Talk:Strawberry Shortcake
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[edit] Removal of Ginger Snaps Ethnicity
I have removed the following section of the article as it is poorly written and doesn't seem to have any basis apart from a rumour at an elementary school. and a local newspaper article.
Is Ginger Snap Bengali? Recently, a rumour spread in Lane Elementary School (located in Alexandria, Virginia) that Ginger Snap was a Bengali or Indian girl. Also, the claim may be false since a ginger snap is originally a European cookie.
An article written in the Alexandria Herald (a new little-known newspaper in Alexandria) stated that Ginger Snap is, in fact, from some Islamic country. But the claim could be true: even though she doesn't wear traditional Bengali clothes, she could qualify. But she's definitely not Hispanic or Caucasian. Recently an unknown Wikipedia user posted that Ginger Snap was "hispanic" [sic], but it's not valid, probably.
Even if Ginger Snap is Islamic, there's no guarantee.
- If you want my two cents on this topic, I consider Ginger Snap Italian. In the new TV show her catch-phrase is "Oh, Macaroonio", which to me, sounds rather Italian.RAM 02:20, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
Feel free to re-write the section in encyclopediaec terms if/when you have found more basis for this section, but overall it doesn't seem necessary. --Rachel Cakes 04:50, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Watch out for corporate plant!
Watch out! There's someone constantly trying to remove information from this article. I suspect it's a "plant" from American Greetings, trying to cover up their mess-up with Penny Arcade. - Stormwatch 14:16, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] NPOV
There is no “plant”. There is only people trying to keep your type of amusement away from children. It would seem to me that you can make your own page on this site to give your opinion about what you think is right and wrong. Adults have possibly sat down with their daughter, niece, or granddaughter to show them some of the cartoons they watched as a child. What would you like them to find.—This unsigned comment was added by 70.37.128.30 (talk • contribs) 2006 March 20 11:30 UTC.
- It's quite clear that you are a corporate plant. What else am I to take from the fact that you edited the discussion section to remove the signature that was added to your comment by a moderator?! And what about the fact that almost all of your countributions to Wikipedia were the removal of this specific piece of information from this specific article? Of course, you could also be just an annoying prudish troll... - Stormwatch 02:32, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
- All right, what do you think about it now? - Stormwatch 20:45, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Mixing fact and fiction
This excerpt is a bad sign:
- She was first released in 1980, then relaunched in 1991 and 2002. In Strawberryland, nobody EVER dies or even gets sick. Locks are illegal, there are no thieves, everything is free, and you get Christmas presents whether you're naughty or nice. Also, it's illegal to punish.
It mixes the actual history of the toy and facts about its fictional world. They should be separated sections. - Stormwatch 20:49, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
It sounds like somebody just made it up. KinseyLOL 20:22, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
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- It's ridiculous. A character on this series can get sick --- prime example --- Honey Pie Pony --- "Get Well Adventure." Of course nobody is going to be shown dying on the show --- it's a children's-targeted television series, only rarely do characters on such shows die. "It's illegal to punish" --- patent nonsense. Obviously, a system of laws has never been explored on the show. Agent0042 04:40, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Aging Character
It should also be noted that Strawberry Shortcake and her friends do age. Which is rare of animated characters. With each reintroduction she appears a little bit older. The original series depicted Strawberry and her friends about between 6 and 7 years old. As the series was relaunched she was always seemed older and taller. At the end of the original series Strawberry and company is observed having a mystical growth spur and her hair growing longer while dancing. This was never explain and was shown at the very end of an episode. She gave up the cute 1800s style dress for more modern style she now wears and appears to be about 9 or 10 in age. Pixarian
- I think the observation backfired: I noticed Baby Strawberry Shortcake books at a bookstore the other day.RAM 15:40, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
