Talk:Stoner film

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[edit] Films to consider

[edit] Half-Baked

I've always considered HALF BAKED to be a bit of a wolf in sheep's clothing as far as being a stoner film goes. It's heavy on negative stereotype and Chapelle chooses an uptight judgemental chick who makes him quit smoking just for the sake of doing it. It's a bait and switch. 24.33.28.52 10:20, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Removed stuff from the list

[edit] Hostel

Removed. Main focus is on human hunting and not weed.--sin-man 13:12, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Blow

I removed Blow from the list. Although there is plenty of cannabis usage in the first third or so of the movie, it's portrayal of the drug is much more realistic and lacks the over-the-topness that is essential to stoner movies. Serotrance 21:58, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Others

The Wall is quite dark and cynical and doesn't have the light-hearted, altruistic, comedic elements described in the article. Yeah, stoners like to watch it, but they like Teletubbies, too.

Over the Edge is no more stoner film than Better Luck Tomorrow was. It takes an arguably dim view of drug use as something kids do as a last resort to escape a boring life.

View Askewniverse films have stoner characters, Jay and Silent Bob, but they were only central to the story in Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back. That one might count, Clerks, Dogma, Chasing Amy, etc. definitely don't, though.

The Big Lebowski is the closest, but it's more of a classic hardboiled caper film that has a stoner as the central character. — AKADriver ☎ 17:28, 18 May 2006 (UTC)


Are hardboiled capers and stoner films mutually exclusive? 24.33.28.52 04:21, 19 May 2006 (UTC)


I removed Pink Floyd's The Wall from the list, as someone mentioned it is a very dark film dealing with the character creating a wall between himself and society, and is not a lighthearted stonner film. I do not know how it got back on the list (68.45.76.174 16:07, 27 May 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Others

Removed The Breakfast Club, Dazed and Confused and The Big Lebowski from the list. Though they all feature marijuana smoking, it's not the central theme of the films.

  • I'll agree with the first and third, but Dazed and Confused features marijuana heavilly enough to definitely count as a stoner film. I'm adding it back. -Josh, September 30, 2005, 4:54 AM EST


The word "Blow" has been before "See also: List of Teenage Stoner Films" dating back Febuary 5. I just thought that I'd note that, even though it doesn't matter, because there have been a number or revisions in this span of time. 65.96.98.74 00:28, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] This whole page

seems like original research. It's actually the disputes on this discussion page that made me notice this... the whole "this or that is or isn't a stoner film." There's no codified definition for a stoner film. The article however makes it out like there is such a definition and thus we get this picking-and-choosing is-or-isn't effect, all based on the "rules" in the article. Plus, saying "this isn't a stoner film because it's _____ (science fiction, detective, etc.)" is nonsense anyway. It's like saying that a movie can't be a mystery if it's a western... the genres are not defined by the same terms.24.33.28.52 01:33, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 2001?

I don't remember 2001 "depicting the use of marijuana," as the article defines the term stoner film as requiring. Marijuana certainly wasn't "one of the main themes, [inspiring] most of the action" as the article also describes the term. I don't see an explanation for this on the talk page, but am hesitant to remove it in case someone who knows more about the topic than I do has kept it here for a reason. I certainly think that any explanation ought to be kept here so that others with the same query I have can read it before they delete the reference. What is the explanation? Ari 22:27, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

The problem is that so far the editors of this page have been guiding the page towards only including movies that depict cannabis use. The reality is that when the term "stoner film" is used, it just as often refers to movies that feature absolutely no cannabis use but are fetishized by the cannabis-using community as being favorite films. In particular, films that feature heavy use of atmospherics, have a heavy emphasis on visuals, or feature very cerebral metaphysical themes are often considered "stoner films" i.e. 2001: A Space Odyssey, Waking Life, etc. Thats the same reason [[The Wall] by Pink Floyd has been edited in so many times. In many ways it is one of the quintessential "stoner films" yet does not depict cannabis use at all. -HistoryNature 21:53, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

There is no point in lawyering a list based upon the definition in the article. the "explanation" demanded is that this is a nebulous term with no formal defintion to be lawyered. Encyclopedia are descriptive, not prescriptive, in their definitions.24.165.210.213 07:31, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

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