User:Striver/Yes, i said "fuck you"...
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....and it looks like it's going to haunt me for the rest of my life, so i better creat a "article" about it. I mean, you got expect it to be included in my biography, if anybody would bother to write it...
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[edit] Background
[edit] The event
Me and User:Zora have a long history, User:Zereshk is invloved, and also several other Shi'a editors. All Shi'a editor dislike her more or less.
There is a long history between me, Zereshk, other Shi'a editors and Zora [1].
See what she wrote about Me and Zereshk:
Zora:
- "It feels to me like a grotesque waste of time and energy to negotiate with the mentally deficient and psychologically impaired." [2]
Here is the part that i said the infamous "fuck you":
Zora:
- The consensus of everyone but the Shi'a editors is that this article is an embarrassment to Wikipedia (and to the Shi'a) and that it should be merged, and any salvageable bits salvaged
Anonymous editor (a admin):
- Don't say that. I don't think the article is an embarrassment at all and saying so could hurt many editor's feelings.
Me: :
- Fuck you you fucking Shi'a hatign bigot. I dont care. Ban me. I Ban myself.
Anonymous editor (a admin):
- Striver you really shouldn't leave over something like this.
After this, i left Wikiepdia, but other users, uncluding a Sunni adming urged me to not leave due to what i perceived as "enough" [3].
[edit] Events leading to that
Shortly before that post, i had posted this. Again, i was very unhappy when i wrote that, i hade worked long houres on the representation of the Shi'a viewpoint, Zora removed it, i was reaching a compromise with a third editor, when Zora barged in and told both of us that we where unaccaptably wrong and that the Shia view point is non-sense, unecyplopetic and should be happy to get a link, readers should go to Shi'a sites to read Shi'a views.
Of course, that in it self is no excuse to curse people and quite wikipedia, but i feel that during the whole year, i was reaching compromises with other Sunni editors, when Zora just barged in and told me i had no case and should basicly sit and, as i felt it, stfu. I mean, try reading the entire talk page of Muawiyah I, the page i first said "Fuck you". There i gave five (5!) references to what the meaning of "muawiyah" was, but she just ignored my and a catholics view, backed by five (5!) references, and decided to suport the view of a anon editor! That made me furious, specialy since she knows absolutly nothing about the subject. After long talks of persuasion she acknoledge that she was wrong in vauleing the anons view higher. That is the exception, the rule is that she keeps to the anon view, and some times not even having a anon to support her view, desptie how much sources contradict her.
Try this for example: i get extremly angry and yell at her, and this is how a admin responds to my outbreak:
- If he wasn't right I'd have to admonish him for yelling, as he put it so inelegantly, cite your sources please zora. Then we can debate who's sources are more accurate instead of what is true or not true.
-Kode 18:54, 8 February 2006 (UTC) [4]
[edit] People urging me to come back
Zora acknowledges that she "drove me off", but still belives i have "issues" [5]. She acctualy does take a small part of the blame for the "incident", although she does not "like me" in general [6].
Here she "feels for me" and says i migh have a Asperger's syndrome [7]. I dont know if that is better or worse than being told "fuck you"....
As you see, both me and Zora have been at eachothers necks, she hase called me for mentally defincient, i once got so fedd upp with her that i cursed her, deleted my talk and user page and left Weikipedia. Sure, it wasnt civil to curse her, just as it wasnt civil of her to call me and Zereshk for menataly deficient, and the saying that i have asperrandom cyndrom.... But neither of us went to any admin and demanded the other to be blocked.
As i said, i left, untill the Admin Anomymos user asked me to return, as well as this guy gave a award and urged me to come back [8], [9], [10], [11].
Thing is, i was so uppset that i even left my "admin" post in the Islam forum and anounced that i was leaving my "Disccusion Boss" post at the Sh'a Islam forum at www.Lunarstorm.se, swedens bigges comunity site.
After i came back, This happened.
Here is what Zora said:
- I'm the editor Striver was cussing out and I've continually butted head with him over his edits to Islam-related articles. That said, I think Mongo was unfair to Striver in imposing the ban. Striver hadn't broken the 3RR rule yet and there is no explicit rule against creating a flood of articles supporting one's position -- though I wish there were. Mongo should have recused himself, as he seems to have been protecting HIS edits against Striver's conspiracy theories. [12]
[edit] Use after the event
Even this page in it self has ben referenced to and i have been politly asked to removed it, the requester alledging this being a attack page [13]. I respectlufuly decline, arguing this being a defence page, created by the necesity of giving a coherent and complete respons to this issue, namely what i perceive as being the repetitive reference to a single event in the past that was not reported to any admin by those involved, but is after the even used by people not involved in the event in order to commit character assassinaton on me.
[edit] List
Heck, why not, lets see how long people will rehash this issue to further smear campaigns and character assassinations. I have yet not seen one single of people of those that where acctualy invovlved in the event refer to the event in any aim to discedit me, only to identify themselves as someone part of that event.
- Jersey Devil:
- MONGO, 04:26, 15 March 2006 [16]
Something intresting i found is this, and i could see no efforts from Jersey Devil side to contact a admin in that event. However, Jersey Devil bevlives it is relevant to his case that i said "fuck you, ill ban my self" to Zora.
