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    [edit] DC vs. Street Fighter

    I keep hearing that there is a DC vs. Street Fighter in the works. So I put it up here and the site where I got it from but somebody took it down and I'd like to know why. Dark Rain

    • 1. because it's a rumor, 2. snk-capcom is hardly a reliable source. JuJube 01:19, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
    • Now I wouldn't say that that site is "hardly" reliable. They could be telling the truth about something.
      • Snk-capcom is well known for being otaku-friendly and pulling "info" out their proverbial whatsits. If I hear something about in Shoryuken, then maybe I'll look into it. JuJube 05:26, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

    [edit] Character Page names

    I have just gone through a process of removing character's full names from the article titles (see Talk:E. Honda). Please do not move the articles back as this is the correct method, I will get around to doing the same for other character pages from other games (Soul Edge, Samurai Shodown etc) later on. There was no need for extra information in the page titles, as the full names are not the most common names. Mr.bonus 14:05, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

    The full names are not common enough to warrant them to be on the article's title, and even if they were, they're nowhere near as common as the name the characters always go by. How many times have you read Sakura Kasugano in a Capcom game as opposed to just Sakura? Unless you are a hardcore fan of the series you won't even know the character's last names (and even then, simply being a hardcore fan isn't enough, as you have to delve into outside sources to even find these names - just try and find one instance in a Capcom game where Rolento or Sakura’s last names are revealed. People were trying to include extra biograhical information in the article title. Why not have the page titled "Sakura (16 year old girl)"? The pages must be named after the names the characters most often go by in the games. Ken for example, has been officially named Kan Masters 1 time (US translated Alpha 3 introduction story), he has been named just Ken every single time he has appeared (player select, story text, name at top of screen, endings, everywhere - the character is called Ken). Plus the pages will never match if you have half having the only just canon last names visible and pages with just the first names. Mr.bonus 23:36, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
    I made a Mediaton Cabal case for this. We should not have move wars over this issue. Danny Lilithborne 23:44, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
    I have always been frustrated by the page names as well. When the characters are listed on the games or in the instruction booklets they are always just the first names. Ryu, Ken, E.Honda, Cammy - never full names. So why should the articles be titled after a less common name. I have always been a SF fan and even I have never even heard of most of the surnames until I saw them on here, and if I wanted to find them out, I wouldn't expect to read the page title, but the article itself. Lughguy 15:17, 23 December 2006 (UTC)


    I have mixed feelings about this one. On one hand, there are characters whose full names are well-known enough that using them as the main name shouldn't be much of a problem and are in fact preferable over simply having "Character's Name (Title)", like Ken Masters. Then there are character with obscure full names who are only mentioned once in the series and never again. Unless you had that Street Fighter Zero 2 Secret File pamphlet distributed in Japan, there's no way of knowing that Rolento F. Schugerg is the character's full name. Even at that, his backstory in that pamphlet was later contradicted in several ways in the actual games and his full name was never mentioned again. Cammy White only used her full name during the Street Fighter II series (in Alpha, she had no surname) and Yun and Yan's full name are only inferred through the games (but never actually stated). Jonny2x4 16:22, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
    Yes, some names are pretty common, but not as common as the name they always go by. Plus, I don't see a problem having it as Ken (Street Fighter), he is known as Ken from Street Fighter. Ken Masters is still a less used name than Ken off of Street Fighter (plus Masters was only invented after a lawsuit with Barbie). And why not have them all match? As you said, Rolento F. Schugerg and Cammy White are too uncommon to name the pages after, so just have them all as the most common names and don't get into whose full names are common enough to name the pages after them. Mr.bonus 16:51, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
    I had originally chimed in with my two cents on the matter (arguing the use of full names over single names) but shortly after noticed the mediation link which revealed that the matter had been settled (or was on the verge of reaching a settlement). So my response comes belated, and hence I deleted it. Sorry for the mix up. Fuad Ramses 01:49, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

    [edit] Images in article

    I am going to change the images on this page when I get around to it. When snapshots are taken of certain Capcom games, they are letterboxed for some reason, and stretching them in Photoshop blurs the image. I will correct the images to the correct 4:3 ratio and still keep the sharpness and also take better screenshots that represent the games better (rather than 2 images of Ken stood there doing nothing). Mr.bonus 14:37, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

    [edit] First Game

    Shouldn't there be some more mention about the first game, hiow it worked, which characters that could be played etc., I think it, for historical reasons, deserves its own article. --—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.226.122.159 (talk • contribs).

