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[edit] How we face death is at least as important as how we face life

Removed claim that Nemesis was first Trek film about human nature. Star Trek II is about how we confront death, failure and old age, and how striving to do what we do best keeps us young and alive. That is also a look at human nature. So I took the claim out here. 74.73.74.241 01:02, 6 March 2007 (UTC)


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"This film is widely regarded as the final Star Trek movie..." -- that's presumably based on the trailer saying "a generation's final journey" or something similar.

Also based on the fact the crew broke up and went their seperate ways

Why a related topics section with just a link to Star Trek? There's already a link to it in the very first paragraph of the article! —mhr 17:40, 26 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Hmm...I sense some evil here...

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[edit] Romulan Ale

Season Seven of DS9 ("Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges") clearly estabishes that the lifting of the embargo against the Romulan government means that Romulan Ale is finally legal in the Federation. This point is established during a conversation between Dr Bashir, Admiral Ross and Senator Cretak. So, since this movie takes place AFTER the Dominion War, previous entries that suggested Romulan Ale was still illegal are incorrect. LaForges remarks to the contrary are one of the many plot holes in this movie.

Not necessarily. The Romulans were part of an alliance to fight along side the Federation and Klingons against the Dominion. They seem to end the alliance soon after the Dominion War ended. The reason I say this is because in Nemesis, Admiral Janeway orders Captain Picard and crew to Romulus in order to answer the new Romulan Preator's call for peace. Because of this, the alliance obviosly ended after the end of the Dominion War for Shinzon to even play at peace. If the Romulan Star Empire and the Federation had an alliance, and then the Preator calls for peace with the Federation, I believe that this would raise a red flag at the protocol office of the Federation President (if that office exists), not to mention a red flag in both Admiral Janeway and Captain Picard. This means that, with the alliance between the Federation and the Romulan Star Empire ended at the conclusion of the Dominion War, the embargo would have been re-established. Admiral Ross said that the embargo against Romulan Ale was lifted because of the alliance. Since the alliance is no more, the embargo was re-established. Therefore, Geordi's statment in Nemesis is correct. Mainphramephreak 09:15, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Um, Anal Journey?

Can anyone else confirm the trailer's kerning problem and it looking like it says "A generation's anal journey begins"? I Googled the line and found nothing but Wikipedia and Wiki-derived sites.

I could find two independent Usenet posts observing this: [2] and [3]. I'll grant you that that's not much in the way of references, and the fact isn't that important... though it's funny as all hell. :-) 82.92.119.11 16:12, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Endorsing Google?

why do people use Google all the time[?] Wikipedia should not be endorsing one search engine I found more results on yahoo Dudtz 8/25/05 2:09 PM EST

Also, can anyone confirm something happening to Worf that would make him change his mind about becoming Federation Ambassador to the Klingon Empire (Or was it Vice-Versa?) as was suggested at the end of Deep Space 9? If this is true, what was he doing on the Enterprise?

In a cut scene from the movie, Worf said that he decided that he did not want to continue being an ambassador. In the book Articles of the Federation, his son Alexander becomes the Federation Ambassador to Qo'noS Willie 08:06, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Argo had WHEELS??

The year "was" 2379. Wouldn't we expect land vehicles to hover a few feet of the ground by then (like the Hoverboard of 2015)? --Shultz 23:21, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

I liked the hovercraft chase in Serenity (film) better.. =P DrWho42 01:37, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

So what if the year was 2379? If you were to ask somone from the 1950's what cars would be like in the year 2006, they would have said they could fly or, at least, hovered. Since I don't see any hovercars zooming by outside my window, I think it is safe to assume that rubber tires are still the more practical means of off-road ground travel.

In TNG's "All Good Things..." when they show the Cambridge scene you can see a hover car speeding past. Also, I somewhat recall an early Voyager reference that talks about hover cars. My feeling on the Argo is that its a stylistic response to Voyager's return home and Starfleet's reaction to the design of the Delta flyer, probably spurning a whole slew of "Retro" Starfleet designs. I think in the more symbolic meaning however, the Argo scene represents a kind of "middle age crisis" for Picard, in that he's getting up there in the years, and takes a moment to relive his school boy antics just before seeing Shinzon and realizing just where that type of lifestyle may have lead him. Arkcana 00:48, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Foot surgery

Is it true that during the commentary when Stuart Baird was informed the lukewarm box-office of Star Trek: Nemesis he went outside to kick a dumpster and had to get foot surgery thereafter? DrWho42 01:35, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Enterprise Image

The image of the E is from First Contact. Hopefully, someone with the Nemesis DVD can find a more appropriate image for this article. 68.41.122.213 10:04, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A complaint about Nemesis.

There's one thing I didn't like about Nemesis that I don't see here. Nemesis did a horrible job on props and sets. Whereas the various series and the other movies looked like they were from the remote future (valid exception: DS9's station scenes), Nemesis looked like it was filmed with studio-built poor knock offs of expensive but already available gadgets. This wasn't a problem with technology catching up to TNG, but rather with them deciding to use technology that wasn't up to that level. I think the lighting in the movie also lowered its visual appeal, albeit to a lesser extent. --Steven Fisher 15:46, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Burton/Sirtis video clip

I noticed that YouTube has removed this clip due to TOU. I've seen this clip many times but it does need to be properly sited. If anyone has a good link please edit.

[edit] Is Data organic?

In the movie, Dr. Crusher says that if the Enterprise is hit with the Thalaron beam, that everyone on board will be killed because of the radiation's ability to consume organic matter. When she said this, was she ignoring the fact that Data is not organic and would indeed survive the radiation. We see proof that Data is inorganic in First Contact when Data punctures the warp coolant tank releasing the coolant; as was mentioned earlier in the movie, the coolant also "liquifies" organic material, seeing as Data was not "liquified" when he is surrounded by the coolant, his status as an inorganic being is proved. So again, did Doctor Crusher just neglect to say anything about Data and focus simply on the rest of the organic crew, or was this a mistake on the part of the writers? Rajrajmarley 00:13, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I put up NPOV, but I also took out the Patrick Stewart interview link because....

...a message came up saying my edit was blocked because it was Blacklist Spam. I don't know what this meant but you can put the link back if I shouldn't have. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Occono (talk • contribs) 14:16, 26 March 2007 (UTC).

I'm removing the NPOV tag as this doesn't seem like a valid reason. Apologies in advance if I'm missing something here but it seems to me to be slim reasoning.--Lepeu1999 20:50, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Sorry if I was unclear, the blacklist spam thing happened the first time I tried to save the page, so I took out the link it said was spam, and thought I sould mention it here. I put up the NPOV because the article feels a little bit POV to me, but you've better judgement then me.--Occono 15:52, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

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