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HELP!

I keep adding Wikipedia:articles for deletion/List of Baby Blues books to the afd list, but every time it never shows up on the actual page. Can you please try to add it to the October 11, 2006 log?--B&W Anime Fan 12:58, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Wikitrivia

I have begun to put together a proposal for Wikitrivia, and I would appreciate any input you can give me. --Chris Griswold (☎☓) 14:34, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

  • If it's going to be for stuff we transwiki across from Wikipedia, it has to be GFDL compliant, which means we can't sell the content. Oh, just found WikiTrivia. Hmm. I've found m:WikiTrivia, but I'm not sure that's related. I think the best place to discuss this might be on the Foundation-L mailing list, the proposals system looks like it has ground to a halt. Probably best to revive the old proposal, and find out who owns that website and what is going on with it. The expiration looks like it is on 25th May next year, [1]. I don't know if it can be grabbed, I'm not up on how you get a domain name someone else has. Maybe a domain name sitter type person? Steve block Talk 13:49, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
Doesn't Wikipedia sell content to sites like answers.com? --Chris Griswold (☎☓) 15:07, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
Um, quick answer, no. We have an arrangement, I think, but I see where you are going. Um, I'm one of those people who ignores the answers tie up, so I'm not sure what it is. I think they re-use our content per the GFDL, but there's a donation which comes the other way in exchange. There's politics involved, to avoid advertising which many people feel Wikipedia shouldn't do. I never made my mind up on that, to be honest. Steve block Talk 15:18, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
OK, that's all I was basing that section on. --Chris Griswold (☎☓) 15:36, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Wally West

"I just realized that I added to the confusion by moving Wally West (Flash) (one of NetK's moves) to Flash (Wally West) when it should have been moved back to Wally West, since he's had more than one code name. Can an admin take care of this? Thanks! CovenantD 00:31, 12 October 2006 (UTC)"

Would you fix, it, Steve? —Lesfer (t/c/@) 21:20, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, man :) —Lesfer (t/c/@) 18:47, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Tintin stuff

User:Steve block/X1. Oh, wow! Love it. I have a Tintin/Herge biography book squirelled away somewhere. I guess you might have it as well, but if not, could I be of help? I've nosed around the Tintin pages, and was stunned to find Tintin_in_Thailand and the other parodies, as well as the description of the anarchist book where 'Tintin' and 'Haddock' work to topple the British government. I've read all the books, and the Jo, Zette and Jocko books, been to the Tintin museum in Brussels (well, technically the The Belgian Center For Comic Strips), and got the T-shirts (lots of them)! :-) Carcharoth 23:05, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

  • Knock yourself out. At the minute I've just merged all the stub character articles together. I have made a start on Captain Haddock, I was going to put Tintin in the main article and have the rest described in the supporting article, which is what this will become. Whether I ever get further than tinkewring, I don't know. But feel free to play. Steve block Talk 23:15, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Your note

Steve, I'm going to answer on the ATT talk page just so that everything is together. SlimVirgin (talk) 10:28, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

My RfA

Announcement: It's an administrator!

Steve block, thanks for your support on my request for adminship.

The final outcome was a robust 62/1/1, so I am now an administrator. If you ever have any questions about my actions, please do not hesitate to contact me.

Thanks again, Chris Griswold


Minor Edits

What counts as a minor edit? 'Cause I clicked on it to make sure those were mine. Brian Boru is awesome 14:16, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

  • What do you mean, you clicked on it to make sure those are yours? For what counts as a minor edit see Help:Minor edit. Basically you should only click the box if the edit you are performing is a simple tipo or grammar error. Hope that helps. Steve block Talk 14:30, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Dochterbedrijf

Yes, it literally means "daughter corporation", hence subsidiary. Yours, >Radiant< 14:47, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Put comments warning people on their talk pages.

Hi, just a note to remind you that it's expected to put a comment warning people off from bad behaviour on their talk pages, not just on an article talk page. (Some of the later steps off remidies require this to have happened.) --Barberio 13:19, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

*sigh*. 2005 just deleted my request for him to remain civil from his talk page[2], and shows little sign of reducing the hostility. I also worry that it looks like he's taken ownership of Wikipedia:External Links. Can you try discussing this with him to try and calm him down? --Barberio 22:12, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
  • I don't tend to issue warnings to user talk pages anymore, I find they are removed and only serve to inflame the situation. I'm not sure how it will be taken if I have a word with 2005, but I'll have a go. Steve block Talk 14:03, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Editor review.

