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[edit] Talk:Al Wolters

Please see Talk:Al Wolters. I have moved your question to the talk page as it ought to be there rather than on WP:RM. I hope that answers your question. If not please feel free to post more either on Talk:Al Wolters or my talk page. Oh and BTW you can auto sign your messages on a talk page with ~~~~ which will be turned into nickname and date time stamp automagicaly. I do not monitor other users talk pages as a rule, so I will not see any response you post here -- Philip Baird Shearer 22:37, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Wolters: deleted article

pasted from my talk page --Doc (?) 12:34, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Hi Doc Glasgow - I noticed that an article I started on Al Wolters has been deleted. Is it possible to contest the decison? Or is this too late? I've been away from Wiki for awhile and have only just noticed this. Cheers, SteveBish 10:38, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Hm, actually, I can't see any reason why your article deserved to be deleted - I'd have voted to retain it. But, it was deleted after a deletion discussion at WP:AFD (you will find the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Albert M. Wolters). It could only be un-deleted if the case was argued successfully at WP:VFU 'votes for undeletion', but I think you might have some problems. The article has been validly and unanimously deleted under the process - so you would need to be able to show some evidence of 'notability' missed by those who voted delete. I think your chances are slim, but you can try. The other option would be to place some of the information in a different article - ironicaly articles on books are less liable to being deleted than those on authors. Try creating a valid article on one of his books - and then give some basic information about the author. (If it is of any help, I can retrieve your original article and post it on your userpage - but you'd have to promise not to recreate the article without a VFU success. I'll be away for a week from tonight, so if you want this done after that, approach another admin and point them to this discussion here.) Hope that helps. Let me know what you decide to do --Doc (?) 12:32, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Hi, SteveBish. Doc glasgow's asked that I might lend you a hand through the process of VfU since he's going to be away for the duration of it. I already saw your request at VfU and said keep deleted based on a unanimous AfD debate. A good way of persuading VfU to restore an article is to write a new version of it which addresses the concerns of the original AfD debate (see Doc's link above). You could do that somewhere like User:SteveBish/Sandbox and post a link to it in the VfU. If you strip it down to the grit of the article and make a clear case, without using 'peacock terms', for his importance/notability, then VfU could well be persuaded to give the article another chance. Note that it should probably be written outside of article space because any rewrite in the article is likely to get speedily redeleted as a recreation of deleted content. -Splashtalk 16:45, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
Per your request, I have put the final version of the article before deletion in User:SteveBish/Sandbox. Note that it is not ok to simply put this back into the artcile unless VfU mandates that (in which case it need to be done by an admin anyway, to recover the history). I'd suggest you rewrite the article in place or something, or in another temporary subpage of your userspace and then note that fact at the VfU. -Splashtalk 18:49, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wolters again

Steve, Tony Sidaway has unilaterally undeleted this article, short-circuiting the debate at VfU. Whilst I'm glad the article is back, I can't say I'm chuffed at the way it happened. Tomy's actions are not going to please a lot of people, and may result in tje article being deleted again or proposed for deletion. Please be aware that if this heats up (and it may not) it really isn't about you, Prof Wolters, or even the article. It will be about Wikipedia's process and ongoing arguments over it. You just may get caught in the cross-fire. The article is good, and will probably survive in the end on its merits. If it gets a 'retrial' at WP:AFD, there should be a string of keep votes. I just wanted to warn you, although the fuss may not come to anything in the end. I'm away for a week now, contact Splash if you need any further help. --Doc (?) 23:06, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright infringement

Please be aware that changing someone else's text from a first-person narrative into third-person, as you did in creating the Wolters article, is a form of copyright infringement. We take such violations very seriously and will ban editors who persistently fail to respect the rights of others. If you wish to add content to Wikipedia, you must do so using your own words. --Michael Snow 21:38, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

What do you mean, "rewrite the lot"? --Michael Snow 15:41, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Johnann Heinrich Diemer

Is this guy notable per WP:BIO? Is there more to this than just being a "secretary to the editorial board" of a journal? If so, you may wish to comment here. Grandmasterka 05:32, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Errors. I tried to correct some obvious errors: (1) First name was misspelled; (2) Non-existing location of birth; (3) Wrong year of death. Could you please check the details? I don't have access to a source with these details. Thank you. --LambiamTalk 07:01, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

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