Talk:Steve Buyer

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[edit] Controversy section

A controversy section that is 2/3 to 3/4 of the text of the article. And only a single citation in the entire controversy section. This is definitely not good for a living person biography, and especially not for a US congress person, and especially not good when we have congressional IP addresses trying to remove the entire section. I don't know this congressman, and have no idea about the status of the controversies, but the current state is in total violation of WP:BIO. Pretty much every allegation in the controversy section needs references that pass WP:RS. Given the back and forth over the deletions from the congressional IP, I'm not sure what the proper path forward is, but the article cannot remain as it is. - TexasAndroid 19:53, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Florida Republican Leadership PAC

begin discussion moved from my talk page —Cryptic 09:25, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for taking the time to clean up the Steve Buyer article. It seems that the refrences to Mark Foley's money to steve buyer have been removed. I have included links below, if you could please place the item back.

Florida Republican Leadership PAC http://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/lookup2.asp?strID=C00325969 Look who the affliated person is

Donations from FRLPAC http://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.asp?strID=C00325969&Cycle=2002

Hope this is sufficent to get the sorced fact back into the article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 199.8.170.203 (talk • contribs) 23:17, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Yes, this does show that they have a funding connection. This in itself isn't particularly noteworthy. The point of the paragraph I removed was that "there have been increasing calls for Rep. Buyer to return the 2500 dollars"; it's this statement that needs a source, and I was unable to find one except for a few mentions on blogs, which aren't reliable sources. —Cryptic 23:25, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

end discussion moved from my talk page —Cryptic 09:25, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

I've since reverted this material out of the article twice. The second time additionally cited http://www.mydd.com/story/2006/9/30/112258/884 and http://electioncentral.tpmcafe.com/blog/electioncentral/2006/oct/02/gop_candidates_pressured_on_foleys_dirty_money to ref the first statement, but both of these are user-created blogs (which fall well short of the sort of reliable source we need to include this kind of statement in the article), and neither of them mention any pressure to return the money (despite the url of the second). The second does link to http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061002/ap_on_go_co/foley_money, which might possibly be an acceptable source if the link wasn't dead; however, it doesn't include enough information to easily track down the article now that it's no longer hosted on Yahoo. —Cryptic 09:25, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

I see you have the abilty to keep me from makeing changes, but I ask you to reconsider:

In light of the resignation of Rep. Mark Foley (R, Florida) it has been brought to attention by many blogs that 2500 dollars was giving to Steve Buyer by a PAC with direct ties to the alleged pedophile. [7] [8] [9] Rep. Buyer received the money in 2002 from Foley’s ‘Florida Republican Leadership PAC’ and the gift to Rep. Buyer was the second largest that year. [10]

The statement added last night does not contain ANY refrence to pressure being put of Steve Buyer. If you do not find his accepting money from Mark Foley signifigant, I suggest you read the NUMEROUS articles that are about the same subject with different canadidates. This site should contain as much information as posible, and my question to you is: Is there any question that he took the money? Is there any question that the money has direct ties to Mark Foley? Is recieve money from Mark Foley signifigent (agian, refer to the numerous articles written on the subject)? And finalely, are there blogs that point out the fact that Steve Buyer took the money?

Now why do you insest on removing the content?