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[edit] If you have a few moments, please

These crackhead, overly ambitious editors are attempting to blow it to pieces. (er, no offense to any crackheads who may be reading this entry)

Thanks in advance, Ken

KenHouston 03:32, 31 January 2007 (UTC)


[edit] ECourier

Could you please unprotect the page so that others might have the opportunity to post an article pursuant to your comment closing the DRV?Jaybregman 22:50, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

  • The article ECourier is not currently protected. Andrew LenahanStarblind 15:46, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
    • Andrew, I have just looked and it is protected. This message appears: "This page has been deleted and protected to prevent re-creation." and it appears this is by User:Steel359. Could you please unprotect it so others can have the opportunity to create an article? Jaybregman 09:22, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pumpkin-headed deer

Pumpkin-headed deer is now full of lots of 'citation needed' comments that someone put in. It now doesn't look very nice whilst it is quite an interesting article. You may want to have a look. SuzanneKn 15:54, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rec.sport.pro-wrestling (2nd nomination)

You contributed to the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rec.sport.pro-wrestling (second nomination). This was closed as speedy keep under criterion for speedy deletion G5 as a page created by a banned user, and its content deleted. You may or may not want to contribute to the new discussion, at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rec.sport.pro-wrestling (2nd nomination). This message is being given to all users - except proven sockpuppets and those who have already appeared at the new Afd- who contributed in the original discussion. --Robdurbar 14:57, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of films with similar themes and release dates AfD

Hi, you've expressed an opinion in the deletion discussion of this article. I've recently suggested a compromise in hopes of improving the article while keeping both sides happy, and would appreciate if you could revisit the issue. Thanks. --Wafulz 18:24, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] My Request for Adminship

Thanks for contributing to my RfA! Thank you for your support in my my RfA, which passed with a tally of 117/0/1. I hope that my conduct as an admin lives up to the somewhat flattering confidence the community has shown in me. Whenever I need to communicate with other users as part of my work, I will try to give good strong answers, like I did to the RfA questions. Please don't hesitate to leave a message on my talk page should you need anything or want to discuss something with me.--Nilfanion (talk) 23:00, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] My RFA

Hey, thanks so much for supporting my recent RFA. A number of editors considered that I wasn't ready for the mop yet and unfortunately the RFA did not succeed (69/26/11). There are a number of areas which I will be working on (including changing my username) in the next few months in order to allay the fears of those who opposed my election to administrator.

I'd like to take this opportunity to thank you sincerely for your support over the past week. I've been blown away by the level of interest taken in my RFA and appreciate the time and energy dedicated by all the editors who have contributed to it, support, oppose and neutral alike. I hope to bump into you again soon and look forward to serving you and Wikipedia in any way I can. Cheers! The Rambling Man 18:58, 11 January 2007 (UTC) (the non-admin, formerly known as Budgiekiller)

[edit] Hoaxes such as this

Maybe a "db-joke" template should be created for these articles, to save everyone the bother of these AfD's? The guideline specifically says that anything "obviously ridiculous" isn't given the "protection" afforded to suspected hoaxes. yandman 10:47, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Newyorkbrad's RfA

Thank you for your support on my RfA, which closed favorably this morning, as well as for your kind comments accompanying your !vote. I appreciate the confidence the community has placed in me and am looking forward to my new responsibilities. Please let me know if ever you have any comments or suggestions, especially as I am learning how to use the tools. Best regards, Newyorkbrad 20:48, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

  • Oh, it "closed favorably", did it? That's about the modest understatement of the millenium: 225-to-2 is phenomenal, easily one of the top 5 or so RfA's ever, I'm sure! Congratulations! Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 15:40, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] ... uh, Mouse Trap ...

  • I grinned when I read your Deletion Review comment "The little plastic dude who dives into the pan is an absolutely vital part of Mouse Trap, but that doesn't mean he gets an article." That analogy makes me want to invite you to join Wikipedia:WikiProject Board and table games. Just as in the case of certain video games, collectible card games, et cetera, there are people who think tons of excessive detail belongs in their favorite game's WP article and each bit merits its own breakout article, no matter how OR, no matter how NPOV. The people who are actually doing most of the work are good about this, but we get tons of drop-ins (often anons) who add fluff. For instance I'm a thirty-year veteran of the Diplomacy (game) hobby but I'm ashamed of how much OR is constantly in the Strategy section which should be a tenth as long and much less absolutist. I proposed dropping it and replacing it with a paragraph or two based on Richard Sharp's book and some DIPLOMACY WORLD featured articles, but nobody else has agreed. Barno 06:06, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
    • Interesting. I didn't know such a project existed, and I have joined up, although I don't know just how much I can participate as my wikitime is usually spent on deletion issues these days. Also, are you on BoardGameGeek as well? Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 15:36, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
      • Yes, I'm on BGG as "Mike_Barno" with an underscore. But I don't post very much there. Thanks for whatever bits of help you may end up giving to the boardgames articles. Barno 01:14, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] If you actually read that...