Hi Steve. Being that you were one of the first people that I encountered on Wikipedia (and the first I had an editing dispute with) I was wondering if you'd be willing to take the time to leave me feedback (good or bad) on my editor review. I recently had a failed RfA (mostly on experience concerns) and another admin has offered to nominate me the next time I want to give it a try. I would be very grateful for your opinions on how I have improved my editing and what I still need to improve on to be able to make it through an RfA successfully. Thanks. - Mike | Talk 22:46, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for a lot for your comments, Steve :-). Even if you didn't feel you had much to say, I thought it would be ineresting to find out anyway. I'll let you know the next time I put an RfA up. Cheers, - Mike | Talk 19:25, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
No problems. I'm glad my limited comments were of use. :) Steve block Talk 22:24, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Check this out

Thought you'd find this amusing. - Mike | Trick or Treat 03:13, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

  • Yeah, I've known about him a while. There was a point I had the top google hits on Steve Block, but I figure that position is best held by someone who actually matters. It's nice to have a famous name without having to have put any of the leg work in, I suppose. :) It also might obscure me a little if any crank ever decides to look me up. We spell our full names differently, not that that matters. My only regret is not getting the steveblock.com domain when I was first online, way back when... but then again, it ain't that important. Steve block Talk 17:18, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Tintin

Haha, Ok I'll leave it up there. You got there first, anyhow :-). Just felt the need to add Calvin there as IMO it's the best comics article I've seen. - Mike | Trick or Treat 00:21, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

  • No problemmo. Although I think the Tintin one is pretty damn good. I sweat blood on that. :) Steve block Talk 00:23, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
I guess we all are most attached to the ones we spent the most time on. Calvin and Hobbes was already an FA when I came to Wikipedia, but I've spent lots of time improving it as well. If you look at my editcount, you'll see that I've made nearly 200 edits to that article and 150 to the talk page. - Mike | Trick or Treat 00:26, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
I remember, I think that's when we first crossed swords. Once I worked out you were on the level, I pretty much left you to it at Calvin and Hobbes. But you certainly did good work there.  :) Steve block Talk 00:31, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Indeed. Article has changed a lot since then. Possibly can use a bit of farming out into sub-articles as the page size is 74k last I checked. I'm not really sure how to go about that though. - Mike | Trick or Treat 00:51, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Summary style might help you a bit. I'm off to bed in a couple of minutes so I can't be any more help than that. Sorry. I'm trying to do something similar to Tintin at the moment. Steve block Talk 00:52, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Template:Comicsproj

Any reason this is protected? I need to make some edits to it -- namely, linking to our specific assesment scale and adding the importance scale in. - Mike | Trick or Treat 19:38, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

  • I'm actually working it all up at the minute. It's protected because it transcludes really heavily across Wikipedia. I should be ready to go live in about half an hour. Steve block Talk 19:40, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Thanks, I'll go ahead and rate those articles that I've assesed then. - Mike | Trick or Treat 20:03, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Are you planning on making it smaller, because right now it is huge. Some ideas for this can be found at {{ME-project}} ("hidden" bar) or {{Film}} (just smaller). It is also miss-aligned, I don't know how to fix that. Cbrown1023 02:20, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

  • It shuldn't really be that huge, I can't see that many articles where all fields would be used but I'll have a look at the hiding it trick. I can't fix the misalignment either, that's beyond me, I can't see it my end, running Firefox. I know IE is buggy with some css stuf but I'm not that clued up to be able to fix it. All I did was pinch the code from the Firefly template. Steve block Talk 11:45, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Roly Poly

I saw you protected Roly Poly today. I was thinking of writing up a article on the Roly Poly Sandwich Shop's. And I was wondering if I should write a stub in my user space then ask you to unprotect the page or can any admin do that? Whispering 18:46, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

  • Yeah, get it written up in your user space, and give me a shout when you are ready to move it across and I'll unprotect it, and you can just cut and paste it over. Seems the best way. The page apparently seems targeted by vandals. If you can't get hold of me get another admin to do it, and point them to this discussion. Steve block Talk 19:07, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
Well I have a stub in my sandbox is it long enough to last or should I work on it a bit more? Whispering 19:58, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar!

