Talk:Steven Van Zandt

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[edit] Connection to apartheid

What does Van Zandt have to do woth apartheid in south africa, You can see he is in one of the sub categories Thanks! [11:36, 18 February 2006 203.144.30.219]

Uh, did you like read the article? [02:53, 19 February 2006 64.12.117.12]

[edit] Separate article for Little Steven and the Disciples of Soul

Why is there a seperate article on Little Steven and the Disciples of Soul? The "Disciples" were a just a bunch of studio sideman with no real group identity, who changed on each album in SVZ's barely-noticed solo career. Thusfor, the "Disciples" can eazily be incoprorated into the Steven Van Zandt article. 64.12.117.12 17:42, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

I strongly beg to differ on several grounds. First - the original "Disciples" had a group identity, even though it only lasted an album. The core of the group - Van Zandt, Danelli and Bouvoir - WERE the identity of the band for the better part of three years. Second, while it might fit into SVZ's article, it makes sense to keep it separate from the main article because it's almost entirely separate from Van Zandt's main claims to fame (his career in the E Street Band and as a producer).
Mitchberg 23:15, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
I tend to agree with the first poster, in favor of the merge. Mitchberg, your article on the Disciples fails to establish any identity or personality for them whatsoever; it's just a listing of personnel, that changes with each album. You say the core group was together for three years, but what if anything did they accomplish during that time? I own Voice of America, and I saw Little Steven in concert as an opening or benefit concert act several times in the 1984-1987 timeframe, but I gotta say they were one lousy on-stage group(s), playing too loudly and singing too incomprehensibly and foregoing melody almost completely, with little or no stage presence to boot. Whichever iteration(s) of the Disciples of Soul I saw, it had little soul and no followers; audiences generally stayed by the food stands until they were gone. As to your last point, Van Zandt does indeed have multiple claims to fame (you left out Sopranos), but so to do Barbra Streisand, Frank Sinatra, Nancy Reagan, and many others, all of whose entries cover all these aspects within one article. Wasted Time R 01:58, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
I have found no clear guidelines as to how to separate things like ongoing projects (which this certainly is) from the artist's personal article, or how much identity to put into it..
I saw the original band - with the horn section and all - in Edinburgh in 1982, touring behind "Men Without Women". Steve is not my favorite frontman of all time ,but I loved the band. MWoW is one of my five favorite records of all time; VoA was a disappointment, and every album after that (up through Revolution, after which I stopped buying) was worse and worse.
Anyway - if someone wants to merge it, go ahead. I'm not really seeing it, but I'm still new to this, and have not yet learned the Wikipedia secret handshake.
Mitchberg 20:18, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
After further reflection, I think I found the best solution. Your LS & Disciples of Soul article was really three album articles in sequence, with a little overview of the whole project. I merged the overview into the main SVZ article and redirected the Disciples of Soul article to it, and then I created three new album articles for each of the albums you wrote up. Those are the appropriate places for the group and additional personnel material that you had written. All make sense? Wasted Time R 02:44, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
Yep!
Mitchberg 15:18, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Origin of name

It says he was born Steven Lento, when/why did he change his last name to Van Zandt? [07:17, 30 March 2006 12.75.199.155]

Does this guy have any relation to townes van zandt? [10:14, 6 April 2006 203.45.119.10]

Per Tom Tomorrow at http://thismodernworld.com/date/2005/11/08/, no. Wasted Time R 10:58, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
That and the whole "Birth name is Lento" bit.
Actually, I remember hearing somewhere that he took Van Zandt as his stage game because he liked reading Townes. Or maybe it was listening to Lynyrd Skynyrd...
Mitchberg 13:37, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
No relation to Townes, but I've added some discussion on Townes' lineage at Talk:Townes Van Zandt#The Van Zandts, Townes and "Little Steven"? -MrFizyx 15:16, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Van Zandt is the name of his stepfather, per additions I've just made to the article. Wasted Time R 14:34, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Picture

It would probably be better to get a picture of Steve Van Zandt as himself instead of the Sopranos character Sil. [21:36, 7 April 2006 70.51.140.49]

His Little Steven garb is just as much in character. Wasted Time R 22:09, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] More on his musical crusade

I second the suggestion that the picture show Van Zandt as himself rather than the character Silvio Dante.

Van Zandt has dedicated much of his last several years to preserving the memory of, and reviving a taste for, the Brittish Invasion and classic rock of the 50s and 60s--what he has called "garrage rock." He has promoted this on his radio show, "Little Steven's Underground Garrage," and through interviews and his own writing. In the long run Van Zandt may be better known for this work than for his role in the Spranos. Perhaps the entry should devote more attention to his role in promoting garrage rock.

[edit] Why Van Zandt?

There are other Van Zandts in Middletown; did he choose the name after one of them? Septentrionalis 05:27, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

It has already been posted that he took his name from his step-father. XdiabolicalX 00:59, 14 October 2006 (UTC)