I stopped a long time ago and I apolizied also if you read my last comment. So please don't message me about this issue because I am still cooling off from it and you need to read a little more carefully there if you want to accuse me. --Gndawydiak 02:05, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wild beasts

You expressed in the Afd for this article that you thought that it should be deleted as there are know sources that the band have signed for domino records. The consensus was to keep the article. I have now removed this statement from the article as I can't find any myself. As I am the original author of the article, I feel it is only right to ask if you would like me to take it back to Afd, in response to the removal of this claim? Regards RyanPostlethwaiteSee the mess I've created or let's have banter 19:24, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

  • Thank you for asking, but I don't think it's necessary, as there seemed to be a decent Keep consensus anyway and the Domino Records claim was apparently not the deciding factor. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 01:13, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your 'driving license' image

I was involved in a discussion about colorful signatures, and yours was mentioned, so I came by to have a look. I happened to be distracted by your nice 'driving license' image on your user page, but I couldn't help noticing the death date! Is there a story behind that? Carcharoth 14:08, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

  • Nah, not really. The "death date" is March 15th, the Ides of March. I don't absolutely remember why I picked 2007 but it may have been because that's the year my both my driver's licence (from which I got the picture) and my American Express card (from which the microchip part was copied) were both supposed to expire. The Interlocutor's Licence itself was made as my ID image for DeviantArt in 2002. People have apparently seen a lot in it that isn't there, such as comparing the crosshairs-like thing in the background to the Zodiac killer symbol, but it's actually a centering mark from a printed cardboard box. Good to see the ol' Interlocutor's Licence apparently hasn't lost its power to intrigue. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 01:29, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Donnie Davies

Just thought I'd let you know that I nominated the article for a deletion reversal which you can weigh in on here: WP:DRV Thanks! SquatGoblin 04:07, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of unusual deaths

May be coming up for AfD yet again; check the talk page. You commented on the last vote, so I thought I'd mention it, in case you're still interested. - DavidWBrooks 21:40, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Angry Nintendo Nerd

Hi,

I recently came across the 'Angry Nintendo Nerd' (James Rolfe) series on YouTube, and after having a few good laughs, came to Wikipedia to get a bit of background on the creator. I see that the subject was deemed unnotable. I have had a look at the deletion discussions, and it seems everything was done fairly and reasonably back in July. However, the Angry Nintendo Nerd has grown in popularity and notoriety in recent months, and I have done a bit of research to back this up:

  • Mentioned in the Philadelphia City Paper (Nov 9 2006) [1]
  • Claims 1.5 Million hits to Cinemassacre.com, Mr. Rolfe's personal website, during October 2006[2]
  • Mr. Rolfe quit his job to focus on the Angry Nintendo Nerd project[3]
  • Over half a million subscribers on YouTube[4]
  • Interviewed on 411mania, apparently a website with a 10-year pedigree, Jan. 5th 2007 [5]
  • Interviewed on BlogCritics Magazine on Jan. 24th 2007, where Mr. Rolfe claims to have received 3 million hits during December [6]

I see that you protected the article from re-creation last month, so I thought I should come to you first to get your feedback on this matter. Thank you for your time. Vranak

    • Normally I'd advise to discuss it on Deletion Review, but the truth in this particular case is that this is on Deletion Review pretty regularly (sometimes under slightly different titles), and every time it's had unanimous consensus to keep it deleted. It was discussed three times in December, and as recently as late January there was a vote to keep the talk page deleted. I don't think the article is likely to be created again unless circumstances really change. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 01:11, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Question on your inclusion standards

Hi Starblind!

I read your User:Starblind/Inclusion subpage and found it very interesting. I have a question and wonder how your standard measures up against it. (I am not trying to say that your inclusion standards are wrong, but when reading criterion pages I always try drumming counterexamples- exceptions to prove the rule one might say... On AFD I have always found your opinions well thought out and reasonable.)