The Barnstar of Diligence
For attempting to help resolve a lengthy and often confusing communication breakdown, and as a nudge, in the hope that you might continue to help in other such instances on Wikipedia : ) - jc37 19:49, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

{{speechless}} Steve block Talk 20:02, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Just wondering

How can I edit your "Comics by region" template?? I want to add one country in there.--Check two you 26 October 2006

  • Just work out where it would go in the template and then paste <tr><td style="text-align:center; font-size:90%;">[[INSERT COUNTRY HERE]]</td></tr> in that place, for example if it goes above Mexico, place the cursor at the start of the Mexico line, press return and paste the line above in and edit the country to get the right name. That should do it. Steve block Talk 22:12, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
  • I see but can you give me the link to edit the template?? Thanks.--Check two you 28 October 2006

Naming conventions (comics)

I see you dropped the idea for using publication as a phrase. Are we still using comics in the first instance then? To be honest I quite liked using publication. Steve block Talk 20:18, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

It's interesting that you mention that. First, my comments about it are here. However, I literally was thinking the last couple days that perhaps I should put "publication" back in. It's now done, please check it out. I also (hopefully) clarified a few things about usage. - jc37 01:00, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, I like it how it is now. Hopefully I can finish up my Tintin stuff this week and then crack on with maintaining comics articles from then on. If I don't get bogged down in admin stuff. I did look for your comments on the issue as I remembered you'd made them but I couldn't turn them up anywhere, obviously didn't look hard enough. :) Steve block Talk 08:39, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
I've been double checking for typos and "sense" and such. Going to give it one more "run-through" after posting this. - jc37 11:55, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
K, finished the run-through. Let me know if you spot any errors (glaring or otherwise). - jc37 12:23, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Lists

FYI: List of comics spin-offs. - jc37 23:05, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Danny Phantom

Here's a good test case for WP:NCC:

See the history of: Danny Phantom (character).

Since I am not an admin, and couldn't delete redirect pages, I chose to:

However, based on the various naming conventions under television and comics ("hero shows" apparently default to WP:NCC usage), what probably should have happened:

I don't think that there is enough in the Danny Phantom character article for the creation of a Danny Fenton character article at this time.

Your input is welcome. - jc37 01:00, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

  • Well, I agree with how you see it as above, so I'll have a look at the histories and see what needs deleting and moving and if there's any history needs merging and do it all. Steve block Talk 08:39, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Ok. Suggestion: Make sure you change the link in Template:DPNav, first after the move, it'll make fixing the redirects easier : ) - jc37 12:02, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Also, what's your opinion on an article name like: Samantha "Sam" Manson? - jc37 12:02, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