    Looks like someone created it for you under Street Fighter (video game). Also, please sign your talk (even if you're not logged in) with ~~~~, it'll datestamp your message. -Locke Cole 19:46, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

    [edit] Street Fighter 4!?

    it has been comfiremed that there will be Street Fighter 4, rumours flying everywher, people can't wait

    any one did any article on it?

    >x<ino 23:06, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

    [edit] Where to place an action figure section?

    There have beens everal action figures based on the Street Fighter series, like the recent SOTA Street Fighter line-up. Where to include this? In a new section or add it to "Adaptations for other media". Thanks for the "talk". ShotokanTuning 10:13, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

    [edit] Original Street Fighter character victory statements.

    In Street Fighter 1, the winning & losing screen for Ryu was the same statement spoken & written on the screen, with winning being "What strength!! but don't forget there are many guys like you all over the world." and losing being "You've got a lot to learn before you beat me, try again kiddo!"

    However, before the screen after the fight, the characters would proclaim victory with audio each in a unique way, just like in the victory screen of the later Street Fighter games. Here is what I could make out myself;

    Ryu; "All Right!"
    Joe; "Whose your daddy?"
    Mike; "I'm the champion!"
    Retsu; "Go to heaven."
    Geki; "(laughter)"
    Birdie; "Another win!"
    Eagle; "And that's that, (laughter)"
    Lee; "???"
    Gen; "You are weak, go(?)"
    Adon; "You are no match for me."
    Sagat; "(laughter)"

    I'm fairly confident about all of them except for the two fighters from China. Alternately, there is some audio for certain moves, like Sagats fireball, which in SFII was "Tiger!" though in SFI almost sounds like "Fire!", with the early audio voice emulation it is difficult to tell, as all of Ryu's moves are different (in English) as in "Fireball" instead of "Hadouken" in SFII, and "Hurricane Kick" etc.

    This should maybe be incorporated into the article somehow, or in the individual characters articles, once we can be certain of what the two characters from China say. Moved to Street Fighter (video game) 67.5.194.246 03:56, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

    Is it major info that couldn't be found by going to a FAQ or something? I mean, do you go to an encyclopedia looking up minor quotes from characters in a minor video game? --Golbez 04:27, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
    It's my belief that a wiki encyclopedia should serve as a perfected FAQ (not a walkthrough however). 67.5.212.255 01:44, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
    It's possible to place the info at Street Fighter (video game) when complete and verified, or place at the unique characters individually. Another way could be placing a link at Street Fighter (video game) to a FAQ containing such info, if available.ShotokanTuning 09:24, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
    There are no FAQs containing such information, though I was unaware of a separate article for the original SF, I'll add my above to the discussion entry there. 67.5.212.255 01:44, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

    [edit] udon comics

    i am not sure but i think it is no more called Street Fighter 2 >x<ino 11:05, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

    It's called "Street Fighter II", http://www.capcomcomics.com/StreetFighter/issues.html. ShotokanTuning 00:30, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

    Does it even come out anymore?


    apparently!

    [edit] Street Fighter series page

    Shouldn't this be at Street Fighter series or Street Fighter (series), with Street Fighter being a disambiguation page for the films and so on? It's not a major problem, but it would be good to be consistent with Sonic the Hedgehog series, Metal Gear (series) and The Legend of Zelda series. --Nick R 14:19, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

    It's been done now. --Nick RTalk 04:38, 7 January 2006 (UTC)


    [edit] Division

    This page is getting large. Should it be separated into individual pages? 222.2.137.193 09:28, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

    [edit] Only one picture?