Let us say we come across an article on... let's say Nyakagomba, which is a "ward" in the Geita district of Mwanza Region in northern Tanzania. OK, what kind of reliable sources can we find about this place? Well we could go to the Tanzanian census and read that it is classified as a rural ward with a population of 12900 people and 1966 households. We can pull out a map where we will see that the ward lies west of the main town of Geita. (Maybe with a more detailed map we could say something about the roads which lead to Nyakagomba.) I am afraid that a pretty thorough round of searching on the net didn't reveal anything more than this. With the information we have, what we would wind up with is a stub article something along the lines of

Nyakagomba is a ward in the Geita district of the Mwanza Region in Tanzania. It is located west of the city of Mwanza. The ward has a population of 12900 people, and there are 1966 households.

Naturally, there may exist some more paper sources on the ward, but (for the sake of argument), let's assume that this was all that existed. Would Nyakagomba be a valid topic for an article even though we cannot make a non-stub article with reliable sources? On one hand, I believe that if someone tried creating a stub article like this, and someone else sent it to AFD, we would get a lot of "keep real places" votes, and that deleting a place of 10 000 people in Africa, while keeping a corresponding place in Europe would lead to a horrendous systematic bias. On the other hand, I can see great difficulties in expanding an article like this past the stub level with reliable sources, if it is at all possible.

How does your inclusion criterion handle this situation?

Let me just reiterate that I hold your AFD contributions in high regard, and I believe there is a lot which can be learned about Wikipedia and encyclopedic worthiness by reading your rationales on specific debates. Also, I think that your inclusion criterion holds valid for the vast majority of cases we see on AFD.

Sjakkalle (Check!) 13:12, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

  • That's an interesting case. Before examining it, I'd like to point out that I've often found that good sources aren't as hard to find as people think they are. As a result, things that might seem at first unverifiable or unexpandable often are if one digs far enough. My favourite example of this is Axehandle hound, which I nearly voted to delete but ended up saving after doing some plain ol' book-type research and finding a number of references (including Jorge Luis Borges among others) and rewriting the article around them. It seems to me that a place of 13,000 souls must get ink somewhere, even if the source isn't in English and isn't available online. The town where I live has maybe one tenth that population, but has its own weekly paper and is also covered by other larger newspapers in the surrounding area.
  • But I digress. Your scenario specifies that there aren't any additional sources to be found, so we must consider it within that framework. Given a real place whose existance is undisputed but nothing besides existance and population is verifiable, I'd say it would be an obvious candidate for merging into another article (in this case, apparently the Geita article). I've never claimed to be much of a mergist, but things that will never expand beyond a sentence or two are often merged, as well they should be). As an added bonus, merging can be done at editorial discretion, so there's no need to embark on the messy and possibly contentious AfD that might have resulted had anyone tried to delete it outright. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 23:13, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
    • The save you made on Axehandle hound was great, and illustrated the best possible result an AFD discussion can produce. Cleaning up something deletable to something keepable is effectively creating a new article, and that is great!
    • Merging a stub on a real place is of course a reasonable option, although I generally will look for things even more stubby than that before I go ahead and merge (the "Nyakagombo is a ward in Geita." type of thing). In part this is because it is always possible that new sources pop up or are discovered, and for a person unfamiliar with Wikipedia, expanding a stub is easier than creating a new article from a redirect. In part because of a completely subjective and irrational feeling I have that a district of 10000 people "deserves" its own article no matter how thin that article would be. I remember redirecting some 200 substubs on uninhabited islands in the Maldives ("X is one of the uninhabited islands of Y atoll") to their atoll several months ago (one which had a bit more content was sent to AFD, the added content was deemed unverifiable so that article was redirected as well). I agree that in a great many cases, simply merging or redirecting stubs which can hardly be expanded is a good way to handle them, and I have often done so boldly and so far I have not seen any major complaints over it.
    • As always, it's great to chat and discuss things with you! Sjakkalle (Check!) 08:25, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy keep

What grounds did you close Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2007 as speedy keep?