In the main I stand by the idea that redirects are free, and since Samantha Manson and Sam Manson both redirect to Samantha "Sam" Manson, I don't have an absolute opinion on the name either way. The common name convention would apply if there was a dispute, but I don't know enough about the character to know what the common name would be. There's nothing in the move logs, but looking at the page histories, it looks like Samantha Manson was the first page, and info there was merged to Danny Phantom in Dec 2004. An anon then started Sam Manson in 2005, and this too was instantaneously merged to Danny Phantom, although the merge guidance wasn't followed either time. Then Samantha "Sam" Manson was started in October 2005 and this time caught. The easiest thing might be to settle on one page name and when that's settled merge the histories into one. Steve block Talk 18:01, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
Wow. I was just asking about whether having a quoted nickname in an article title was a good idea. On the show, she's called Sam, by everyone except occaisionally her parents. Awesome page history research, though. I wonder if it's worth merging the page histories, or are they all pretty much the same (copy/paste)? - jc37 21:42, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
The GFDL requires the histories to be merged. Nicknames in quotation marks in an article name, I don't know, probably not the best idea, but it's not something I care about unless I have to. Based on what you are telling me, a move to Sam Morton should certainly be considered. Is it likely to be controversial? Steve block Talk 11:26, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
(Presuming you meant Sam Manson : )
And based on Wikipedia:Naming_conventions (people)#Nick names, pen names, stage names, cognomens, I presume that that would be correct.
As for controversial, I honestly don't know. I wouldn't "think" so, but then, I'm finding that any comics/animation move may be potentially controversial. (See: Talk:List of comic book speedsters, and it's page history, to see a current example. Also, feel free to let me know if you feel I'm incorrect in my statements, I think you make the perfect "third party".)
Anyway, for now, let's finish the Danny Phantom move, and I guess we can go from there? - jc37 11:55, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
Jc, it's not that I think you're wrong, it's just that I don't know enough about the subject to know otherwise. Like I say, per Wikipedia:Naming_conventions (people)#Nick names, pen names, stage names, cognomens, the common name applies. I don't know enough to know what the common name is, and I've never really been bothered to move pages based on the conventions unless it's necessary, they're only guidance not hard and fast rules that must be obeyed. With the Danny Phantom issue, I kinda agreed before I looked at the pages, which was bad, I know, and now I'm not clear why it matters which one goes where. Is there any reason to swap them around? I don't mind doing it, I just don't want to stir up a hornets nest. Sorry to backtrack, but like I say, I was nodding in agreement without looking. That's why I checked out all the Sam whatever her name is stuff so thoroughly. :) Steve block Talk 12:05, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
"Jc, it's not that I think you're wrong..." - I'm not sure which of my statements that was referring to. please clarify?
As for Sam Manson, I've seen nearly every episode, and that's the name she goes by, as I mentioned above. So it shouldn't be controversial. I was/am just hesitant to say that it's won't be, because I have been constantly surprised by what people choose to create "controversy" about. But ignoring the "x"-factor of surprise, then no, it shouldn't be controversial. Though if you move hers for reasons of removing the quotes, you probably should do the same to Jasmine "Jazz" Fenton (even her parents call her "Jazz"). Hope this clarifies. - jc37 12:23, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

<re-indent> You said, "feel free to let me know if you feel I'm incorrect", so I said "it's not that I think you're wrong". The reason I ask about controversy is because if you believe it will be controversial then it has to be listed at Wikipedia:Requested moves. So if you're sure Samantha "Sam" Manson should be at Sam Manson, then I can move that. Would Jazz need admin assistance? Where would it move to? Steve block Talk 13:02, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

1.) Oh, I was talking about the speedster discussion page, and was asking for your opinion on that. : )
2.) At Wikipedia requested moves? or at WP:COMIC's requested moves? Or did I get confused below? Is our requested moves just a "heads up" (a noticeboard) about the other one, rather than our own listing (which is what I was requesting below)?
3.) And yes, I'm sure about Sam being the most common.
4.) It would seem that Jazz is already at Jazz Fenton... I saw the other listing on the Navbox... (I think I was tired when I posted : )
Hope this clarifies. : ) - jc37 21:15, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
1.) I haven't looked at the speedster page yet, sorry.
2.) I haven't looked at WP:RM in ages, but from memory all contentious moves should be listed there to attract the widest audience and build the strongest consensus. Whether that position has changed to allow WikiProjects their own processes I don't know, but you can guarantee that if you don't list it there someone will complain. I'm still unclear as to what you were asking me below regarding transclusion.
3 and 4, fair enough. I take that to mean Sam can be moved, but leave Jazz alone. Steve block Talk 21:32, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
(#1) No worries. Actually, I am thinking that maybe it should be listed at WP:RM for the reasons you describe above.
(#2) - Yes, I was requesting our own process, with a link to it at WP:RM to make it obvious for anyone there. I think it's a good idea, but I agree that there is a possibility that "someone" may complain if we start our own process. I have no problem with the idea of discussing it "somewhere" in order to determine consensus. (Probably at WP:RM's talk page?)
(3&4) - yes. - jc37 22:37, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

On the Danny Phantom issue, why wouldn't Danny Phantom (character) be at Danny Fenton? If the show is titled Danny Phantom, makes sense to put the show there, and if the character is Danny Fenton, then we don't have to disambiguate, and if we don't, we shouldn't. Steve block Talk 13:08, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