    In the entire article? Looks kinda weird. Anyone willing to go through with screenshots of non-emulatable games? Lockeownzj00 21:49, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

    [edit] Name & Picture

    The title of Street Fighter II is "The World Warrior" (8 character one, first 6 button game) ; also I'm adding a screenshot I just took under my emu. --Nerval 17:27, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

    [edit] Series Synopsis

    This is the current layout:

    1 Series synopsis
    1.1 Street Fighter (1987)
    1.2 Street Fighter II : The World Warrior (1991)
    1.3 Street Fighter II': Champion Edition (1992)
    1.3.1 First home conversions
    1.4 Street Fighter II' Turbo: Hyper Fighting (1992)
    1.5 Super Street Fighter II: The New Challengers (1993)
    1.5.1 Beating the bootleggers
    1.6 Super Street Fighter II Turbo (1994)
    1.7 Street Fighter Alpha/Zero (1995)
    1.8 Street Fighter Alpha 2 (1996)
    1.9 Street Fighter III - The New Generation (1997)
    1.10 Street Fighter III: 2nd Impact - Giant Attack (1998)
    1.11 Street Fighter Alpha 3 (1998)
    1.11.1 Street Fighter Alpha 3 for Portables
    1.12 Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike - Fight For the Future (1999)
    1.13 Street Fighter EX series

    I'd say this is more structured (date can't be used, see SFA 3 for Portables and such):

    1 Series synopsis
    1.1 Street Fighter (1987)
    1.2 Street Fighter II
    1.2.1 Street Fighter II : The World Warrior (1991)
    1.2.2 Street Fighter II': Champion Edition (1992)
    1.2.2.1 First home conversions
    1.2.3 Street Fighter II' Turbo: Hyper Fighting (1992)
    1.2.4 Super Street Fighter II: The New Challengers (1993)
    1.2.4.1 Beating the bootleggers
    1.2.5 Super Street Fighter II Turbo (1994)
    1.3 Street Fighter Alpha
    1.3.1 Street Fighter Alpha/Zero (1995)
    1.3.2 Street Fighter Alpha 2 (1996)
    1.3.3 Street Fighter Alpha 3 (1998)
    1.3.3.1 Street Fighter Alpha 3 for Portables
    1.4 Street Fighter III
    1.4.1 Street Fighter III - The New Generation (1997)
    1.4.2 Street Fighter III: 2nd Impact - Giant Attack (1998)
    1.4.3 Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike - Fight For the Future (1999)
    1.5 Street Fighter EX series

    Agree/disagree? I'm willing to change it.ShotokanTuning 09:15, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

    I changed it, disagree/agree? First discuss. ShotokanTuning 07:45, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

    Seems nicer to me. there is also Street Fighter : The Movie which was released in 1994 (which probably needs something to write about). --Nerval 22:28, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

    [edit] linux

    Are Linux screenshots necessary?

    No. Just looks like some cheap advertising to me. Even the word Linux has been highlighted in italics. Nerval, I don't mind the one screenshot but I don't approve of you pasting advertisements for your operating system everywhere. Besides, it's just an emu. At least remove the mention of 'linux' in every single caption. These are emulations of arcade games. Not linux. I don't want to offend you but your intention is obvious. --Mysterious Bob 16:02, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
    The screenshots are totally inappropriate, I agree - As for Street Fighter Alpha 3 for example, it's just wrong for a screenshot of a game in "384 x 224"-resolution to be 1280x1024, 728kb in size and to show more of the firefox browser than of the actual game.
    Took new ingame screenshots and replaced the old ones. Added two of the three linux-screenshots to the category "Orphaned unfree images" because they're no longer used. Going to remove them next week (tag them for speedy deletion). elias.hc 20:21, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