  • There are no votes
  • Unquestionable vandalism it is not: 2007 is not a feature article, etc.
  • I am not banned
  • It is not policy or guideline

I see no grounds for it. Cburnett 17:17, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

  • Firstly, there's no reasonable chance that the article 2007 would be deleted. Secondly, based on the nomination text, the nomination appeared to exist to call attention to another AfD. Whether or not your intentions were good (and I'm making no statement on that either way) there's no reason to begin an editor-intensive process which has no chance of actually passing. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 17:24, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
    • No reasonable chance is not listed on WP:SK. WP:SNOW is not listed either. Regardless of the chances, you still have no grounds to speedy keep. I want to hear the arguments for why 2007 and the thousands like it should stay. Really. Cburnett 17:28, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
      • It's longstanding practice to close any editor-intensive process that has no reasonable chance to succeed, whether it be an AfD, RfA, DRV, etc. call it WP:SNOW or WP:IAR if you must. We probably have a point of agreement in that year articles would be better as a prose overview rather than a list of events, but trying to AfD the current article is not the way to bring about such a change. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 17:55, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
        • Naturally, you reply a half-hour later and I just reverted your unjustified closing of the AFD. Where do you say such change should start? Cburnett 18:01, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
          • Talk:2007? Proto ► 23:26, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
          • It looks like you did revert the closure, but it was once again speedy closed by another admin after garnering not a single vote to delete. I hate to say I told you so, but, well... Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 22:39, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fuzzy Zoeller

Nice catch... I don't know how the hell I missed that.--Isotope23 14:35, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

  • No problem. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 14:41, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Katmandu (comic)

You wouldn't happen to have access to a copy of that issue of The Comics Journal you mentioned in the AfD debate, by any chance? I'm trying to hunt down sources for the article, but it's a rather difficult process. Shimeru 20:16, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

  • I don't have the issue myself, but I believe it's #237, cover date September 7, 2001. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 03:03, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
    • Well, that's a start. Thank you. I'll see whether I can track down a copy. Shimeru 07:45, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Visual arts-related AfDs

Here's a template to use in an AfD, when it has been listed on Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Visual arts (please do list appropriate AfDs there). I think it should go under the article details and above the nom statement, as it is a formal notice and not part of the debate. It will sign your name with date stamp automatically. Please pass on to others.

Mnemonic: List of Visual arts-related Deletions.

Template to use:

{{subst:LVD}}

Result:


Tyrenius 00:12, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Funny

Funny you should mention this, but the movie isn't planned by immature children, adults actually. No, Madison Mott is using WRITING ON THE WALL for her first film. Website not being made yet. Story not completely finished. As such, Hollywood wanted to release a tiny bit of the rough storyline for viewers to get the kind of idea of what was going on. As such, it is noted that you made a very rude comment however funny.

Please refrain from doing so.

Writing On The Wall 18:40, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Survey Invitation

Hi there, I am a research student from the National University of Singapore and I wish to invite you to do an online survey about Wikipedia. To compensate you for your time, I am offering a reward of USD$10, either to you or as a donation to the Wikimedia Foundation. For more information, please go to the research home page. Thank you. --WikiInquirer 21:47, 3 March 2007 (UTC)talk to me

[edit] HHO gas

I have started a Deletion review you might be interested in. — Omegatron 14:34, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ultimate X-Men (story arcs): Peer Review

Greetings! In January, you participated in the discussion for the 2nd deletion nomination of Ultimate X-Men (story arcs). After two months of rewriting, reorganizing, and referencing, the article is now undergoing a WikiProject Comics peer review. Your editorial opinion would be most welcome to help us improve the article to A-class status. Thanks for your time! - fmmarianicolon | Talk 06:45, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ides of March

Dude what's up what that death date on your userpage that reads that your dead today, I mean is there a story behind that?? --165.155.200.143 14:10, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WP:PORNBIO reversion

Could you comment on the line you reverted on WP:PORNBIO in the discussion on Wikipedia talk:Notability (pornographic actors)#"do not on their own establish notability"? --AnonEMouse (squeak) 15:06, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Third opinion

Please give a third opinion at Talk:Chinaman. You may also want to read English language names for Chinese people beforehand. Uncle G 17:12, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion review (and a barnstar!)

The Working Man's Barnstar
For all your work on Wikipedia:Deletion review, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion and Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion, and for being one of my favourite admins here! SunStar Net talk 18:11, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

With regards to MarchFirst, currently under discussion at DRV, please see the new sources I have found relating to this article - this may be of interest to you! Hope I've helped! --SunStar Net talk 18:11, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

  • Thank you, good to know somebody's noticed! Thanks too for looking into MarchFIRST... I think it's shaping up to be a very strongly referenced article... once the DRV is offical and final, of course. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 18:59, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
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