which is more important. Therefore, we must use the generic box for them. Since that happens so often, I truly believe consistency requires the generic box be used for all politicians, although I do concede an argument can be made for using office specific info boxes for incumbent office holders. I hope you can see my point and not make this particular change in the future. Thanks stilltim 21:31, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
- I agree that the generic box is useful for people with a long career in politics, and I have let these stand in a number of instances. See my edits to Robert Torricelli's page, or lack of edits to quite a few historic figures from Delaware (seem to be quite a few of them using that template) for examples. I also agree that an incument office takes precedence over any previous offices. I don't think it's quite as difficult as you say to decide which would be more important. It's not uncommon for someone to move from state legislature to the national congress, and I don't think many would disagree that the national congress is more prominent. In cases where a person has been a congressman and a senator, or state governor, I have tried to reflect that in their infoboxes. Can you cite some examples where you think I've made a change inappropriately? -- stubblyhead | T/c 23:33, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
- I think consistency is the point. The reader should expect to see the same information in the same place for each article of similar subject. I would like to think all biographies could have the same infobox, but certainly all politician's biographies can. Therefore, Joe Biden, a good candidate for the Senator infobox, should be the same as J. Caleb Boggs, where the generic must be used. Standing alone, all your choices are appropriate, but in the larger context, none of them are. Thomas R. Carper and William V. Roth, Jr. should have the same presentation of information. And in Carper's case a casual reader might think all he did was be a U.S. Senator, when at this point anyway, his terms as Governor were as important. stilltim 11:19, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
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- I still must disagree with you. Boggs had a diverse political career, serving in both houses of Congress and as the Governor of Delaware. Biden, by contrast, had only a two-year stint as a county councilman before being elected to the Senate in the early 70s. Basically, I feel that the specific should be used for incumbent office-holders and those who didn't hold any other major office. If Sen. Biden were to retire from politics at the end of this term, would you feel it appropriate to switch to the generic politician infobox to make specific mention that he was in the New Castle County Council?
- I also think that saying all bios could have the same infobox is shortsighted. A good reason for specialization is ease of use. My primary interest on WP right now is congressional politics, and I've thus become pretty familiar with the templates I use. I don't know the specifics of other infoboxes because I'm not interested in the topics. Using a generic infobox could have two results, first being a complex unmanagable mess with a large number of optional parameters. If it were loosened somehow so the user could have more leeway in what fields to use, you'd have all uses of the template being different, again departing from the goal of standardization. I'll continue doing what I've been doing. You're free to revert if you like of course, but then again so am I. Cheers. -- stubblyhead | T/c 16:49, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Lyle Williams
Stubblyhead, just to clarify your comments on Jim Traficant's page, Lyle Williams was a three term congressman, but only served one representing the 17th District. His first four years were representing the 19th District, but redistricting changed some boundaries and the district numbers. Ohio lost the 19th district that year, I believe. Thanks, --Daysleeper47 19:35, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
- You are absolutely right, thanks for catching that. -- stubblyhead | T/c
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[edit] Image:Todd Hiett.jpg
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