Talk:St George Illawarra Dragons

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[edit] Stats

Obviously the St George and Illawarra clubs are part of SGI's history, but it's a new team. Statistics have started afresh and are quite separate, just as with the Tigers and N.Eagles. The next premiership will be their first, Barrett has only played 134 games not 179 for them etc. --Paul 10:43, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Yep agree. That's the way it's done in almost every stat/record book I've seen. Gotta keep 'em seperated. AlbinoMonkey ^(Talk) 13:38, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Despite this being the way most record books report statistics, I can assure you this is not the way the Club sees it, and the Club is trying to make the NRL see their point of view on ths. As far as St George Illawarra management are concerned, the next premiership will be the club's 16th

The basic reason behind this is that no club has discontinued their history to be a part of the Joint Venture, rather their history has been ongoing. To go on with the example of Barrett, Trent has not played for any other club than that which he started with.

Anyway, it's a tricky one, but I stand fully behind the Club's view that, while St George Illawarra has its own statistics, historical statistics of St George Dragons and Illawarra Steelers should be counted as part of this club's history. Gonzerelli 01:29, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Maybe, then, in the infobox it could show like Premierships: 0 (15/0) to indicate St.G-Ill's single, with (Dragons / Steelers) stats in the brackets. Then a note or section could be added to the article about the differing views on their stats - David Middleton and the NRL want it as a new entity, the club and a lot of fans (usu. St George) want them all to be added. AlbinoMonkey ^(Talk) 03:25, 25 February

2006 (UTC)

Nice suggestion AM, one I'll go with. :) Gonzerelli 03:40, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

I won't change it, but I don't agree. To apply this to the Tigers they've won 16 premierships too. Balmain 11, Wests 4, WT 1 .. don't think so. Furthermore they were premiers and runners up in the same year (1948). And if it's 15 titles for SGI (at present) what about actual games won and lost? StG and Ill. added together? Then some games will count as a loss and win. So in closing.. Eric Grothe, jr has no titles under his belt, not 0 (0/4) 'cause of his Dad's :) --Paul 06:51, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Financial situation

Just a quick note, is it true that both clubs were financially struggling before the merger? I was under the impression that St. George were the wealthy ones, and Illawarra needed the money. I mean, it was only earlier this year when the Steelers Club paid off their debt to St. George wasn't it? Nintenmo 13:38, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The dot...

Anyone notice the disappearing dot: St. ? The article title omits it, but it appears off and on in the text. Strangely also, even though logo clearly has it, the SGI website doesn't use it uniformly either.

To be honest, I hadn't paid that much attention to this (which is ironic since I was the person who was so pedantic about the removal of the dash from the name!). Very interesting now you point this out.

The logo, of course, has a dot. But by and large, the dot is not used. I guess it's a matter of convenience rather than rigidly sticking to a rule.

I don't feel the title of this article needs a period added, however if you feel the need to create a redirect page then go for it. (Then again, this may not be needed, as there have been no problems to date with creating links to this article...)

Gonzerelli 06:08, 21 November 2006 (UTC)