Hello! Do Some Research! That "mystical growth spurt" that was "never explained" came courtesy The Berry Princess. Earlier in the 1985 special "Strawberry Shortcake Meets The Berrykins", Miss Shortcake had lamented (via a catchy musical number!) that her hair wasn't long enough to wear different "proper" or "wild" hairstyles. The Berry Princess knew of this (somehow?), and as a Thank You for the kids' help with The Berrykin kidnapping, granted Strawberry's secret wish. This tied in perfectly to the 1985 line of Kenner's Strawberry Shortcake "Berrykin" Dolls, all of whom had beautiful long, lustrous hair. What may seem in retrospect (and out of context) to be a strange, unexplained phenomena, was in reality a brilliant marketing gimmick! Those yearly specials in the '80s were nothing but glorified commercials anyway. Not that there's anything wrong with that! :^)
I do, however, agree with Pixarian's general observation, that Strawberry Shortcake HAS matured over the course of Her variegated history. When the THQ toys debuted in the late '80s, there was a vague sense of nostalgia connected with the Dolls wearing "modern" clothing, but also coming with a replica of their old-fashioned "Kenner-style" outfits, with the pantaloons and such. BanDai's new millennium version of Strawberry and her crowd seemed more or less the same, age-wise, as the classic representation, but then, take a look at the new PlayMates Dolls! They are represented as much taller, probably closer to pre-teen-aged girls! I guess that Strawberry Shortcake just wants to look like who she wants to be, when She grows up! (*Groan!*) User: Berry Prince
- Alright. 219.93.44.71 10:14, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
I personally think their ages remain the same, but the difference on clothing and drawing style gives a bit of an illusion of age. Just my 2 cents.
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- The human characters are mini-adults --- they run their own affairs with no parents, and sustain themselves. The only exception is Apple Dumplin', who even in the very first episode of the series is stated to be one year old, but is able to walk and talk, and later in the series is seen forming complex opinions on matters that should not be comprehensible to the brain of a one-year-old. Agent0042 04:40, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Chart
I have recently added a friend chart to clean up a few sections. Note that this is made up of only the original characters. If a seperate chart would like to be added of the relaunched characters, feel free to do so. User:blankname1993 8:53, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Great Job
This article is really coming along nicely. Thank you everyone who is contributing. Also, perhaps making expansion articles on the main characters would be a good idea
[edit] People keep chopping off the best parts
This edit [1] by user Kyereh Mireku [2] removed the "History" section -- which happens to be the single most informative and relevant part of the article! - Stormwatch 23:39, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Reaction to the Penny Arcade parody
It did cause a certain online ruckus at the time... check here [3], here [4], here [5], here [6], or just google around. - Stormwatch 00:27, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
- In that case, you should present those links as references to the claim. Remove the neutrality disputed tag, and then reference them using the ref tag. RAM 02:21, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
- Btw, I just thought of something. I was messing around youtube when I found out about a show called "Robot Chicken" the other day (no, it is not airing here), and apparently they did a Strawberry Shortcake parody as well in which Strawberry Shortcake and Blueberry Muffin were cussing about the car radio (Both characters were using pretty strong words like Bitch). Was there any lawsuit from AG to the creators of the show? I didn't hear anything about it, although I didn't google it either. RAM 02:31, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Baby Needs-A-Name-- Or DOES She?
I've noticed that someone has re-inserted the name "Lullaberry Pie" into the "Friends" list, alongside the title "Baby Needs-A-Name". Can someone provide a factual basis for this name?
I recall that the "Blow-Kiss" Baby Needs-A-Name Doll produced by Kenner in 1984 came with Paper ID Bracelets, from which the Doll's owner could choose a proper name for the Doll. I further recall that "Lullaberry" (but NOT "Pie") was one of those possible names (I believe "Candy Kiss" was another).
Can someone cite a Book or Story that established an actual link of this name to the character? If so, I'll shut up, but 'til then, I think that "Baby Needs-A-Name" is all the "name" this character "needs" by way of reference. Thanks! User: Berry Prince206.58.228.174 09:24, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