    Ahh... it's nice to see that the change has been made. Great screenshots. Thanks. I might add shots for the rest of the games tommorow including SF1. --Mysterious Bob 22:50, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

    Ouch I see this late :) I don't mind those screenshots being removed at all, I just took those screenshots under my computer and I'm not sure about copyright issues. I mean, I did use this operating system and that program to get that screenshot; would it be okay if I didn't mention it? If it is, then I should have presented only the picture. Now that there are in half pictures, it's okay though :) Cheers; --Nerval 07:51, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

    [edit] When to use Ansatsuken in Articles

    I posted in this article's talk page since it may impact several SF articles. Currently, the Ansatsuken page is set for a massive overhaul to meet with Wikipedia standards. One of the main complaints was that sources were necessary so that the information in the article could be verified. We're working on that. The other complaint, which elicited the delete notice in the first place was how the term "Ansatsuken" was used. The question will impact how other information within the "shotos" articles will be presented, especially those who linked and make references to that page. For those who are not aware of the issue, "Ansatsuken" is not the real name of the shotos' fighting style. Capcom of Japan has never given it a name. The term "Ansatsuken" refers to any hard style of martial art that focuses on killing an opponent. People in other articles use the word as gospel for the official name of the "shotos" style. So should we just do away with referring to "ansatsuken" in any of the other articles in preference for an equally generic English name, like "Goutetsu's Martial Art"? It would relieve the problem of properly reffering to the shotos' martial arts in articles without leading readers on into thinking this is the actual martial art's name, or going through the rigmarole of explaining "ansatsuken" to people unfamiliar with the term. Also, could other users reading this put their votes in about the article and whether it should be deleted or suggest some ways to improve it?--BB Mofo 17:04, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

    I think that it should be kept as Ansatsuken, only due to the fact that in faqs across the internet the style is reffered to as such, even w/o official statement from Capcom. That said, fans that know enough about the series at least know what someone is reffering to when they say "Ansatsuken". The main thing is there needs to be a clarification informing people that it's not the official name of the style, but rather what it means, and informing them that there was never an officially adopted name. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Firestorm117 (talk • contribs) 02:16, 21 January 2007 (UTC).

    [edit] Ancient one

    In super street figher tubo if you play throught the game as M.bison a narative starts about him ruling the world then bison himself seas that not even the ancient one dared to stop him. i was wondering who he was talking about i didnt find it in eny of the articals. I personaly thought it might be oro.

    • From Tiamat's Plot Guide:

      Bison refers to an ancient one who didn't dare to challenge him in his SF2 ending. But that was something darn Capcom of USA added in. At any rate, he no longer mentions this ancient one in his SF2 Revival ending.

      Hope that helps. Danny Lilithborne 23:05, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

    [edit] Needs a major cleanup!

    This article a major cleanup and a HUGE OVERHAUL! Not every single detail about every Street Fighter title needs to mentioned here. That's why each game has an individual article to begin with. Jonny2x4 05:17, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

    Went ahead and merge all the info of each game with their specific articles. Now we need to write brief overview of each series. Jonny2x4 22:51, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
    I was hoping this would happen. But I think that the "history of fighting games" belongs at Versus fighting game not here. A history of Street Fighter would be appropriate, however. Alpha Omicron 20:52, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

    Your merge was not very good; You basically removed everything in the article about the actual games. BlueLotas 21:34, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

    It's still a work-in-progress and I'm working on other stuff right now. I'm planning on writing a brief overview of each incarnation of the series Like I said, this is the series article and it's better to provide a brief overview of each game, instead of going too in-depth like the previous revision did.Jonny2x4 19:08, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

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    [edit] Merging character articles

    I don't know how many people actually visit this article, but does anyone care if I merge small character articles(like 35 or so) to the List of Street Fighter characters? A lot of these characters really have nothing that warrents an article. Nemu 12:52, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

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