Talk:Strepsirrhini

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[edit] Modern perspective

This article needs to be rewritten, IMHO, with Strepsirhini as the primary topic and prosimian a minor subtopic, and then renamed. - UtherSRG 05:19, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Scratch that. I think we should have two articles. Since my comment above has received no feedback, I'm going to ask on ToL for how best to do the split. - UtherSRG 15:13, 27 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I'm wondering if prosimian should be moved to strepsirrhini, then both of them editted into correct form, or just edit them both for the split. It would be nice to keep the edit history on both, but that's not possible. (We should have a "split" page routine similar to "move" page.) - UtherSRG 15:45, 27 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Clarify?

Coming here from Peer Review, as a stranger to the subject. This sentence was unclear to me: "However, the Aye-aye is considered an outgroup in this clade and is given its own infraorder (Chiromyiformes), although alternatively it is seen as a sister to all of the other strepsirrhines." Could it be made clearer -- is there a dispute about the Aye-aye's placement, and if so, is one view more dominant, or is the debate ongoing? — Catherine\^talk 03:17, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Yes, some scientists consider it the outgroup - least related group - of the Lemuriformes, but still closer related than the Loriformes. Others consider it the outgroup of all the rest of the strepsirrhine infraorders (but still closer related than the Tarsiers and the rest of the haplorrhines). Neither is more dominant, and Groves in the upcoming Mammal Species of the World (2005) says of the Aye-aye:

Retained as an infraorder (i.e. of equal status to Lemuriformes and Loriformes) by Groves (1989:65, 74-78; 2001c), because it does not certainly form a clade with other Malagasy [Lemuriformes] taxa.

So even the experts don't know yet what to do and there's not clear majority opinion. The uncertainty is again shown in the later section, Strepsirrhini#Classification and evolution. I'll attempt to craft better language to show the uncertainty. - UtherSRG 12:35, Jun 23, 2005 (UTC)

Ok, I've rewritten and rearranged some of the text to clarify the uncertainty of the Aye-aye's placement. Better? - UtherSRG July 1, 2005 16:18 (UTC)

Yes, much clearer now. Thank you! — Catherine\^talk 22:20, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Aye-aye and lemur articles say aye-ayes are lemurs

The aye-aye article currently opens by saying "The Aye-aye (Daubentonia madagascariensis) is a lemur native to Madagascar..." and the lemur article contains the line "lemurs like the noturnal aye-aye are..." From this article, the primate article, and the discussion here, it seems that the situation is rather more complex. Hopefully someone knowledgable will make appropriate corrections. -81.79.241.179 22:43, 26 March 2007 (UTC)