  • Most common name per Wikipedia:Naming_conventions (people)#Nick names, pen names, stage names, cognomens
  • If, eventually we have a Superman and Clark Kent situation, then both names should be available, though for right now, Danny Fenton should redirect to Danny Phantom
  • "Character" gets priority for the undisambiguated name over media types
  • Because it's the naming convention for WikiProject (television). (Not to mention that it's also WP:NCC : )
  • Also, as I was fixing links, I found it was rather common for people to use [[Danny Phantom]] to mean the character, rather than the show. I fixed those, but I wouldn't doubt that there will be more.
Hope that helps. - jc37 21:15, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
  • I'm not as hot on naming conventions as I probably should be, but is it established that "character" gets priority for the undisambiguated name over media types? Steve block Talk 21:32, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
  • However, we do have another option: Danny Phantom becomes a disambiguation page, with links to Danny Phantom (TV series), and Danny Phantom (Daniel Fenton). From what I can tell, this is the "correct" procedure, though when only 2 or 3 articles are involved, we can place a dab template at the top of the main page, instead. (See Kite, for example.) The latter is what I am suggesting. Think of it as if it was all one page, and we were going to do a split. I presume we wouldn't split the character information from Danny Phantom first, we would split the media information first, thus creating Danny Phantom (TV series) - jc37 22:37, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Builder Award

The Builder Award
Not for any particular action -- and I have to say I disagree with many of yours -- but for sheer, bulldog willingness to get in there day after day and chew the policy bone. John Reid 06:52, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

{{speechless}} Steve block Talk 13:50, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Requested moves

I think, since we have an updated naming convention, and more than a few pages may need to be moved, at least temporarily we should have Wikipedia:WikiProject Comics/Requested moves. The way that Wikipedia:Requested moves seems to do it, it to have Wikipedia:Requested moves/Current transcluded onto it. "Current" being the actual requests. Perhaps we should clarify that. So for us that would be: Wikipedia:WikiProject Comics/Requested moves/Current requests.

This should proactively deal with potential "move wars" in a more process-related, and civil way. (And prevents us from unnecesarily bloating the "main" requested moves page, though we should place a link on it, obviously.)

What do you think? - jc37 23:41, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

  • I think the notice board might be a better place to transclude it to, might be worth getting Chris' input on this too. Steve block Talk 11:29, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
  • I totally agree with the idea of using the notice board, I just didn't think that to be on the notice board template, it had to be a sub-page of it. In any case, I really have no preference to where and how it's placed, just was thinking that having such a page would be a good idea. : ) - jc37 11:55, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
  • I'm not clear what's being transcluded where. Talk me through it again. If Wikipedia:WikiProject Comics/Requested moves/Current requests is being transcluded to the noticeboard, I'd just as soon make it a subpage of the noticeboard, since to me I don't see that we have to have a Wikipedia:WikiProject Comics/Requested moves, that's what the noticeboard is doing. Walk me through from the beginning. What is it we need that the noticeboard isn't currently doing? Steve block Talk 12:08, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Ok, now I feel sheepish (cut to a Warner Bros. cartoon sound effect : ) - I was reading "noticeboard" to mean the template, rather than the noticeboard page. It would appear that we already have a "requested moves" on the noticeboard page. So what I thought was a "good idea" has already been implemented : ) - My apologies for the confusion. - jc37 12:23, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Your note

Hi Steve, I do agree that sources have to be evaluated in context to an extent, but I'd need a context myself before saying more than that. As for Usenet, it wouldn't be a reliable source for anything but itself, and not for biographical information. The danger with evaluating sources too much is that we don't want people rejecting reliable sources simply because they disagree with them. I tend to think if the source is published by a reliable publisher, if s/he's working in a relevant field, and if the material is directly relevant, it can be used without further evaluation. SlimVirgin (talk) 22:30, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

User:2005

I'm considering starting an RFC process on 2005, based on User:Barberio/scratch as his behaviour has not improved. (Taking ownership of WP:EL, Personal Attacks, sloppy use of reverts...) Would you be interested in supporting or endorsing this? --Barberio 01:12, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

MfD on Admin Standards pages

Please see this deletion debate. Carcharoth 00:55, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

  • Ta. Have supported the deletion, since I never agreed with the page and used my standards in a bid to contextualise the page. Which has grown. Steve block Talk 19:52, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

temporary watchlist idea

Steve, where should I got to propose or at least discuss a change to the MediaWiki software that would add the option for a watchlist addition to expire in 3 or 7 days? When I make changes on a page, I add it to my watchlist, but sometimes I only want to watch it for a few days to make sure the page is not vandalized again. It would be helpful if your watchlist entries could only last for a few days; items' expiration watchlist time would be reset upon each time you edited them. So, maybe I want to watch something for 3 days, and then I edit it two days in. I then have it on my watchlist for three more days from that point on. It would be another way to prevent editor burnout. --Chris Griswold (☎☓) 22:25, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

