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[edit] Picture
Is it just my perception or is the coloring of Stan's trousers slightly different to the way its depicted on the wikipedia image?
[edit] Heritage
I just wanted to let everyone know I editied Stan's entry. He is not Italian-American, and there is no evidence to support this conclusion. The evidence we do have points to German-English.
Can you elaborate on this, please? Yanksox 14:35, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
The last name, Marsh, is of German origin. The name Stanley is also. His grandfather flew Spitfires in WWII- Spitfires are British planes. Shelly, Sharon, Randy, Stan are all English names, with Stan being the english version of Stanley. Kern is a Welsh-English-Scottish mixed name. The only way anyone could say he is Italian-American is if you want to say he is adopted. Honestly, why say he is Italian-America? It's not true.
Hey, it's me again. Someone tried to sneak the Italian thing in again, and I editied it to protect it from becoming a pile of lies. :P
There is no suggestion in the show that Stan is Italian and it should not be provided as official information.
I am Italian-American and the comment about first names and grandfather's roots can be drastically wrong. My first name is Nicholas, that doesn't warrant me as Greek or Russian. The only point you do have is last names. But my girlfriend is also Ialian-American, and her last name is Irish. A name doesn't really matter, it's how far you go. This is just a cartoon and to be frank, Stan could be anything. Oh, and I forgot. Ellis Island. Names were changed, my dad had his first name changed there. Well...I'm tired. Yanksox 05:43, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
Very true- But Marvin Marsh said he flew Spitfires in WWII. Spitfires=British plane. And, while Stan COULD be anything, all evidence we can gather points to German-English. We can only go on the information we have.
That's one half of his family. Meh, I really don't care. It's a funny show that won a peabody award. Yanksox 13:38, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
It's my favorite show, hence why I am very stringent about it. Stan is also my favorite character, heh. As for it being only one-half of his family- correct. But Sharon, mauden name Sharon Kern, Kern is a mixed Brittania name as I described before. It wouldn't have any reason to be changed, neither would Marsh. Both names are easily pronouncable in English. :P
But it comes down to roots and name changes. It's VERY complicated. ALOT of Italians changed their names just so they could slide in. Like one of my least favorite Artists Dean Martin, and Nick Cage changed his name. But that was to prove he could make it on his own. Yanksox 16:01, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
TRue again, but we have to work with the information we have. What we have points to German-English. Until an episode is done to clarify his heritage, we can only go so far.
Oh, and Kenny has an older brother who is his biological sibling, so I'm taking that out.
I changed his age to 8. In 914 - Bloody Mary, he says "I'm 8!" I think we've learnt in another episode that he's 9, but this is the latest proof of age we have. UPDATE: OK, 8-9 is good.
- In A Very Crappy Christms, we learn that Stan has black hair and blue eyes which makes him black Irish. That's by no means concrete evidence, but it does further confuse the issue of his heritage. Tweeks Coffee 18:42, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
Wikipedia is not the place for speculation, per WP:V and WP:NOR. If someone can verify these claims, it would help, but as there appears to be no evidence (other than speculation), do not include such rumours in the page. Thank you. Atomic1609 18:27, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Grandfather being Italian
Please do not restore this category without a reference from one of the episodes or something. It was added by a user who added "Italian-Americans" to a bunch of fictional characters, including Kenny McCormick. Mad Jack 04:58, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
I had an English uncle who had black hair and blue eyes, so we can't really pin it down. To put him in any category is baseless.
[edit] Order Of Who's Oldest To Youngest Doesn't Make Sense
When I looked at the South Park calender and then say the articles of the four boys. it doesn't make sense how Cartman can be the 2nd oldest, Kenny be the 3rd oldest and Kyle being the youngest. I'm sure Stan is the oldest out of the boys. Remember all the boys are 9. I will use the years 1996, 1997, and 1998 as examples and take it as this year of 2006. Stan's birthday is October 19 so and he's the oldest so he would have to be born in 1996. Kenny's birthday is March 22 but his article says he's the 3rd oldest and Eric Cartman's article says his birthday is July 1st and he's the 2nd oldest. But if Kenny's the 3rd oldest that would make him born in 1998. Kyle's birthday is May 26 and if Cartman is the 2nd oldest and Kenny being the 3rd oldest that would make him born in 1998. If Kyle and Kenny are born in 1998 that would make it impossible for them to be 9. What it should be is Stan being the oldest born on October 19, 1996, Kenny being the 2nd oldest born on March 22, 1997, Kyle being the 3rd oldest born on May 26, 1997, and Cartman being the youngest born on July 1, 1997.
[edit] Information Of Who's Oldest To Youngest Out Of The Four Boys From The South Park Calender
I got this information from the South Park Calender.
Birthdays If you use the cutoff date of September 1 by which all kids have to be 8 to enter 3rd grade, or 9 to enter 4th grade, then the four boys turn 9 during 3rd grade, and 10 during 4th grade. Given their birthdays in 3rd grade, the boys turn nine in this order: Stan - October 19 Kenny - March 22 Kyle - May 26 Cartman - July 1 If Cartman's birthday is February 4 instead of July 1, the dates are Stan - October 19 Cartman - February 4 Kenny - March 22 Kyle - May 26 Stan is thus the oldest of the four boys. Whether Kyle or Cartman is the youngest depends on when you believe Cartman's birthday falls. Cartman's is the only birthday we've seen so far (except for Jesus' and Grandpa Marsh's).
From this information Stan is the only one that we really know what spot of who's oldest to youngest out of the four boys which Stan is the oldest and that we can put in his article. Cartman's birthday could either be February 4 or July 1 so Cartman is either the 2nd oldest or the youngest which we can put in his article. Kenny is either the 2nd oldest or the 3 oldest which we can put in his article. Kyle is either the 3rd oldest or the youngest which we can put in his article. I couldn't find a site that can prove whether Cartman's birthday is February 4 or July 1.
[edit] Stan Eats Meat
Stan eats Meat. Some might believe, if they blank out the last few minutes of Fun With Veal, that he is a vegan now. However, if you actually watch and listen, he makes fun of the idea. Also, in the Episode "Goobacks", Stan tries to order a burger. He also eats meat on many other occasions after "Fun With Veal".
[edit] Mass Murderer?
What puts him under the category of "mass murderers?" Who did he mass murder? -December 30, 2006
He and Cartman were responsible for the flooding of Beaverton:
"but we believe that the death toll may be in the hundreds of millions. Beaverton has only a population of about eight thousand, Tom, so this would be quite devastating."
"Tom, I am standing just outside of Chicago, where the panic of global warming has already caused countless deaths. Already we're reporting that the death toll here in Chicago is over 600 billion people"
THobern
- Uh, that was a joke. We don't really know if anyone at all died, it was a parody of news stories greatly exaggerating disasters, like Katrina. Tweeks Coffee 14:30, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
Plus, it would make him guilty of genocide, not mass murder.- Shane
[edit] Stan's Birthday
It is October 19th, not April 13th. Whoever is doing this needs to stop.-Shane —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 206.54.87.125 (talk) 08:52, 12 February 2007 (UTC).
[edit] Stan is 10
As of October 19th, 2006, Stan is 10. Stop saying he's 9.
- What exactly makes him 10? As far as I know they're still in fourth grade and time hasn't actually progressed since they were said to be 9. Tweeks Coffee 22:44, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
He is 10 because it's past October 19th, 2006, and he was born on October 19th, 1996.
- He's a fictional character. He's however old the writers say he is. CovenantD 02:03, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
- If he was born in 1996, then how was he 8 in 1996? If we went by real time, Stan would actually be 19 now. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tweeks Coffee 13:22, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