They could be called "Active Watchlist" items, items whose activity you are simply trying to monitor for only a short period. --Chris Griswold (☎☓) 22:28, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
The best starting point is the technical section of the village pump, they'll either direct you ;to where you want to go or make another suggestion, it may be achievable through javascripting, for example.. Steve block Talk 19:57, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Cats and Dogs Portals

Hi, Steve block. If you can offer some tips on the respective portal talk pages about how to improve Cats and Dogs up to "featured" quality, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Rfrisbietalk 17:54, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

  • Um. I don't really do much with portals anymore, so I don't know what standards they have. A featured queue and an updated news section used to be enough to do it, but beyond that I have no idea. Steve block Talk 19:58, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
    • Okay, thanks. Your name's still on the project list, so I thought I'd pick your brain. :-) Regards, Rfrisbietalk 22:07, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

My RfA

Hey Steve, as you requested, I am notifying you of my RfA. Looking forward to hearing your opinion! - Mike | Talk 21:10, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Steve, that support vote means alot. Good to see that I didn't offend you too much early on :-). - Mike | Talk 21:14, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
I still don't agree with everything you do, to be honest Mike, but I don't see admin as a big deal. I don't agree with your comments or assessment of Calvin and Hobbes, I think it's a high level article and I don't think it's the best comics article ever written, in fact I think it'd lose Featured status if it was nominated today. However, that's no reason to with-hold on an RFA. I think you need to be more open-minded, but again, that's no reason to with-hold admin status. You didn't offend me, but you certainly frustrated me, and so I try to keep out of your way in best dispute resolution practise. But again, that's no reason to oppose. Good luck with the admin request, I don't think you will abuse the tools, and that's really all that matters. Steve block Talk 21:21, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
I agree, it does need a lot of cleanup in the recurring themes. Perhaps I can post a note to the comics wikiproject. I've been doing some work on cleaning that stuff up and hopefully I'll be able to get the cruft added in ther by anon IPs out soon enough. I don't think it would lose featured status though, and the rest of the article is extremely well done and covers basically everything anybody would need to know about the strip. Still, you're right, it does need to be outsourced to sub-articles. There's a discussion going on about that right now on the talk page, if you're interested. Thanks for your opinions though, I appreciate it. - Mike | Talk 21:26, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
No problem. I think the article would fail on referencing issues, and on comprehensiveness. It doesn't cover criticisms or reviews of the work, and the sections on the plot have no references and are written from an in universe style. But I think we just have different views on what the article should look like, which is why I stopped editing it. Still, take it easy. Steve block Talk 21:32, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Re: pointless

Steve block wrote:

I see you deleted WP:You told a developer to get stuffed and now you have the cheek to complain that your user scripts are playing up? as pointless. It wasn't pointless, it was an attempt at humour. Inspired by other, similarly humorous redirects. Still, it's gone now. Would have been nice if you had dropped me a line. There's no point having a pointless argument about it, I'm sure you feel IAR or SNOW covers it, and who am I to argue? Not sure I could completely disagree, but I couldn't see the harm in it either. Still, happy editing. Steve block Talk 23:16, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi there. I understand your intentions, and I don't want to start an argument. Just remember we are here to write an encyclopedia, not a joke book. Keep humorous content in project space to a minimum; use your userspace, or another website dedicated to such things (Uncyclopedia, for example). Thanks – Gurch 01:55, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Speedster (comics)

Hey, Steve! Long time no talk. Sorry to bother you, but it looks we might have an edit war at speedster (comics) between myself and Ace Class Shadow. If you could chime in with your opinion on that article’s talk page, so that we can achieve some sort of consensus, it would be appreciated. Thanks. Nightscream 10:44, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Fictional texts

I'd love any input or organization you might be able to put to User:Phil Sandifer/Fiction essay. I'm trying to work out on broad principle some of the popular culture issues, at least as they relate to fictional texts, so that debates over them are somewhat less sterile, and so that everyone is on the same page about things like sourcing. Phil Sandifer 18:31, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

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